POLITICAL THREAD

[TheFrontRunner]

He’s going to make a great POTUS in 28. This coming from him in particular is very powerful.

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Yeah, Vance was on a morning Sunday show like every Sunday explaining the administration's views

 

[billCgmx]

James Carville said Democrats started their '7th string quarterback' by running Kamala Harris in 2024

Longtime Democratic strategist James Carville said Democrats ran their '7th string quarterback' in the 2024 presidential election, in an interview with PBS on Friday.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Ron Mehico]

In the long term, zero. In the short term, quite a few.

Japan comes to mind right away. They had a cultural problem and they realized the needed to address it so they shut the borders and removed what they deemed harmful. They ran a bit long with it, but it worked.

I don't think even the new admin is in favor of such complete isolationism. Something like 40% of the S&P depends upon foreign monies. They won't risk that, nor will they compromise our ability to project power, but they will hopefully purge the spies and foreign instigators from our shores.

What I do expect to happen is that the US will start to cherry pick when, where, and with whom they do business, and that venture will be equal or outright favor us. The rest can pound sand.

Ya short term I don’t see too many issues. The issues is giving other countries the incentive to do business with each other and not the US that will be harmful - other countries would love the opportunity to increase their trade to the detriment of the US. Tariffs are a huge negative to free trade of course but it seems to me Trump is using them as a negotiating tactic and not a long term trade policy.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

In the long term, zero. In the short term, quite a few.

Japan comes to mind right away. They had a cultural problem and they realized the needed to address it so they shut the borders and removed what they deemed harmful. They ran a bit long with it, but it worked.

I don't think even the new admin is in favor of such complete isolationism. Something like 40% of the S&P depends upon foreign monies. They won't risk that, nor will they compromise our ability to project power, but they will hopefully purge the spies and foreign instigators from our shores.

What I do expect to happen is that the US will start to cherry pick when, where, and with whom they do business, and that venture will be equal or outright favor us. The rest can pound sand.

There’s nothing wrong with any of this. Hell, I don’t think Canada will accept any foreigner that doesn’t speak French. Not reeling in illegal immigration is going to doom the legacy of the Biden administration, even though it’s not felt as much currently.

 

[AustinTXCat]

** Wise Words Department **

"We live in an age where truth really doesn't matter anymore."

-Bill O'Reilly

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

2. Neither was isolationist. Western Rome in particular depended almost completely upon imported goods for luxury and for food. They also depended heavily upon imported slave labor to the point that regular citizens couldn't get jobs. Sound familiar?

I literally chuckled when I read his post that Rome had collapsed due to isolationism (in response to Wayne).

 

[Lost In FL]

We also need to look at why they choose to come here illegally instead of through legal means. Again, it takes like 10 years to enter this country legally. That’s just too long so of course they are going to try to circumvent the system.

they come here illegally because they are criminals OR do not value the rule of law.

None of that is our fault. Not my fault, nor is it your fault. There are some things we cannot fix. So ... best to keep the scorpions out.

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

** Wise Words Department **

"We live in an age where truth really doesn't matter anymore."

-Bill O'Reilly

Of course lies have been around since the beginning of time....but when 'lies' became 'spin' in the Clinton years I knew we had fallen off the cliff.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

You seem emotional and argumentative. I am not typing while laying on my belly, there is no writhing or squirming. I am not a snake. I thought we were having a nice philosophical conversation - I am not trying to win anything. Who is breeding like rabbits? What is the current birth rate in developed countries? It’s currently 2.1 (2 Will keep a population flat). Did you know as people go to a more developed country their birthdate drops. That’s why in the 60s people thought the current world population would be 12 billion, they didn’t account for the decreasing birth rate in developing countries. Theories as to why are less infant mortality, movement away from farm work, and the desires to be a consumer making raising children less appealing.

