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I’d like to see what’s defined as left because the Dem Party is pretty radical right now-‘open borders, globalism, big gov’t, refusing to follow the law, obsessed with identity politics, pro Islam, hates whites, censors speech, against the 2A, obsessed with transgender BS, socialism, entitlements etc.
Trump is nothing close to that and neither is the base. We are super against the influx in third world immigration, which the left uses to get votes at taxpayer’s expense. We enjoy the middle class getting some help instead of the constant focus of food stamps and welfare for the ones who love handouts, we enjoy that the president doesn’t seek to disarm us while the DNC wouldn’t hesitate.
Basically, GOP have been spineless bastards in aiding the left’s destruction of the U.S. We have a guy who isn’t owned by donors and make no mistake, Trump is president because of his stance on immigration. He was the only one who had the balls to say it. All of the other GOP candidates were convinced they had to give in and try to convince Hispanics to vote GOP (will never happen).
So no, he’s certainly not similar to the left in that sense at all. Is he okay with gay marriage and not hardcore Christian? Yes and that’s fine because we honestly don’t give a shit. That is not our top concern. We wanted a fighter, not some guy who prayed and wasted time talking about gay marriage.
The Dem Party used to pretend to be for the working man and then became radical and it got amped up during Obama. There used to be shared values- pro America, patriotism, an acceptable sense of morality and that shit is long gone from the left.
John, you fake ass Canadian troll, "conservative" is just a word, and "conservatives" are generally not Trumpers. Just like "liberal" is just a word, and "liberals" are generally not Trumpers.
Americans are for Trump. Trump is for America.
Not long ago white ass "conservatives" were jacking off over Obama, the progressive savior of America, ffs.
Trump finally spoke to real Americans and brought them out to the polls. He is not a conservative or liberal.
Americans are for Trump. Trump is for America.
Not long ago white ass "conservatives" were jacking off over Obama, the progressive savior of America, ffs.
Trump finally spoke to real Americans and brought them out to the polls. He is not a conservative or liberal.
It’s a shame the radical fringes of both parties are such boogeymen to the other side. 80% of us are pretty much the same - we just want to live as we see fit and have a chance to be successful.
Yeah, he really brought them out. Less than half cared enough to even bother voting.
You guys enjoy your echo chamber. I’m playing 72 holes this weekend starting in an hour. See you Monday.
Had to search this one out and give it a read. Some good stuff.
Chozick writes that the Clinton campaign, which she covered from the beginning, had reacted furiously to the prospect of a Joe Biden run, as floated first in an August 2015 Maureen Dowd Times column and then in a reported story by Chozick. In the book, she writes that “Biden had confided (off the record) to the White House press corps that he wanted to run, but he added something like ‘You guys don’t understand these people. The Clintons will try to destroy me.’”
Throughout the book, Chozick refers to her fellow journalists in the small pool that flew on the campaign plane as “Travelers,” while referring to many Clinton staffers collectively as “The Guys.”
Robby thought Rubio would be the nominee. Podesta was bullish on Kasich. Bill and Hillary, still stuck in the 1990s, feared the Bush surname most of all.”
“A week earlier, Hillary cut off Joel and the pollster John Anzalone, as they walked her through the almost daily reminder that half the country disliked her,” Chozick writes. “You know, I am getting pretty tired of hearing about how nobody likes me,” she said.
“‘Oh, what’s the point? They’re never going to like me,’ Hillary told this friend.”
“After the convention, donors asked Brooklyn what they planned to do to pull Hillary’s trust numbers out of the toilet. The answer was always the same: nothing. Podesta would explain ‘I remember no one trusted Bill Clinton and he won twice.’”
All that seems to lead into the damaging video of Clinton calling half of Trump supporters a “basket of deplorables,” at a New York fundraiser in September 2016.
That was no slip of the tongue, since “Hillary always broke down Trump supporters into three baskets,” Chozick writes.
“The Deplorables always got a laugh, over living-room chats in the Hamptons, at dinner parties under the stars on Martha’s Vineyard, over passed hors d’oeuvres in Beverly Hills, and during sunset cocktails in Silicon Valley,” Chozick continues.
“‘I really messed up,’ [Clinton] told aides that night,” Chozick writes of the evening when the candidate’s Deplorables shtick went public.
“Of all the Brooklyn aides, Jen Palmieri had the most pleasant bedside manner,” Chozick writes. “That made her the designated deliverer of bad news to Hillary. But not this time. She told Robby there was no way she was going to tell Hillary she couldn’t win. That’s when Robby, drained and deflated, watching the results with his team in a room down the hall from Hillary’s suite, labored into the hallway of the Peninsula to break the news. Hillary didn’t seem all that surprised. ‘I knew it. I knew this would happen to me….’ Hillary said, now within a couple of inches of his face. ‘They were never going to let me be president.’”
