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[sambowieshin]

did the guy that killed himself serve his time? YES or NO?

I am only concerned with the ones pardoned for macing, assaulting, and beating cops over the head with poles and fire extinguishers.
You know ... The criminal ones you are a fan boy of.

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

Bon Voyage, Linda.

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[sambowieshin]

did he serve his time?!?!

You cannot answer a simple question, because you are retarded ... Simple Sam. SS ... that is why you support nazis lolol. And before you snort back ELON ... I didn't vote for Elon, you retard.

Because you do not have the mental capacity or moral courage to answer a straightforward question (remember ... what SPECIFICALLY did Milley, Fauci, Cheney, Hunter, and Biden's family do in order to warrant a pardon?) there is NO conversation to have with you.

Cheney, Fauci and J6th committee did nothing. Biden was sparing them the hassle of dealing with Trump's potential illegal BS.
Hunter Biden did commit crimes and did not deserve a pardon.
See how I am able to discern and draw logical distinctions??
Now tell me again how you support the beating of innocent cops over the head. 🤡

 

[Lost In FL]

I have always been for law and order. You are the supporter of cop beaters and criminals.
You are the one that supported doing nothing with the border fool.
You're nothing but a useful idiot.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/21/politics/what-to-know-pardons-january-6-trump/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/25/politics/gop-senators-angry-trump-immigration-deal/index.html

my God, you are really dumb. You have zero independent thought and it is quite boring discussing anything with you.

i sincerely wanted to know what the left hive mind believed where the reasons for the pardons: Milley, Fauci, J6 committee, and Biden's family. I mean, if they did nothing wrong, then WHY would they need a pardon?? Further, if they accept a pardon, then they are admitting guilt (Burdick v US). WHAT are they guilty of? And I sincerely believed you were the only one dumb enough to answer. And my expectations were too high.

One last chance.

 

[sambowieshin]

my God, you are really dumb. You have zero independent thought and it is quite boring discussing anything with you.

i sincerely wanted to know what the left hive mind believed where the reasons for the pardons: Milley, Fauci, J6 committee, and Biden's family. I mean, if they did nothing wrong, then WHY would they need a pardon?? Further, if they accept a pardon, then they are admitting guilt (Burdick v US). WHAT are they guilty of? And I sincerely believed you were the only one dumb enough to answer. And my expectations were too high.

One last chance.

I answered.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

haha

“E-L-G-S-E-S”

 

[BlueRunner11]

Cheney, Fauci and J6th committee did nothing. Biden was sparing them the hassle of dealing with Trump's potential illegal BS.
Hunter Biden did commit crimes and did not deserve a pardon.
See how I am able to discern and draw logical distinctions??
Now tell me again how you support the beating of innocent cops over the head. 🤡

The election was stolen. Fauci is guilty of crimes against humanity and a lot of Dems were not only in on it but tried to cover it all up.

All this will be made public during the next 4 years and documented and recorded in US history going forward.

Once again, you are on the wrong side of it.

 

[JumperJack]

Im not excited about some of the j6 pardons and clemencies but.....they don't bother me much because those people never got a fair shake.

Any objective judge would've forced the government to hand over all discovery (as required by the law) which includes the number of cooperating or confidential witnesses and/or undercovers. You cant always get their names, but zero reason they should be withheld. Same with audio and video evidence.

Add in the fact they were all wrongly denied bail. People should understand most everyone in the federal system is entitled to be released post trial except in some limited circumstances. One of those being a flight risk and another being a danger to the general public. Id say rare few of these defendants met either of those exceptions and at worst should've been given pretrial monitoring.

Finally the speedy trial act. Every defendant is entitled to a speedy trial. That is a very strict standard in federal courts and requires trial in 70 days from the latter of indictment or first appearance. The only exception to it is an ends of justice exception which is applied only in complex cases, which are also defined. These cases met none of these, but people were held pretrial forever which forced many just to go ahead and plea.

Short of all these blatant injustices, most all these defendants probably beat their cases anyway. So while im not excited about the move, i think its ultimately the just result.

Next step is to find out everything about the setup and pursue every prosecutor that intentionally withheld this information and prosecute for perjury or obstruction of justice everyone that withholds evidence or lies about what went on.

Thank you for this excellent post. Most of us have never known or have long since forgotten why and how these people are being treated differently. Nobody likes to see a riot desecrate our public buildings but at the end of the day these people are not any different than anybody else. They are laughably NOT “insurrectionists”.

I’m so glad the curtain has been brought down on it.

 

[UKBlueBlood]

No way in hell that gets ratified by 3/4 of the states.

Perhaps. Or SCOTUS may surprise me and draw a distinction in the interpretation of birthright citizenship. Who knows, only one way to find out.

Now to be clear so we have you on the record…

You would vote AGAINST ratifying an amendment clarifying that children born to illegal foreign invaders are not automatically granted birthright citizenship, correct?

 

[Lost In FL]

Cheney, Fauci and J6th committee did nothing. Biden was sparing them the hassle of dealing with Trump's potential illegal BS.

