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75%? Where did you get that number. It seems way too high considering the past 20 or so years.Ah, OK, we've graduated to bashing the media for things they may or may not do.
Damn liberal media
Don't get me wrong, the for-profit, sensationaliat media machine sucks, but about 75% of the complaints towards "it" is baseless and quite comical
Most will be taken out by the initial blast and heat. The other 5-7% go from the fallout.
I find this an interesting question for several reasons, not the least of which is that when voters ask questions about the comparative morals of persons seeking high political office, rarely (practically never) is it about those who represent the progressive ticket of blanket tolerance. The Clintons have zero morals, yet it would be an excellent question: what is the difference in morals between Hillary and Bernie?
As for the question applied to Trump and Rubio a good response could be this: is the better question about values? And: what is it precisely that Rubio values the most? From that answer, I personally believe, comes Rubio's moral code. We have heard so much about his father's struggles and Rubio's appreciation of individual effort. Then the question, what is it that Trump values the most? Does that answer provide a glimpse into Trump's moral code? I'm not so sure. In summary, I would say the question you ask is very good, difficult to put a finger on, and perhaps a valid basis for individual selection.
I too have thought that the best - and only winning - ticket on the right is Rubio+Kasich. It checks all the boxes, especially against a weakened Clinton (who's a bad retail campaigner anyway). But now I'm not sure. It's very possible those Dems constantly bellowing about a divided Republican Party are right for once: it seems very possible to me that if somehow Rubio or Kasich recovers to get the nomination (legitimately, I mean), then the Trump supporters may just stay home. If Trump gets the nod, people will stay home in droves (why I think he can't win); and if someone else gets the nomination, droves of Trumpers stay home. Feels like there should be an exclamation point somewhere in that.....
Trump literally wants to change the 1st amendment
Kasich wants to invade Syria, use ground troops to attack ISIS, is open to attacking North Korea preemptively/illegally, he also has no real small government bonafides
Hilldawg is the beast incarnate
Sanders is a kook masquerading as a visionary
Rationalizing voting for any is a net negative for the country imo
Kasich wants to invade Syria, use ground troops to attack ISIS, is open to attacking North Korea preemptively/illegally, he also has no real small government bonafides
Hilldawg is the beast incarnate
Sanders is a kook masquerading as a visionary
Rationalizing voting for any is a net negative for the country imo
I'm coming to terms that Hillary is going to be president because this country is filled with retards and conservatives have destroyed themselves. Trump is either going to be the worst thing or the best thing to happen to the Republican party and it's looking like we're effed now.
- Cannot overcome academia and media brainwashing
- Cannot overcome Republican voters staying at home because they don't like Trump and because he's not Christian enough
- Cannot overcome Latinos voting
We effed ourselves.
The left has acquired so many voting blocks all while Republicans are doing nothing but destroying their own candidates and bashing the guy who is most likely to get the nominee.
- Cannot overcome academia and media brainwashing
- Cannot overcome Republican voters staying at home because they don't like Trump and because he's not Christian enough
- Cannot overcome Latinos voting
We effed ourselves.
The left has acquired so many voting blocks all while Republicans are doing nothing but destroying their own candidates and bashing the guy who is most likely to get the nominee.
Sure, The Wrap and The Source count as media, the same way the Summit League and the Northeast Assoc count as D1 conferences. No one cares.
The New York Daily News states : "It remained unclear — even to people who purportedly witnessed their presence — whether the men were actual Trump backers or were merely drawing attention to the bigoted rhetoric that the bombastic billionaire has employed on the stump"
So much bias!
This is rich coming from the guy running with the story that these were BLM activists because of the headline on Front Page Matters that provided zero evidence so support the claim.
In reality, they were two white males according to the Clark County PS PD:
"Regardless, several people used the photos as proof that not only were these alleged Klansmen black, but that they were members of the Black Lives Matter movement.
However, there was no validity to the theories that the two people dressed in Klan outfits were black or (by extension) members of Black Lives Matter. We spoke to Capt. Ken Young of the Clark County Public Schools Police Department on 25 February 2016. He confirmed to us that the two individuals were white males, and that they left the school as soon as police arrived and told them that they had to go.