When all was said and done, according to Chozick’s book, the somewhat acrimonious relationship between the Clinton campaign and The New York Times continued, even after the campaign ended:
“After the election, Bill would spread a more absurd Timesconspiracy: The publisher had struck a deal with Trump that we’d destroy Hillary on her emails to help him get elected, if he kept driving traffic and boosting the company’s stock price.”
Actually, the military took big hits during the Obama Administration. The military brass were very concerned about the inability at the time to fight two wars at the same time (I worked for the Pentagon at the time) due to the massive budget cuts. Not advocating for full-fledged isolation and I never said I don't want them anywhere as mentioned above, just pointing out the military's job is not for nation-building, whether it be for self-governance or infrastructure, 3'rd world shitholes (see Iraq).
My problem with the inept stupid Republican leadership in Congress is that they don't see border security as part of national security, border security got the short end of the stick in the most recent omnibus bill. Trump should have vetoed that bill, but was talked out of it by the generals.
I’d comment more but I think several already summed it up. For me personally, Trump came off as a human. Not a political figure head. And he wasn’t knee deep in Washington, meaning he hasn’t been bought and paid for by anyone.
Also Hillary’s vision (and most left political figures) of America was to make America the Western Hemisphere version of Europe with an emphasis on victimhood, racism and sexism. I’m all for immmgration, equality, etc. but letting anyone from anywhere in at anytime is down right stupid.
There were still record numbers of certain groups of voters. Also grown men and women, well into middle age, who voted for the very first time ever. Just because there was lack of enthusiasm on the Democrat side for Hillary, doesn't mean it was the same on the other side. Trump turned out his voters.
Of course, it is filed in lib friendly New York. Just a stunt to keep the Russian/Trump conspiracy narrative alive as the Mueller investigation is winding down with regard to Russia.
I'd like to see a comparison in the "radical" sides in what could possibly the twin of the radical left. You downplay this often. Radicalism which has become the norm for the left, is celebrated and promoted. You hate the president or you're critical of conservatives, oh, here you become an instant celebrity, i.e. gay Olympic skater, David Hogg, etc. If you're a conservative, you're destroyed on a daily basis through the left's giant stranglehold on media and social media. It's to the point that even publicly expressing support for Trump makes you a target for either physical assault, vandalism, labeling you a "Nazi" and "racist" and you're silenced on college campuses and on social media. We have tons of Democrats who consistently hope for death of Republicans, post threats to Dana Loesch, Trump, etc, even had Dems mocking a Parkland father whose daughter died. Why? Because he wore a Trump shirt.
Radicalism is widely celebrated and normalized on the left, collectively. Media, academia, Hollywood, they're all in on the collective groupthink. They're backing corrupt agencies and colluding with them in propaganda. I mean, what self respecting journalist partners with corrupt FBI instead of holding them accountable? We have states not even following the law, telling people not to cooperate with ICE, constantly calling for gun control, having marches, etc.
WHERE THE HELL IS THAT ON THE RIGHT? Nowhere. They're bashed daily. And these are the people who Dems couldn't give a shit about because they're "flyover country" and the majority of whites will not vote for them, which is why they are in an all out propaganda war with race and hellbent on importing from the third world. Show me conservatives who are burning the flag, wanting no borders and side with other nations over their own?
So no, I do not believe 80 percent of us are alike.
LOL. Without fail, Dems exposed as being corrupt pieces of shit so they try to hijack the news cycle and come up with this ridiculousness for their base. Just more theatrics.
They do this shit all the time. Mueller leaks were always right after negative press toward Dems came out.
This is also like the Adam Schiff freaking out over the memo findings and then coming out with their own.
Constant theatrics and constant help from their media friends
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imo trump is more conservative than any "republican" in recent memory. Plus they aren't the liberals who are for a one global community, borderless countries. Also he is the only person ever to fight the media and not be shamed into submission.
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This is the Dem Party
David Hogg- suggesting brainwashed teens dictate gun policy while self promoting themselves for camera time.
Stormy Daniels- a porn star
James Comey- a corrupt FBI official who was fired and exposed as setting up a fake special counsel BS.
Andrew McCabe- a corrupt FBI official who was fired.
Maxine Waters
Hillary Clinton
Nancy Pelosi
Jimmy Kimmel
Illegal immigrants
Well done.
David Hogg- suggesting brainwashed teens dictate gun policy while self promoting themselves for camera time.
Stormy Daniels- a porn star
James Comey- a corrupt FBI official who was fired and exposed as setting up a fake special counsel BS.
Andrew McCabe- a corrupt FBI official who was fired.
Maxine Waters
Hillary Clinton
Nancy Pelosi
Jimmy Kimmel
Illegal immigrants
Well done.
So not only did Comey lie to Trump about where the dossier originated, but he withheld details from him. This was their very first official intelligence briefing, at the request of Comey, and Comey is lying to Trump and withholding information.
