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I agree as well.
The whole point of NATO was to prevent ww3.
Not deliberately cause it, much less over a non-Nato country.
Remember when you guys used to be about "make love, not war," and "no blood for oil?"
What's even more pathetic about this is that you honestly think escalating this insanity will not affect us here in the US.
This isn't some Podunk ME or small East Asia country that can't hit us back here at home.
You are dealing with another nation that can end every one of us in a flash of light, just as we can.
That is how this psychotic brinkmanship ends.
Grow up and wise up.
 
Trump running our country like Putin has a picture of a Russian woman peeing in his mouth. Boutta trash the economy with tariffs, uncertainty, and an increase in the deficit 😂

America gotta learn lessons the hard way sometimes.
Does he have Cooties as well, Scooter?
The DNC clown car grows more imbecilic by the day.
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We always need to be clear that Russia is an enemy. Also that Ukraine is an enemy. Germany and the UK likewise. Canada and Mexico also.

Fences make good neighbors. Respecting boundaries is important to mutual understanding. If your neighbor charges 200% tariffs on your exports to their country, they are not just a neighbor, but a competitor/combatant in economics. Thus they are an enemy of sorts and must be looked at in that way or you are hurting yourself.

People have not evolved. They just have more advanced toys. People are the same as they were 4.5k years ago. They are imperfect with the potential for good actions and bad.

Without a functional system of justice that is blind to differences people will revert to bad actions more and more. It's how the world has always worked and will continue to do so until it is remade.
 
A friend of my wife posted this on Facebook:

Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up.

However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.

Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.

Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.

When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.

Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.

Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.

So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.

This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.

Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them.

Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democrats' support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him.

They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.

Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump's terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.

By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond.

Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.

Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.
I have my doubts that putting an American civilian tripwire presence in Ukraine would ever deter future war.

As I’ve said from the beginning- cut a deal that promises no NATO, and begin arming to the teeth by buying western weapons.

Simultaneously try like hell to find rapprochement with Russia, difficult as that is.

Ukraine has no other real options.
 
A friend of my wife posted this on Facebook:

Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up.

However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.

Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.

Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.

When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.

Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.

Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.

So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.

This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.

Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them.

Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democrats' support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him.

They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.

Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump's terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.

By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond.

Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.

Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this frgame of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.
GP. What's your wife's friend's username on this board? 😊
 
A friend of my wife posted this on Facebook:

Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up.

However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.

Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.

Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.

When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.

Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.

Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.

So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.

This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.

Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them.

Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democrats' support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him.

They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.

Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump's terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.

By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond.

Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.

Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.
Trump is a small minded POS that is ruining America's reputation in the world, trashing our economy and destroying the alliances we have had since WW2.
He's playing checkers with suckers who are too stupid to see they are his useful idiots that echo all of his Russian propaganda.



 
We always need to be clear that Russia is an enemy. Also that Ukraine is an enemy. Germany and the UK likewise. Canada and Mexico also.

Fences make good neighbors. Respecting boundaries is important to mutual understanding. If your neighbor charges 200% tariffs on your exports to their country, they are not just a neighbor, but a competitor/combatant in economics. Thus they are an enemy of sorts and must be looked at in that way or you are hurting yourself.

People have not evolved. They just have more advanced toys. People are the same as they were 4.5k years ago. They are imperfect with the potential for good actions and bad.

Without a functional system of justice that is blind to differences people will revert to bad actions more and more. It's how the world has always worked and will continue to do so until it is remade.
That's the fundamental difference in liberals and conservatives in my opinion. Liberals believe we can achieve a perfect utopia. Conservatives understand that's impossible and it's all about trade offs. It all boils down to that.
 
HUGE if true, since it's from MSNBC, LOL.


True. Here I imagine is one reason. Probably others as well.

'Dennehy clashed with acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove over the identification of agents who investigated the January 6 attack at the U.S. Capitol, writing in a staff email, "Today, we find ourselves in the middle of a battle of our own, as good people are being walked out of the FBI and others are being targeted because they did their jobs in accordance with the law and FBI policy."
 
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A friend of my wife posted this on Facebook:

Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up.

However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.

Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.

Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.

When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.

Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.

Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.

So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.

This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.

Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them.

Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democrats' support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him.

They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.

Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump's terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.

By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond.

Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.

Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.
The heads of liberal posters, and Rino supporting posters just exploded. Waiting for their defenders to swoop in on this one with a nonsensical rebuttal.
 
Iirc there is very public evidence out there showing our military industrial complex hoped we would be attacked so we could go to war. They even considered staging an attack to justify getting involved.

