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I was wondering if some of the leftists on here can help me out?

How are conservatives Nazis while also being bashed for our support of Israel over Palestine?
How are we fascists yet want citizens to be able to defend themselves and people to have the right to freedom of speech?
How can we be xenophobic nationalists while also colluding with Russia and being a puppet to Russian interests?

And this isn't really a serious inquiry but just want to understand the mental gymnastics here.

How is it not racist when a black celebrity/politician attacks a white person but somehow it's racism when that white person defends themselves and throws an insult right back at them?

How is calling someone 'fake news' inciting violence but calling someone a Nazi, telling them to harass people in the streets and defending Antifa not inciting violence?

Is insulting Fox News also an attack on a free press? Didn't Obama do this?

And just for chuckles, were Hillary and Obama homophobes before 2012? And if so, why were they not hounded by the left?

How is Affirmative Action not racial discrimination?

I'm willing to be won over to the left if you can answer these questions. :sunglasses:
How are conservatives Nazis while also being bashed for our support of Israel over Palestine?
  • Not all conservatives are Nazis but all Nazis are conservatives. You're good with Jews just as long as they aren't in the US. You are bashed over your total and complete disregard of the Palestinian people and carte blanch acceptance of Israeli abuses thereof. The Israeli treatment is little different than that of the American Indians who were pushed aside and driven from their lands in the mid to late 1800s and into the 20th century. We made agreements and then ignored them. Israel has made agreements with the Palestinians and not kept those agreements. Israel seems to think that they can continue to annex land belonging to Palestinians and just push the people out. That is wrong on every level.
How are we fascists yet want citizens to be able to defend themselves and people to have the right to freedom of speech?
  • No, you only want people who agree with you to have free speech. Also reasonable gun control has zero to do with free speech. There are many nations who's citizens have the right to free speech AND have gun control.
How can we be xenophobic nationalists while also colluding with Russia and being a puppet to Russian interests?
  • Because you are too stupid to see what is going on. You're blinded to whatever the orange clown says and he says he's not a puppet but clearly is. You also somehow think that the two (xenophobic nationalist and Russian puppets) are mutually exclusive...they are not. What Russia wants most is a destabilized, divided US. What better way than to play to the insecurities of whites who are rather quickly becoming a pluralistic minority within the US.
How is it not racist when a black celebrity/politician attacks a white person but somehow it's racism when that white person defends themselves and throws an insult right back at them?
  • More times than not it is the racist undertones of what is said in that defense. Do you really need that spelled out for you?
How is calling someone 'fake news' inciting violence but calling someone a Nazi, telling them to harass people in the streets and defending Antifa not inciting violence?
  • Consistent attacks upon the free press comes from Chapter 1 of the Dictator's Handbook.
  • I've never heard or witnessed anyone defending Antifa. That said, if Nazis are drawing a line that people must be on one side or the other...it isn't a hard decision on which side to take. You claim to be such a big supporter of Israel...I wonder which side they would choose?

Is insulting Fox News also an attack on a free press? Didn't Obama do this?
  • Obama made occasional comments about Fox misrepresenting his positions and his upbringing. Most all Presidents have taken shots at specific stories in the press. Unlike presidents before him, Trump doesn’t criticize the press when he feels his policies have been misrepresented or maligned. Attacking the press is the central policy of his administration. In fact, it may the only one.

And just for chuckles, were Hillary and Obama homophobes before 2012? And if so, why were they not hounded by the left?
  • Yeah they were, they got over it. In 2009 Obama extended some, but not all benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees and began work to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act. But Obama still received criticism from the LGBT community for other things and not moving faster and further.

How is Affirmative Action not racial discrimination?
  • It is but it is also justifiable.
 
Andy Barr political ad showing Amy McGrath video’swhere she says she is a feminist, a progressive, voted for Obama, is against building the wall. Bill Bryant on WKYT claims Barr is “attacking” McGrath with this ad. WTF?!!! Anyone think this is an attack?

Showing her actual beliefs is an attack? Lol. Well, it should be an insult, I suppose.
 
Andy Barr political ad showing Amy McGrath video’swhere she says she is a feminist, a progressive, voted for Obama, is against building the wall. Bill Bryant on WKYT claims Barr is “attacking” McGrath with this ad. WTF?!!! Anyone think this is an attack?
Why the need to mention his opponent at all? Why not just talk about YOU and what YOUR plan is?

I have to give kudos to the GOP governor nominee who was the constant target of attack ads by his 3 other opponents. They said he gave money to "liberals" and was against Trump (gasp!). His response was...they can say whatever they want to say, I'm just going to talk about me. He won.
 