"Photos" that were circulating of one of the purported black men in the KKK outfit were actually stills or screenshots from a popular Dave Chappelle skit called "Blind Supremacy"
The thing is, openly racist people DO support Trump, including but not limited to David Duke and Richard Spencer.
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The same way BLM supports Bernie since we're using that logic.
I did about five seconds of google searches that used headlines of some variation of "KKK Trump supporters," which is misleading.
I also used an example of a politician running with it and let's cut the BS. You know damn-well that the media is overwhelmingly biased in favor of Democrats and Democratic Party agendas.
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Yes, there was a cartoon once that actually
I guess those guys painted there hands brown to fool everyone.
Using what logic? Yes, some BLM supporters back Bernie. That's not logic, that's just fact.
Woe be Bernie if impersonators of Black Lives Matter show up at a Bernie rally.
Are you comparing the KKK with Black Lives Matter?
So you did about the same amount of research as a Nevada state congressperson and The Wrap blog. You sprinted with and circulated the unsubstantiated headline that those Klan impersonators were members of BLM. Now, by your assertion, you too are in the "majority of idiots [that] just view a headline, believe it and then move on and repeat that story."
The media is also out to abort your children, ruin freedom, and keep the Big Bang Theory on the air. It's all a vast conspiracy to take the Ten Commandments out of the state house. You're not safe, and neither is your religion.
Record number of voters turning out for Georgia Primary. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out on Super Tuesday.
In the beginning, anyway, no one took Trump seriously. Bush looked around and thought Rubio was the one he had to worry about. Mystifying why they couldn't after a reasonable time understand how the landscape was changing and adjust course. Viewed that way, we're all likely better off he didn't win - whatever his qualifications. Someone that slow and inflexible isn't likely to perform well in the most pressure packed job on the planet.....
You're a lost cause and your exaggeration in a condescending tone is noted and laughable. I do enjoy your stereotype. That's appreciated. I can only assume you're a smug douchebag who is enamored at the sound of his own voice and the smell of his own farts.
I do enjoy your downplaying of propaganda as if that has not historically been used to brainwash an entire group of weak-minded retards. Only an arrogant fool would claim your group has not been in control of academia, media and Hollywood for quite some time and have done everything to suppress any alternative views being allowed.
Hell, I've shown a dozen videos of what brainwashed lunatics on college campuses do any time someone opposes liberal ideology.
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I like to post here in this thread because a lot of you guys have been watching politics as closely as I have, but you still often disappoint me with takes that show you are not paying close enough attention to the landscape.. to the big picture... of what is going on.
Trump is immune to Republicans staying home. He doesn't need them. He will take enough democrats and draw in enough new people to defeat Hillary Clinton. Trump is a tidal wave building. If his health is good enough to stand up to the long campaign (and I am not sure it is because I am hearing whispering campaign that claims Trump has a serious health problem that is not being disclosed.. a la diabetes) then he has a chance to draw a new campaign map.
Democrats watched Barack Obama fill his cabinet with Goldman Sachs employees and Wall Street fly high while letting all the crooks off scott-free. Hillary is WIDE OPEN to a populist to sweep the rust belt from her. If Trump gets to her left and wins over the blue collar workers like I think he has an excellent chance of doing then he rolls over her in the general by adding the rust belt to a Southern sweep.
Trump is immune to Republicans staying home. He doesn't need them. He will take enough democrats and draw in enough new people to defeat Hillary Clinton. Trump is a tidal wave building. If his health is good enough to stand up to the long campaign (and I am not sure it is because I am hearing whispering campaign that claims Trump has a serious health problem that is not being disclosed.. a la diabetes) then he has a chance to draw a new campaign map.
Democrats watched Barack Obama fill his cabinet with Goldman Sachs employees and Wall Street fly high while letting all the crooks off scott-free. Hillary is WIDE OPEN to a populist to sweep the rust belt from her. If Trump gets to her left and wins over the blue collar workers like I think he has an excellent chance of doing then he rolls over her in the general by adding the rust belt to a Southern sweep.