Back in the 1800s we were able to generate power from coal at 10%. We’re currently up to 60%. As new energy needs arise not only will new energy sources appear (nuclear for instance) but the technology to extract it and extract it more efficiently will become cheaper and more readily available. We can handle as many smart motivated people as we can, it will only lead to better outcomes for all.

Now you're on to another argument. Maybe we can scale. Maybe we cant. There is zero logical reason to move forward with any excess capacity model. Improve infrastructure and expand services THEN evaluate letting in more people. Not the reverse.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

Well my wish was partially granted…. Hogg is a Vice Chair of the DNC….

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I think it's precious that they have zero ability to learn and keep doubling down with more Communist tool bags.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

It appears the war with the cabal is just getting started.
Call me a "conspiracy theorist" if you must.
It's just hard to overlook these patterns.

F.A.A.’s Main Warning System for Pilots Is Down, U.S. Official Says​

Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said the Federal Aviation Administration was using a backup system while it worked to address the problem.

https://archive.is/w8Ngf

 

[HeismaNole]

Trump was correct again. She was DEI dictionary definition. 19 or20 days of flight time and she is allowed to fly in a very busy air space at night? Wow. DEI gets you killed.

Why would one need to scrub your socials? Hmmm

Guess we couldn't see the unhinged leftist rants and support.

 

[warrior-cat]

So your premise is that because it takes a while to come in, people have the right to come to the US? How many people should be allowed to be here, Mike?

I have asked this question of every lib here. How many before it is too many to be able to support them. Have never gotten an answer. We are way over that amount now in my opinion. Since we are in debt in the trillions, I agree that we should take no more in until we have at least reversed the debt and are cutting into it. Then we should only take in those with specific skills who can contribute to our communities and denounce their allegiance to their country of origin or at least if looking for dual citizenship pledge allegiance to ours as well with an understanding that if they commit traitorous acts they could be immediately deported or incarcerated depending on the crime.

 

[Lost In FL]

James Carville said Democrats started their '7th string quarterback' by running Kamala Harris in 2024

Longtime Democratic strategist James Carville said Democrats ran their '7th string quarterback' in the 2024 presidential election, in an interview with PBS on Friday.

www.foxnews.com

"Now, if you would've put the staggering talent that exists in today's Democratic Party -- you heard what I said? The staggering talent that exists in today's Democratic Party. If people would have seen that, they'd have gone 'I didn't know they had people like that, that can actually complete a sentence, okay? That actually know how to frame a message, that actually have a sense of accomplishment of doing something,'" claimed Carville.

Here is what he is really saying, and it is an indictment of the media as well as the Dumocrat Party. The standard the Dumocrats have to meet ... can they finish a sentence? And if they could, they would have been better than Kamala ... again this is an indictment of the media as well as their party ... they ran someone whom they KNEW couldn't finish a damn sentence ... and tried to push her on us like nobody's business. Which leads to WHY and WHO is really in control of the D's.

@Bigmikeydelight this is the team you currently align with. Nothing says you have to stick with Pocahontas' tribe.

 

[WayneDougan]

I have asked this question of every lib here. How many before it is too many to be able to support them. Have never gotten an answer. We are way over that amount now in my opinion. Since we are in debt in the trillions, I agree that we should take no more in until we have at least reversed the debt and are cutting into it. Then we should only take in those with specific skills who can contribute to our communities and denounce their allegiance to their country of origin or at least if looking for dual citizenship pledge allegiance to ours as well with an understanding that if they commit traitorous acts they could be immediately deported or incarcerated depending on the crime.

But who would pick our cotton???

 

[Lost In FL]

I have asked this question of every lib here. How many before it is too many to be able to support them. Have never gotten an answer. We are way over that amount now in my opinion. Since we are in debt in the trillions, I agree that we should take no more in until we have at least reversed the debt and are cutting into it. Then we should only take in those with specific skills who can contribute to our communities and denounce their allegiance to their country of origin or at least if looking for dual citizenship pledge allegiance to ours as well with an understanding that if they commit traitorous acts they could be immediately deported or incarcerated depending on the crime.