The above really drives this home. After that first meeting, Trump knew he couldn't trust Comey.
The above really drives this home. After that first meeting, Trump knew he couldn't trust Comey.
I assume the intent is just to have this thrown out and yell about corrupt judges colluding?
Obviously they never intend to have to actually provide any evidence or be subjected to discovery.
Don’t worry, Dionysus I’m sure will be a voice against the ‘echo chamber’ while your gone.
There’s plenty of Dems on here to combat an echo chamber. Nevertheless, if you have a television, watch movies, have social media or go to school, it’s pretty damn difficult for conservatives to be in an echo chamber considering we’re subjected and beat over the head by the left’s views non-stop (can’t even watch movies or sports now without it).
Don’t worry about conservatives needing to hear an opposing view. Happens all the time. Now for the left...
Don’t worry about conservatives needing to hear an opposing view. Happens all the time. Now for the left...
lol earlier.
But I'm thinking, why is the name democrat still accepted in modern society?
Collusion, Anyone?
As the likelihood that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia seems headed toward zero, the likelihood of proof of a different form of collusion seems headed upward toward certainty.
It was fueled by breathless media coverage of such trivial events as Jeff Sessions' conversation with the Russian ambassador at a Washington reception -- and, of course, by the appointment of former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel. But Mueller's prosecutions of Trump campaign operatives were for misdeeds long before the campaign, and his indictment of 13 Russians specified that no American was a "knowing participant" in their work.
Now there's talk that Mueller is winding up his investigation. It seems unlikely that whatever he reports will fulfill the daydreams so many liberals have of making Trump go the way of Richard Nixon.
Meanwhile, the evidence builds of collusion by Obama administration law enforcement and intelligence personnel in trying to elect Hillary Clinton and defeat and delegitimize Trump in and after the 2016 election.
The investigation of Clinton's illegal email system was conducted with kid gloves. FBI Director James Comey accepted Attorney General Loretta Lynch's order to call it a "matter" rather than an "investigation." Clinton aides were allowed to keep her emails and destroy 30,000 of them, plus cellphones. They were not subject to grand jury subpoenas, and a potential co-defendant was allowed to claim attorney-client privilege.
On June 27, 2016, Lynch clandestinely met with Bill Clinton on his plane at the Phoenix airport -- a meeting that became known only thanks to an alert local TV reporter. Lynch supposedly left the decision on prosecution to Comey, who on July 5 announced publicly that Clinton had been "extremely careless" but lacked intent to violate the law, even though the statute punishes such violations whether they are intentional or not.
Contrast that with the collusion of Obama officials with the Clinton campaign-financed Christophe Steele/Fusion GPS dossier alleging Trump ties with Russians. Comey and the Justice Department used it, without divulging who paid for it, to get a FISA warrant to surveil former Trump campaign operative Carter Page's future and past communications -- the "wiretap" Trump was derided for mentioning.
Similarly, when Comey informed Trump in January 2017 of the contents of the then-unpublished Steele dossier, he didn't reveal that the Clinton campaign had paid for it. Asked on his iatrogenic book tour why not, he blandly said he didn't know. And maybe he doesn't actually realize he was employing J. Edgar Hoover-like tactics to keep his job. Maybe.
In any case, after he was fired, he immediately sent four of his internal memos, at least one of them classified, to a law professor friend to leak them to the press, with the intent of getting a special counsel appointed -- who turned out to be his longtime friend and ally Robert Mueller. Collusion, anyone?
Collusion can get complicated and sometimes fails to produce the intended results. Comey's deputy FBI director, Andrew McCabe, reportedly kept to himself for weeks the discovery that Clinton emails had been transmitted over the home computer of her aide Huma Abedin's then-husband, the disgraced ex-Rep. Anthony Weiner. After Comey learned of this, he made his Oct. 28 announcement that the Clinton email investigation was being reopened.
Comey and McCabe have produced contradictory accounts of events, and Comey's public praise of McCabe contrasts with his referral of McCabe to Justice's inspector general, who found him guilty of "lack of candor" -- a fireable offense for which he was indeed fired. Partners in collusion sometimes fall out.
Longtime Clinton friend Lanny Davis charges that Comey's statement was responsible for Clinton's defeat, and Comey, on his book tour, admitted that he may have made it only because he assumed Clinton would win.
The blame ultimately belongs to Barack Obama, who knew of Clinton's private email system and who could have ordered her to follow the law. But that's one bit of collusion that didn't occur.
As the likelihood that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia seems headed toward zero, the likelihood of proof of a different form of collusion seems headed upward toward certainty.
It was fueled by breathless media coverage of such trivial events as Jeff Sessions' conversation with the Russian ambassador at a Washington reception -- and, of course, by the appointment of former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel. But Mueller's prosecutions of Trump campaign operatives were for misdeeds long before the campaign, and his indictment of 13 Russians specified that no American was a "knowing participant" in their work.