The whole election is Ohio, Florida, and Michigan with a side of Pennsylvania thrown in. Trump has shown incredible strength in those states. I think he is unbeatable in Florida right now. If he adds Kasich and thus Ohio, then he is one state away from virtually being guaranteed a victory. Michigan, Pennsylvania, or even say Colorado to the typical Republican states and Trump is the next President.
If Kasich brings Ohio and Michigan than this race is already over. You folks need to learn the electoral map so you can understand how easily this thing swings if the Democrats lose the rust belt the election is over before it starts.
I brought Colorado into the discussion because if the Democrats lose Florida and Ohio then they have to win Colorado or it is over.
If Kasich brings Ohio and Michigan than this race is already over. You folks need to learn the electoral map so you can understand how easily this thing swings if the Democrats lose the rust belt the election is over before it starts.
I brought Colorado into the discussion because if the Democrats lose Florida and Ohio then they have to win Colorado or it is over.
Watching Hillary give her acceptance speech right now for winning SC. When I see Hillary I see my 3rd grade math teacher. She is such a cold harsh sounding woman. Like being scolded by a nun. She is absolutely a very beatable candidate because she is fundamentally unlikable not to mention untrustworthy. Her blatant appeals to race is going to sneak up and bite her in the ass in the rust belt. That shit doesn't play there and mark my words, the rust belt will deliver this election to Donald Trump. I already see it. Clear as day.
I crack up when I see Mojo posting about Trumps negatives making it impossible for him to be President... wait till he gets a load of Hillary's negatives. When Trump is lined up next to Hillary he will seem like The Pope compared to her sterile unlikability. She always looks like she's sternly lecturing you. Like you were visiting your aunt and stayed out too late and she's slapping your earns and warning you that she's going to let your mom know what you've been up to.
Every man that looks at Hillary in the general election will see their Mother-in-law. Game over.
I crack up when I see Mojo posting about Trumps negatives making it impossible for him to be President... wait till he gets a load of Hillary's negatives. When Trump is lined up next to Hillary he will seem like The Pope compared to her sterile unlikability. She always looks like she's sternly lecturing you. Like you were visiting your aunt and stayed out too late and she's slapping your earns and warning you that she's going to let your mom know what you've been up to.
Every man that looks at Hillary in the general election will see their Mother-in-law. Game over.
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I don't disagree with anything you say about Hilary and why she's unlikable. My fear though is the blind loyalty liberals have. They simply don't care about the character of who they are voting for as long as their is a D beside their name. I'll be happy if you are right though.
It all comes down to 2 things with Hildabeast.
1. Not enough dems are enamored with her to show up no matter what because of her unlikability as stated above.
2. Reps are so anti-hillary that they would show up in droves to vote for the corpse of Richard Nixon in the general if it meant keeping her out of office.
1. Not enough dems are enamored with her to show up no matter what because of her unlikability as stated above.
2. Reps are so anti-hillary that they would show up in droves to vote for the corpse of Richard Nixon in the general if it meant keeping her out of office.
I like your post. And hope like all loving heck you're right. But perhaps we (maybe I) have a different understanding of what the "rust belt" is. For starters, all of Chicago, Milwaukee, and Gary, Indiana are included in that region. And probably every single bit of Ohio (as the only state that is probably completely encompassed by it's arbitrary borders - which would make your prediction particularly useful for Reps from the obvious historical standard always in play. Then east into Pennsylvania is considered a rust belt / Appalachia / coal / industrial mix, but not Philly. The southern half of Michigan. Possibly south into Illinois spreading across to St. Louis.
I'm not challenging you, but I'm anxious to believe - is it really possible that Hillary is going to have serious voter problems in the urban areas included? These are simply dem stompin' grounds.
What about Virginia? I personally refuse to believe the last set of polling data I saw on Real Clear. It was ridiculous. This is my personal gut: the dems will not win it any bigger than in '12, which was less than 4% margin. Meaning, if 2% vote the other way it goes the other way.
I used to work in Northern VA contracting off/on back in the 90s. I know the Clintons were very popular. Maybe I'm just refusing to believe that polish hasn't worn off. I hate that tart.