Makes you wonder if pearl harbor was really much of a surprise attack at all. An analyst tried to warn everyone but kept getting dismissed. The MIC probably knew it and let it happen.



Not aware of any ruling limiting pardon power. Not saying you are wrong, im just not aware. Im not aware of lots of things lol.
The British agent that bond was made to look as in the books actually told the fbi the attack was coming multiple times. He was dismissed.
It's almost the OPPOSITE. Since I'm taking early SS (for a number of reasons), If I earn more than 17,500 dollars in a year (until I reach age 67), my SS benefits are reduced significantly for the amount above that. I quit a job I enjoy BECAUSE of that.
Same with disability. I'm essentially penalized for trying to work as a quadriplegic. I'd have to make some obscene amount to not get completely f***ed and pay for all my caregiving needs. And that is before a house payment and utilities and food.
 



Actually, if you were a foreign adversary of the US you’d support:

—Open borders and mass migration
—Teaching self-hatred to America’s children
—Destruction of faith and family
—Dragging America into forever wars
—Demonizing law-abiding citizens while empowering criminals and cartels
—Suffocating national development with unceasing and impenetrable regulation
—Financing marxist NGOs with unlimited taxpayer dollars
—Appointing radical judges to thwart the democratic will
—Deindustrialization of US manufacturing base
—Ending merit hiring across the public and private sector
—Erasing truth and waging war on nature and biology
—Promoting art, architecture and literature designed to denigrate and demoralize the country
—Forcing the shutdown of domestic energy infrastructure and production
—Debasing the currency through fraud, waste and government corruption
—Funding a permanent unelected bureaucracy that believes itself unanswerable to the people







Here is the funny thing about Miller to me, when others are laughing in pictures....he seems annoyed haha. You can see him thinking 'this is all bullshit, all I want to do is cut some liberal throats'



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Damn, what a beat-down.

Encapsulates what really is the argument, btw. The battle is not red vs blue or even MAGA vs TDS: it’s patriot vs globalist.
 
Wow, a 100% of all school shooters were on some type of anti-depressant. 100%.


Wow, Big Pharma is coming for your children. Pretty sure we will probably find out that all of those funny people demonstrating in the street coming for your children are also on the same or similar drugs used for mental instability.
 
I agree as well.
The whole point of NATO was to prevent ww3.
Not deliberately cause it, much less over a non-Nato country.
Remember when you guys used to be about "make love, not war," and "no blood for oil?"
What's even more pathetic about this is that you honestly think escalating this insanity will not affect us here in the US.
This isn't some Podunk ME or small East Asia country that can't hit us back here at home.
You are dealing with another nation that can end every one of us in a flash of light, just as we can.
That is how this psychotic brinkmanship ends.
Grow up and wise up.
This. While our military was making tik-tok dance videos and paying for tranny surgeries Russia has took a giant lead in space/space weapons.
Their ground forces are what they are, but I wouldn't strictly judge them by the Ukraine war. They are basically emptying their prisons and sending them to the front line in Soviet era equipment.
 
This will never happen, but one can hope! The apoplectic fallout from TDS sufferers would be EPIC to behold!! Their gut reaction would be to protest and burn wads of Trump hundos when the first batch rolls off the presses, but the only thing they love more than their TDS is money….especially someone else’s money. What a dilemma!

Got me to thinking that Trump’s face emblazoned on a hundred just wouldn’t suffice, though. He needs to decree by fiat the creation of a legal tender bill that would be the “biggest, most beautiful cash denomination this nation has ever seen” and plaster his face on it! 😆

 
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Yes. Doug Ford absolutely has TDS. I’ll worry about what the premier of Ontario has to say later on. Here’s what Canadians think of him.


The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Trump will make him the most popular man in Canada.
 
I just don't see that happening without congressional approval and I don't see that happening now or ever. I could see him announcing no more aid for Ukraine, however.
True. I believe that the Senate would have to approve. But I'm watching a live feed of Steve Turley now and he's talking about it. Musk must have said something today that opened the flood gates. But not sure what.

And this just now.....The Trump administration is pausing all aid to Ukraine, including weapons in transit or in Poland.
 
The heads of liberal posters, and Rino supporting posters just exploded. Waiting for their defenders to swoop in on this one with a nonsensical rebuttal.

I didn't hear Trump say "Thank You" to Biden.

What a bunch of clowns. 🤡🤡🤡🤡



 
True. I believe that the Senate would have to approve. But I'm watching a live feed of Steve Turley now and he's talking about it. Musk must have said something today that opened the flood gates. But not sure what.

And this just now.....The Trump administration is pausing all aid to Ukraine, including weapons in transit or in Poland.
 
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