How are conservatives Nazis while also being bashed for our support of Israel over Palestine?
  • Not all conservatives are Nazis but all Nazis are conservatives. You're good with Jews just as long as they aren't in the US. You are bashed over your total and complete disregard of the Palestinian people and carte blanch acceptance of Israeli abuses thereof. The Israeli treatment is little different than that of the American Indians who were pushed aside and driven from their lands in the mid to late 1800s and into the 20th century. We made agreements and then ignored them. Israel has made agreements with the Palestinians and not kept those agreements. Israel seems to think that they can continue to annex land belonging to Palestinians and just push the people out. That is wrong on every level.
How are we fascists yet want citizens to be able to defend themselves and people to have the right to freedom of speech?
  • No, you only want people who agree with you to have free speech. Also reasonable gun control has zero to do with free speech. There are many nations who's citizens have the right to free speech AND have gun control.
How can we be xenophobic nationalists while also colluding with Russia and being a puppet to Russian interests?
  • Because you are too stupid to see what is going on. You're blinded to whatever the orange clown says and he says he's not a puppet but clearly is. You also somehow think that the two (xenophobic nationalist and Russian puppets) are mutually exclusive...they are not. What Russia wants most is a destabilized, divided US. What better way than to play to the insecurities of whites who are rather quickly becoming a pluralistic minority within the US.
How is it not racist when a black celebrity/politician attacks a white person but somehow it's racism when that white person defends themselves and throws an insult right back at them?
  • More times than not it is the racist undertones of what is said in that defense. Do you really need that spelled out for you?
How is calling someone 'fake news' inciting violence but calling someone a Nazi, telling them to harass people in the streets and defending Antifa not inciting violence?
  • Consistent attacks upon the free press comes from Chapter 1 of the Dictator's Handbook.
  • I've never heard or witnessed anyone defending Antifa. That said, if Nazis are drawing a line that people must be on one side or the other...it isn't a hard decision on which side to take. You claim to be such a big supporter of Israel...I wonder which side they would choose?

Is insulting Fox News also an attack on a free press? Didn't Obama do this?
  • Obama made occasional comments about Fox misrepresenting his positions and his upbringing. Most all Presidents have taken shots at specific stories in the press. Unlike presidents before him, Trump doesn’t criticize the press when he feels his policies have been misrepresented or maligned. Attacking the press is the central policy of his administration. In fact, it may the only one.

And just for chuckles, were Hillary and Obama homophobes before 2012? And if so, why were they not hounded by the left?
  • Yeah they were, they got over it. In 2009 Obama extended some, but not all benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees and began work to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act. But Obama still received criticism from the LGBT community for other things and not moving faster and further.

How is Affirmative Action not racial discrimination?
  • It is but it is also justifiable.

jeez f***ing kidding me. all Nazi's are conservatives. ok bud.

just pay Brady and leave this board. You make everyone dumber with every bit of dribble you type.
 
How are conservatives Nazis while also being bashed for our support of Israel over Palestine?
  • Not all conservatives are Nazis but all Nazis are conservatives. You're good with Jews just as long as they aren't in the US. You are bashed over your total and complete disregard of the Palestinian people and carte blanch acceptance of Israeli abuses thereof. The Israeli treatment is little different than that of the American Indians who were pushed aside and driven from their lands in the mid to late 1800s and into the 20th century. We made agreements and then ignored them. Israel has made agreements with the Palestinians and not kept those agreements. Israel seems to think that they can continue to annex land belonging to Palestinians and just push the people out. That is wrong on every level.
How are we fascists yet want citizens to be able to defend themselves and people to have the right to freedom of speech?
  • No, you only want people who agree with you to have free speech. Also reasonable gun control has zero to do with free speech. There are many nations who's citizens have the right to free speech AND have gun control.
How can we be xenophobic nationalists while also colluding with Russia and being a puppet to Russian interests?
  • Because you are too stupid to see what is going on. You're blinded to whatever the orange clown says and he says he's not a puppet but clearly is. You also somehow think that the two (xenophobic nationalist and Russian puppets) are mutually exclusive...they are not. What Russia wants most is a destabilized, divided US. What better way than to play to the insecurities of whites who are rather quickly becoming a pluralistic minority within the US.
How is it not racist when a black celebrity/politician attacks a white person but somehow it's racism when that white person defends themselves and throws an insult right back at them?
  • More times than not it is the racist undertones of what is said in that defense. Do you really need that spelled out for you?
How is calling someone 'fake news' inciting violence but calling someone a Nazi, telling them to harass people in the streets and defending Antifa not inciting violence?
  • Consistent attacks upon the free press comes from Chapter 1 of the Dictator's Handbook.
  • I've never heard or witnessed anyone defending Antifa. That said, if Nazis are drawing a line that people must be on one side or the other...it isn't a hard decision on which side to take. You claim to be such a big supporter of Israel...I wonder which side they would choose?

Is insulting Fox News also an attack on a free press? Didn't Obama do this?
  • Obama made occasional comments about Fox misrepresenting his positions and his upbringing. Most all Presidents have taken shots at specific stories in the press. Unlike presidents before him, Trump doesn’t criticize the press when he feels his policies have been misrepresented or maligned. Attacking the press is the central policy of his administration. In fact, it may the only one.