Here's a clickable map so you can play around with the results. Obama barely won in Florida in 2012, Trump will win there easily. Flip Ohio and Michigan and things get tough if not impossible for Hillary.
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/calculator/
She is going to be incredibly vulnerable in Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania for race pandering as that drives off blue collar workers in those states frankly because they are hard working people and hate the race card because they see affirmative action and whining about race issues as a cop-out.
Trump is going to be very strong with blue collar workers. When he tacks to the center in the general he will actually be left of Hillary on quite a few issues but IMO he will mercilessly pound her black support for two reason: to drive down turnout/enthusiasm for Hillary and also and perhaps most importantly to piss off white blue collar workers that have not had such a wonderful time under Barack Obama and don't like the way Clinton is pandering to the Trayvon Martin crowd. I imagine a whole lot of police departments around the country listed to her BLATANTLY play the race card today in her acceptance speech. That is going to cost her as Trump will get right in there between her and the police and fan the hell out of that flame. Just wait and see if he doesn't.
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/calculator/
She is going to be incredibly vulnerable in Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania for race pandering as that drives off blue collar workers in those states frankly because they are hard working people and hate the race card because they see affirmative action and whining about race issues as a cop-out.
Trump is going to be very strong with blue collar workers. When he tacks to the center in the general he will actually be left of Hillary on quite a few issues but IMO he will mercilessly pound her black support for two reason: to drive down turnout/enthusiasm for Hillary and also and perhaps most importantly to piss off white blue collar workers that have not had such a wonderful time under Barack Obama and don't like the way Clinton is pandering to the Trayvon Martin crowd. I imagine a whole lot of police departments around the country listed to her BLATANTLY play the race card today in her acceptance speech. That is going to cost her as Trump will get right in there between her and the police and fan the hell out of that flame. Just wait and see if he doesn't.
Yes, this is completely true...the blue collar vote is going to fall in love with Trump and his constantly using illegals & non-union workers to build his mega-resorts and buildings. Yeah, Hillary and the Dems are going to play it just like the RNC and do no attacking of Trump regarding his past actions.
I am sure if Trumps goes further left of Hillary on issues that is going to further convince evangelicals and the patriotic tea party folks to flock to the polling booths.
I am sure when Hillary decides to select a Juan Castro or maybe even an Elizabeth Warren (far fetched at the moment, but she is still in play) for VP, that is just going cause most Dems to just sit it out.
Maybe Obama nominates another minority to the Supreme court in the process, only to further suppress the turnout. I mean, the optics of a minority standing in front of McConnell's office is going to be disastrous for turnout. The liberal media isn't going to fall for that tactic.
Yup...all wishful thinking on my end. It's over. I thank you for preparing me for the inevitable that is to be come November.
And as I said when Scalia died...Obama doesn't need to have a confirmed Supreme Court Justice to be considered a winner for this event. It's only going to get better and better for Obama in regards to cases in the appeals court and those in front of the Supreme Court.
Justice Scalia’s Death Prompts Dow Chemical to Settle Lawsuit
Wanna guess how appeals court ruled on this particular case?
Justice Scalia’s Death Prompts Dow Chemical to Settle Lawsuit
Wanna guess how appeals court ruled on this particular case?
This is absolutely true. Nation be damned, they will continue to vote democrat because of their hatred for the right and their need for bigger government.
Unfortunately, American voters have demonstrated they can or will no longer elect candidates that will act in the best interests of this country. IMO, whoever is elected will ultimately be the worst possible candidate.
Heisman, when you say "Twitter ran with it" you do realize there is nobody in an office somewhere deciding what appears and does not appear on Twitter? Anybody can post to Twitter and it is only seen by those who follow that person. In other words...Twitter is not "the media", it's anyone and everyone who uses the app...it could even be you.
I wonder how many people including you know that the entire south was Democratic up through 1960? With the Civil Rights Act of 1964 the South did a 180. After supporting the election of Kennedy it was the only region that supported Goldwater in one of the biggest landslides in election history It was considered the "Solid South" for Democrats. The Northeast was solidly Republican...hell, Maine and Vermont were the only two states than never voted for FDR. What is the South today? What is the KKK today? Is David Duke a Republican or Democrat? I've seen you throw this out before and I'm trying to understand its relevance to today.