Now there's talk that Mueller is winding up his investigation. It seems unlikely that whatever he reports will fulfill the daydreams so many liberals have of making Trump go the way of Richard Nixon.
Meanwhile, the evidence builds of collusion by Obama administration law enforcement and intelligence personnel in trying to elect Hillary Clinton and defeat and delegitimize Trump in and after the 2016 election.
The investigation of Clinton's illegal email system was conducted with kid gloves. FBI Director James Comey accepted Attorney General Loretta Lynch's order to call it a "matter" rather than an "investigation." Clinton aides were allowed to keep her emails and destroy 30,000 of them, plus cellphones. They were not subject to grand jury subpoenas, and a potential co-defendant was allowed to claim attorney-client privilege.
On June 27, 2016, Lynch clandestinely met with Bill Clinton on his plane at the Phoenix airport -- a meeting that became known only thanks to an alert local TV reporter. Lynch supposedly left the decision on prosecution to Comey, who on July 5 announced publicly that Clinton had been "extremely careless" but lacked intent to violate the law, even though the statute punishes such violations whether they are intentional or not.
Contrast that with the collusion of Obama officials with the Clinton campaign-financed Christophe Steele/Fusion GPS dossier alleging Trump ties with Russians. Comey and the Justice Department used it, without divulging who paid for it, to get a FISA warrant to surveil former Trump campaign operative Carter Page's future and past communications -- the "wiretap" Trump was derided for mentioning.
Similarly, when Comey informed Trump in January 2017 of the contents of the then-unpublished Steele dossier, he didn't reveal that the Clinton campaign had paid for it. Asked on his iatrogenic book tour why not, he blandly said he didn't know. And maybe he doesn't actually realize he was employing J. Edgar Hoover-like tactics to keep his job. Maybe.
In any case, after he was fired, he immediately sent four of his internal memos, at least one of them classified, to a law professor friend to leak them to the press, with the intent of getting a special counsel appointed -- who turned out to be his longtime friend and ally Robert Mueller. Collusion, anyone?
Collusion can get complicated and sometimes fails to produce the intended results. Comey's deputy FBI director, Andrew McCabe, reportedly kept to himself for weeks the discovery that Clinton emails had been transmitted over the home computer of her aide Huma Abedin's then-husband, the disgraced ex-Rep. Anthony Weiner. After Comey learned of this, he made his Oct. 28 announcement that the Clinton email investigation was being reopened.
Comey and McCabe have produced contradictory accounts of events, and Comey's public praise of McCabe contrasts with his referral of McCabe to Justice's inspector general, who found him guilty of "lack of candor" -- a fireable offense for which he was indeed fired. Partners in collusion sometimes fall out.
Longtime Clinton friend Lanny Davis charges that Comey's statement was responsible for Clinton's defeat, and Comey, on his book tour, admitted that he may have made it only because he assumed Clinton would win.
The blame ultimately belongs to Barack Obama, who knew of Clinton's private email system and who could have ordered her to follow the law. But that's one bit of collusion that didn't occur.
There's no evidence of what they're accusing so it may not even get that far, but if it does get that far, then this opens them to discovery. Maybe them someone other than Crowd Strike will get a chance to analyze their servers that they refused to turn over to the FBI.
Yeah, unless you abort that person.
Also love how this tweet makes it sound like they know how the child will think. Of course, I guess they’re banking on indoctrination through media, social media and school doing it’s thing.
Your implied assertion that the far left and far right are comparable is utter bullshite.
Most everyone paying attention has known for awhile, and last night's memo release proved it, but now it's official.
For some reason, this brings to mind a famous SNL/Eddie Murphy skit......
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/white-like-me/n9308?snl=1
Not one resident lefty is going to respond to the Comey memos today?
It's like it's Wednesday, Nov. 9, 2016 around here.
It's like it's Wednesday, Nov. 9, 2016 around here.
Sued for winning an election.
They are all too busy getting their liberal media overlord fake news directives.
Don't worry, they will be here soon with a plethora of fake news to spread
Wait wait....I heard on the radio today them describe the lawsuit as a “vast conspiracy”.....fair to say, a “vast right wing conspiracy”?
Laugh tf out loud, they just have no self awareness do they.
Amazing these dumbasses are supporting a special prosecutor that doesn’t have shit and are pinning their hopes on nailing the president on a consensual sex act and a vast right wing conspiracy against the Clintons.
That’s some tasty irony folks....
Laugh tf out loud, they just have no self awareness do they.
Amazing these dumbasses are supporting a special prosecutor that doesn’t have shit and are pinning their hopes on nailing the president on a consensual sex act and a vast right wing conspiracy against the Clintons.
That’s some tasty irony folks....
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