And just for chuckles, were Hillary and Obama homophobes before 2012? And if so, why were they not hounded by the left?
  • Yeah they were, they got over it. In 2009 Obama extended some, but not all benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees and began work to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act. But Obama still received criticism from the LGBT community for other things and not moving faster and further.

How is Affirmative Action not racial discrimination?
  • It is but it is also justifiable.
False.
 
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Idiots like Fuzz and others here spout Russia and Nazi's all the time. They also have no clue whatsoever what Facism actually is, at all. Their lack of self awareness and knowledge of history, ignorance of history, ignorance in general is why the party they worship is using the very same tools Marxists and Nazi's used to gain control of power. They are the Nazi's. Yes, you @fuzz77, and your cohorts are literally operating and blindly following a growing facists/communists movement. You are the willing followers and enablers. The thing is, while you have a lot of genders and shit, we own more guns than communism and Nazi's have death totals. So your ignorance is humorous at best.
 
Andy Barr political ad showing Amy McGrath video’swhere she says she is a feminist, a progressive, voted for Obama, is against building the wall. Bill Bryant on WKYT claims Barr is “attacking” McGrath with this ad. WTF?!!! Anyone think this is an attack?

Yes. But a fair one. If this is too much, then she should just drop out of the race. If you don't like people showing what you said - you shouldn't have said it
 
Why the need to mention his opponent at all? Why not just talk about YOU and what YOUR plan is?.
Fuzz, little Ms Innocent McGrath ran the following ad in May 2018 where she actually inferred that Barr was Mitch’s little bitch. Barr’s ad only showed what she actually said. Won’t you agree that there’s a big difference?
 
The Left in this country are using the exact same platform as the Nazis did to rise to power.
Same tactics, harass and beat people with opposing views. Demonize and dehumanize them, propaganda, silencing opponents, all in the name of the state gaining total say.

Fuzz, take a step back and look at what the democrat party has embraced in the last 18 months.
 
Why the need to mention his opponent at all? Why not just talk about YOU and what YOUR plan is?


So you guys voted for Obama based on what he said, paid no attention to what he did.

Don't give a shit about what Trump does, but hang on every word he says.

You put that much faith in words, and you're wondering why it's important to point out when a candidate is lying, hypocritical or totally full of shit.

No response is required. We know you really don't give a shit and will go for the D no matter what.
 
  • More times than not it is the racist undertones of what is said in that defense. Do you really need that spelled out for you?
I hear this almost every time someone screams racism these days. What is a racist undertone? Who determines this? Lebron questioning the intelligence of Trump voters = not racist. Trump questioning Lebron and Don Lemon's intelligence = racist. Is there an undertone committee somewhere? Where do I sign up for that?
 
Acceptance into school, hiring, promotion, etc should never be about race. Period. End of story.

And anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

“Man, that one guy is constantly late, leaves early and when he does show up he doesn’t do his job.”

“Yeah... but at least we’re diverse.”

“Bill, we’re paramedics... people are literally dying because of this guy.”

“Yeah... but at least we know we aren’t racist.”
 
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Only pasted enough to give you the gist because it's a tad long, but it's well worth clicking the link and reading the rest.

Evidence that directly connects the DOJ and proves that Ohr was conspiring with Steele as a go between from the Clinton campaign to the FBI after Steele was fired.

How a senior DOJ official helped Dem researchers on Trump-Russia case

Fusion GPS's work and its involvement with several FBI officials have been well reported.

But a close review of these new documents shows just how closely Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, who reported to Obama-era Deputy AG Sally Yates, maintained contact with Fusion — and, in particular, its primary source, former British spy Christopher Steele — before, during and after the election.

Ohr’s own notes, emails and text messages show he communicated extensively with Steele and with Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson. Those documents have been turned over in recent weeks to investigative bodies in Congress and the DOJ, but not reviewed outside the investigative ranks until now.

They show Ohr had contact with Steele in the days just before the FBI opened its Trump-Russia probe in summer 2016, and then engaged Steele as a “confidential human source” (CHS) assisting in that probe.

They also confirm that Ohr later became a critical conduit of continuing information from Steele after the FBI ended the Brit's role as an informant.

Steele's FBI relationship had been terminated about three months earlier. The bureau concluded on Nov. 1, 2016, that he leaked information to the news media and was “not suitable for use” as a confidential source, memos show.

The FBI specifically instructed Steele that he could no longer “operate to obtain any intelligence whatsoever on behalf of the FBI,” those memos show.

Yet, Steele asked Ohr in the Jan. 31 text exchange if he could continue to help feed information to the FBI: “Just want to check you are OK, still in the situ and able to help locally as discussed, along with your Bureau colleagues.”

“I’m still here and able to help as discussed,” Ohr texted back. “I’ll let you know if that changes.”

Steele replied, “If you end up out though, I really need another (bureau?) contact point/number who is briefed. We can’t allow our guy to be forced to go back home. It would be disastrous.” Investigators are trying to determine who Steele was referring to.
 
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