We are way over that amount now in my opinion.

That is why they will not answer that ... they know we are WAY over the amount as well. Also, if they put a limit or number, then they lose their ability to virtue-signal. And that is what they know to do...

 

[Ron Mehico]

Now you're on to another argument. Maybe we can scale. Maybe we cant. There is zero logical reason to move forward with any excess capacity model. Improve infrastructure and expand services THEN evaluate letting in more people. Not the reverse.

We can scale - there is no logical argument or precedence saying we won’t. Now with regards to having better infrastructure before letting more people in - that’s fine in theory but it isnt realistic or going to happen. We are not slowing migration, legal or otherwise, to zero. So, living in reality, we can let good qualified people in. In addition, if we shut immigration to zero, we open up opportunities for qualified successful people to move to other countries and make those emerging competitors to the US in addition to offering no financial incentive to scale. If we’re staying the same size who wants to invest manpower or resources to find more efficient forms of energy? There is no reason. Meaning that might open pathways for another country to find other energy resources and again become a competitor to the US and weaken the US. No country has become more prosperous after being isolated.

 

[JumperJack]

I bet there are easily half a billion that meet the criteria of the first 3 (I don’t think that many would would to uproot their lives and move the the US, though). The bottleneck that is created is the job and housing component , right? It would incentivize immigration to less desirable locations like the rust belt and even places like Monticello because these locations would be easier to secure those two things.

You plan to dump half a billion foreigners in places like Wayne Co.? Just need to create jobs and houses in places like Wayne Co. to support them? Am I understanding you correctly?

 

[HeismaNole]

I think it's precious that they have zero ability to learn and keep doubling down with more Communist tool bags.

You can't radicalize your base and then just turn it off one day. This is who they are. This is what they are until something would cause a massive reset .

Personally, I don't think this party should have ever been allowed to exist again post Civil War. They have been the bad guys throughout our history but controls our media.

It would be nice if we didn't have to rely on needing the Republican Party to win every single election to keep away commie globalism. But not only are we under attack by (((globalists))), we have tons of controlled opposition within the party. MAGA is a populist third party having to run under the umbrella of this shitty Bush party of neocons.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

I literally chuckled when I read his post that Rome had collapsed due to isolationism (in response to Wayne).

Yeah, their empire covered something like 10 countries on 3 continents at their height if my memory is correct.
It's the polar opposite of "isolationism."

 

[JumperJack]

they come here illegally because they are criminals OR do not value the rule of law.

None of that is our fault. Not my fault, nor is it your fault. There are some things we cannot fix. So ... best to keep the scorpions out.

The moral lines are now finally clear. This election made that happen. And here they are: you believe in the rule of law and you believe that we are a nation linked by blood and common history and culture, or, you believe we are an economic zone whose wealth belongs to the whole world.

You are either on one side or the other.

 

[JumperJack]

Yeah, their empire covered something like 10 countries on 3 continents at their height if my memory is correct.
It's the complete opposite of "isolationism."

I bet they were feeling isolated when millions of barbarians flooded their frontiers, burned their cities and raped their daughters.

 

[ukalum1988]

Anyone see James Comer & Kelly Craft shaking Cal's hand before the game? Shame.

I was pretty sure it was them when I saw it. I didn’t think Cal was the type to schmooze with Pubs.

 

[Lost In FL]

The moral lines are now finally clear. This election made that happen. And here they are: you believe in the rule of law and you believe that we are a nation linked by blood and common history and culture, or, you believe we are an economic zone whose wealth belongs to the whole world.

You are either on one side or the other.

And as I've been saying for years ... there is no reconciliation.

If you do not believe in the rule of law and that the US wealth belongs to the world, then we all cannot have a strong country together.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

I bet there were feeling isolated when millions of barbarians flooded their frontiers, burned their cities and raped their daughters.

I wonder how you say payback is a bitch in Latin?