False. If they did nothing illegal, then what ACTION made them vulnerable to prosecution? Also, if they accept a pardon, then they are admitting guilt (Burdick v US). Guilty of WHAT??

Hunter Biden did commit crimes and did not deserve a pardon.

True. Good boy, Joe! you answered all the questions...

See how I am able to discern and draw logical conclusions??

You can barely discern the difference between black and white.

Now tell me again how you support the beating of innocent cops over the head. 🤡

when did i ever say that? you can't find it. Here is where logic evades you ... how long should someone serve? How long should ANYONE be held without a trial? NOW, if someone has served their time, then perhaps they should be released? If they were fairly found guilty and served their time, then they should be released. They served YEARS, and were released. In NY, murderers and child rapists serve days ... that is a travesty that you support.

 

[gobigbluebell]

New UN Ambassador Elise Stefanik is milfy.

Such a blessing to have attractive people represent our wonderful country.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Cheney…J6th committee did nothing. Biden was sparing them the hassle of dealing with Trump's potential illegal BS.

It’s inarguable they suborned perjury, committed perjury, tampered with witnesses and destroyed evidence. You can’t even argue that stuff didn’t happen. What other crimes they committed are TBD, but we know for an absolute fact they committed crimes.

 

[BlueRunner11]

I’m about to start posting daily egg price drops in here like I’m @Nightwish84 posting daily poll numbers when Kamala was “in the lead”

@sammysdad05 is going to be buying so many eggs even @sambowieshin wouldnt be able to eat them all.

 

[Lost In FL]

I am only concerned with the ones pardoned for macing, assaulting, and beating cops over the head with poles and fire extinguishers.
You know ... The criminal ones you are a fan boy of.

it's a simple yes or no, simple sam. Yes ... or no.

we'll put you down on record as to being okay with the federal government behaving tyrannically and pushing its citizens to committing suicide.

 

[cole854]

Cheney, Fauci and J6th committee did nothing.

Why were they pardoned?

 

[Lost In FL]

It’s inarguable they suborned perjury, committed perjury, tampered with witnesses and destroyed evidence. You can’t even argue that stuff didn’t happen. What other crimes they committed are TBD, but we know for an absolute fact they committed crimes.

And simple sam is on record for saying ALL those things and more are either not crimes or he is perfectly okay with perjury, witness tampering, etc.

Well done, Bill.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

@augustaky1

This is how august sees it:

 

[Lost In FL]

Im not excited about some of the j6 pardons and clemencies but.....they don't bother me much because those people never got a fair shake.

Any objective judge would've forced the government to hand over all discovery (as required by the law) which includes the number of cooperating or confidential witnesses and/or undercovers. You cant always get their names, but zero reason they should be withheld. Same with audio and video evidence.

Add in the fact they were all wrongly denied bail. People should understand most everyone in the federal system is entitled to be released post trial except in some limited circumstances. One of those being a flight risk and another being a danger to the general public. Id say rare few of these defendants met either of those exceptions and at worst should've been given pretrial monitoring.

Finally the speedy trial act. Every defendant is entitled to a speedy trial. That is a very strict standard in federal courts and requires trial in 70 days from the latter of indictment or first appearance. The only exception to it is an ends of justice exception which is applied only in complex cases, which are also defined. These cases met none of these, but people were held pretrial forever which forced many just to go ahead and plea.

Short of all these blatant injustices, most all these defendants probably beat their cases anyway. So while im not excited about the move, i think its ultimately the just result.

Next step is to find out everything about the setup and pursue every prosecutor that intentionally withheld this information and prosecute for perjury or obstruction of justice everyone that withholds evidence or lies about what went on.

well said. Simple sam and the leftards support unfair, show trials. especially ones produced for prime time.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

 

[bigbluedon]

This was copied from the case of Burdick vs United States. There is a mile of stuff to read if you want. I figure it takes up to much space to post.

After President Gerald Ford left the White House in 1977, close friends said that the President privately justified his pardon of Richard Nixon by carrying in his wallet a portion of the text of the Burdick decision, which stated that a pardon carries an imputation of guilt and that acceptance carries a confession of guilt.[6] Ford made reference to the Burdick decision in his post-pardon written statement furnished to the Judiciary Committee of the United States House of Representatives on October 17, 1974.[7] However, the reference related only to the portion of Burdick that supported the proposition that the Constitution does not limit the pardon power to cases of convicted offenders or even indicted offenders.[7][8]

Justice Joseph McKenna delivered the opinion of the Court in favor of Burdick. The Court ruled Burdick was entitled to reject the pardon for a number of reasons, including the implicit admission of guilt and possibly objectionable terms contained in a conditional pardon. As Burdick was entitled to reject the pardon, he was also entitled to assert his right against self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment.