Heisman, anybody can go out and record 100 interviews of people and then edit it down to pick out the complete idiots in the crowd. Jimmy Kimmel does it all the time for laughs. A video proves nothing except what happened on that video...nothing more. If you, the video maker are trying to prove a point you will edit out any and all things that don't confirm what it is you are trying to prove.You're a lost cause and your exaggeration in a condescending tone is noted and laughable. I do enjoy your stereotype. That's appreciated. I can only assume you're a smug douchebag who is enamored at the sound of his own voice and the smell of his own farts.
I do enjoy your downplaying of propaganda as if that has not historically been used to brainwash an entire group of weak-minded retards. Only an arrogant fool would claim your group has not been in control of academia, media and Hollywood for quite some time and have done everything to suppress any alternative views being allowed.
Hell, I've shown a dozen videos of what brainwashed lunatics on college campuses do any time someone opposes liberal ideology.
You may fool the other idiots in the crowd but to those with brains you prove yourself just to be another one of the idiots.
There are a lot more idiots out there then you realize and just as many if not more on the democrats side than republicans. The fact that you missed this is proof enough.
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Hard to disagree with anything youre saying. Pretty good analysis. I think Hillary will be tough in the south, because Bill was so popular there, but if Trump can shut her out there; he may well win this thing.
1) This is an under discussed fact. Liberals will come out and vote for whomever their nominee might be. Doesnt matter how awful they are. Not only will they show up, theyll bus every possible voter to the polls and have them vote Dem too. Their grass roots dedication/brainwashing is incredible.
2) Is absolutely true. There will be non dems that will come out in droves to vote against Hillary. Thats why we're seeing record turnout in the primaries, imo. People are determined to not have another criminal Clinton in the WH.
Negative attacks dont work against Trump, because he isnt ashamed of anything hes done. That was incredibly obvious in the first debate when the GOP brought up what they thought would be a death blow - his donations to the Clintons. His answer astounded everyone, and really should have been the first sign he was a formidable candidate.
On the other hand, Hillary hasnt faced anyone willing to really drag her through the mud. Its all been friendly sparring up this point. Bernie even took up for her on the email situation. She may win, but Trump will make her earn every vote. Every perceived Clinton skeleton will be dragged out of the closet. Itll be vicious.
While true. BLM and other liberal groups certainly launch twitter campaigns all the time. Over the weekend was the #nevertrumpbecause or something. It was mainly centered around this obviously staged, fake KKK picture. Then the followed up Trumps response of "hed have to look into it" by a mischaracterization of him saying hed have to look into the KKK before he decides to denounce them. I see people still tweeting about both this morning.
^^^ and conservative groups don't launch twitter campaigns? Facebook campaigns???
Twitter is a tool that anyone can use. Who uses it is up to the people who decide to do so.
If you don't see the same things coming from the right then you either don't have many conservative friends or follow conservatives on Twitter. My timeline is filled with that crap from the left and right.
Twitter is a tool that anyone can use. Who uses it is up to the people who decide to do so.
If you don't see the same things coming from the right then you either don't have many conservative friends or follow conservatives on Twitter. My timeline is filled with that crap from the left and right.
They absolutely do. I didnt say they didnt. You were the one who acted as if Twitter was some completely random tool that noone can harness under any circumstances.
No, that was actually the point I was making. I pretty much said that anyone and everyone used it.
If Trump can do it without calling her fat, old, and ugly (which is a stretch, I know), he can be the one politician to successfully light her up light the holiday tree of evil she really is. She'd run circles around Rubio and Cruz....she and their team have been wrecking fools since those two were in their jammies.
Will be interesting.
Will be interesting.
Which I believe is proving Heisman's point. The masses(you know everyone on Twitter) ran with it ie doesn't have to be some liberal media figures anymore.
Which was the point that a lot more people run toward the race baiting one way, but not the other.
Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe there isn't a side I'm trying like hell to defend.
Which was the point that a lot more people run toward the race baiting one way, but not the other.
Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe there isn't a side I'm trying like hell to defend.
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