 

[Girthang]

I was pretty sure it was them when I saw it. I didn’t think Cal was the type to schmooze with Pubs.

Money and influence moves the needle

 

[Girthang]

And as I've been saying for years ... there is no reconciliation.

If you do not believe in the rule of law and that the US wealth belongs to the world, then we all cannot have a strong country together.

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[TheFrontRunner]

"However, with 70 percent of its sales in the United States, they are now considering expanding to Ohio, Wisconsin, and Missouri.“We need the U.S. as a business. It’s critical.” - Mid-Day Squares Founder Jake Karls."











"We need to cut taxes on work, investment, energy, home building, and making stuff at home. Let's start by axing the liberal carbon tax and the liberal capital gains tax hike."

 

[Ron Mehico]

I bet they were feeling isolated when millions of barbarians flooded their frontiers, burned their cities and raped their daughters.

To your point, in the late Roman Empire, the western portion (not the Byzantine side) focused on increasing border defense with fortified walls and stationing their military on the border due to constant attacks from Germanic tribes. This shifted the focus away from expansion and trade and was one of the final nails in the coffin so to speak. Referred to as relative isolationism.

 

[JumperJack]

We’re traveling into the heart of darkness. Turns out that a whole lot of the evil that you suspected leftists (Marxists) were fostering by weaponizing our own government against us, was in fact NOT your imagination. We’ve been betrayed and sold out.

 

[JumperJack]

To your point, in the late Roman Empire, the western portion (not the Byzantine side) focused on increasing border defense with fortified walls and stationing their military on the border due to constant attacks from Germanic tribes. This shifters the focus away from expansion and trade and was one of the final nails in the coffin do to speak. Referred to as relative isolationism.

My point though is that they could not make everyone into a citizen. There is always, somewhere, an outside group that is only interested in your wealth, not your culture or ideals.

Otherwise, our ideals would transform the whole world into our image. We have to let go of our hubris in that regard.

 

[warrior-cat]

Strawman.

Your argument was it historically led to downfalls, so my counterargument was specifically to that. No society in history ever benefitted from letting in more people than it could handle. Period.

Much of the downfalls of past powers can be attributed in large part to politics (greed, power), morality (the lack thereof), and liberalism.

 

[Ron Mehico]

My point though is that they could not make everyone into a citizen. There is always, somewhere, an outside group that is only interested in your wealth, not your culture or ideals.

Otherwise, our ideals would transform the whole world into our image. We have to let go of our hubris in that regard.

Absolutely, I think unfettered free for all migration is a horrible idea and think the previous administration was insane for allowing it. Ironically Trump is asking that of Egypt and Jordan with Gaza and their smartly resisting that. My only argument is legal immigration of the qualified citizens is a great thing .

 

[warrior-cat]

In the long term, zero. In the short term, quite a few.

Japan comes to mind right away. They had a cultural problem and they realized the needed to address it so they shut the borders and removed what they deemed harmful. They ran a bit long with it, but it worked.

I don't think even the new admin is in favor of such complete isolationism. Something like 40% of the S&P depends upon foreign monies. They won't risk that, nor will they compromise our ability to project power, but they will hopefully purge the spies and foreign instigators from our shores.

What I do expect to happen is that the US will start to cherry pick when, where, and with whom they do business, and that venture will be equal or outright favor us. The rest can pound sand.

Japan was one I was thinking about too, as well as Poland. I wonder if most here know that Mexico has the least number of immigrants integrated into their country. Sure, they allow others to move through their country to get to ours and that should make people ask and wonder why.

 

[55wildcat]

Good thing her mamma did not name her YeWanna...Jus sayin!

DeWanna Bonner will join the Indiana Fever, AP source says​

 

[RunninRichie]

Trump presidency off to a fire start. Literally.

 

[55wildcat]

 

[55wildcat]

 

[55wildcat]

In order for a Dr to say this, somebody had to try it,....