Although theIn Loranc Supreme Court's opinion stated that a pardon carries "an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it,"[2] this was part of the Court's dictum for the case.[4] Whether the acceptance of a pardon constitutes an admission of guilt by the recipient is disputed. e v. Commandant, USDB (2021) the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that "there is no confession and Lorance does not otherwise lose his right to petition for habeas corpus relief for his court-martial conviction and sentence. The case was remanded for further action not inconsistent with the court’s opinion."[5]

Aaaaaaaand the Democrat hypocrisy is on full display right here.

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Pelosi needs to resign. What a POS.

 

[HeismaNole]

 

[TheFrontRunner]

You knew the birthright issue was going to end up in the courts:

 

[Bill Cosby]

I know standing is a bullshit issue, but who would have standing to sue on the birthright citizenship issue at this point?

 

[augustaky1]

@augustaky1

This is how august sees it:

@augustaky1

This is how august sees it:

Bad. Ass. ❤️

 

[AustinTXCat]

** Wise Words Department **

"Every man has a property in his own person. This nobody has a right to, but himself."

-John Locke

 

[WTF Cat]

I can't put my finger on it, but for some reason, air smells fresher, food tastes better, I seem to have lost some weight... my wife looks younger...

Watching Trump run the bus over the Democrats was pure gold! Probably the best political moment in the last 4 years.

 

[Bill Cosby]

As much as Trump got accomplished yesterday, there is no excuse for Congress to push for two reconciliation bills or delay tax reform. Keep the pressure on.

 

[WTF Cat]

Oh, dont forget:

"Presidents don't affect the daily lives of the average American".

Lol... classic!

 

[Lost In FL]

This was copied from the case of Burdick vs United States. There is a mile of stuff to read if you want. I figure it takes up to much space to post.

After President Gerald Ford left the White House in 1977, close friends said that the President privately justified his pardon of Richard Nixon by carrying in his wallet a portion of the text of the Burdick decision, which stated that a pardon carries an imputation of guilt and that acceptance carries a confession of guilt.[6] Ford made reference to the Burdick decision in his post-pardon written statement furnished to the Judiciary Committee of the United States House of Representatives on October 17, 1974.[7] However, the reference related only to the portion of Burdick that supported the proposition that the Constitution does not limit the pardon power to cases of convicted offenders or even indicted offenders.[7][8]

Justice Joseph McKenna delivered the opinion of the Court in favor of Burdick. The Court ruled Burdick was entitled to reject the pardon for a number of reasons, including the implicit admission of guilt and possibly objectionable terms contained in a conditional pardon. As Burdick was entitled to reject the pardon, he was also entitled to assert his right against self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment.

Although theIn Loranc Supreme Court's opinion stated that a pardon carries "an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it,"[2] this was part of the Court's dictum for the case.[4] Whether the acceptance of a pardon constitutes an admission of guilt by the recipient is disputed. e v. Commandant, USDB (2021) the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that "there is no confession and Lorance does not otherwise lose his right to petition for habeas corpus relief for his court-martial conviction and sentence. The case was remanded for further action not inconsistent with the court’s opinion."[5]

Great work, 55. I will personally drive you to TB one time for that!

Back to the question, what CRIME is Milley confessing guilt? What crime is Fauci confessing guilt? What crime is the Biden crime family confessing guilt? J6 committee ... what crime?

The more you look at these pardons, you have to think one of the 20yo staffers conjured them up. They are not backed by legal precedent.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Tell 'em, Mr. Musk.

 

[ukalum1988]

Coast Guard commandant terminated over border lapses, recruitment, DEI focus: official

The commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard has been terminated amid border, recruitment concerns, "erosion of trust," a senior DHS official confirmed to Fox News.

www.foxnews.com

Leave it to Harris-Biden administration to tolerate / reward failure. Glad to see people being held accountable.

EDIT: Already been posted twice. Lots going on....

 

[Catman100]

There are no Biden supporters. Only Trump haters.

LMAO you say that now after Biden shit the bed for 4 years.
Dude, you and your TDS need to just take the L and post less.
You really do.

 

[trueblujr2]

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That's scary right there, but shows he's aligned with the Globalist elites. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the Whitehouse.

 

[trueblujr2]

You knew the birthright issue was going to end up in the courts:

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The Doge lawsuit should be tossed post haste. The ones filing that lawsuit have to be filing in an effort to protect their grift.

 

[mdlUK.1]

 

[Lost In FL]

That's scary right there, but shows he's aligned with the Globalist elites. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the Whitehouse.

yea, that video will not age well over the next 4 years.

 

[Lost In FL]

so the lefty spew has lessened ... is the View on or something?

 

[JumperJack]

 

[sambowieshin]

LMAO you say that now after Biden shit the bed for 4 years.
Dude, you and your TDS need to just take the L and post less.
You really do.

Biden had 4 straight years of job growth, low unemployment, record stock growth, good GDP growth, and no new wars involving deployment of US soldiers.
But you paid a dollar more for eggs.
We are all getting ready to take an L.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

I am only concerned with the ones pardoned for macing, assaulting, and beating cops over the head with poles and fire extinguishers.
You know ... The criminal ones you are a fan boy of.

Lmao that NEVER even happened! Have any video evidence of this?! Lulz I’ll wait….