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POLITICAL THREAD

How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
It’s amazing that they ALL use the exact same talking points. “Why even have elections if you don’t believe in them?”

You sound exactly like every other liberal to jump in this thread (which is why we think you are a retread). It’s why I HOPE you are a retread. I can’t imagine a world where so many people are brainwashed/programmed to think *exactly* the same way all the time.

I’ve never heard a good reason as to why the vote counting stopped in every swing state at the same time just to have 100% pro Biden ballots dumped right after it was stopped.

According to bigmichelle, I mean bigmike, we shouldn’t question that and all our faith in elections should be rock solid….or else why even bother with them.

I loathe these people.
It’s a positive feedback loop for both sides. You only acknowledge things that reaffirm your beliefs and same as my side. I’m not so bad, though. We should all catch a game together and humanize one another. I’m not that bad.
 
Lost in all the white noise today is the fact that we're STILL waiting for the answer to this question:

Why should we ever elect another Democrat?

Is it their expert handling of the economy? Foreign affairs? Domestic affairs (immigration, etc)? Are they honest?
I think there needs to be drastic prison reform, especially for nonviolent offenders. Legalizing marijuana and everything that goes with that. I believe that welfare programs are more robust under democrats, and finally I think that corporations are taxed and workers benefit more under democrats.
 
If republicans keep pushing this nonsense about the 2020 election, we should just quit having elections.

Republicans paid for over 500 lawyers across the swing states ready to pounce as soon as any shenanigans started up and many were quite busy.

They just need to be secured as much as can be at least. There’s simple ways to do it that even an elementary student could figure out. I’ll let you guess which side opposes it. Pretty obvious why.
 
Republicans paid for over 500 lawyers across the swing states ready to pounce as soon as any shenanigans started up and many were quite busy.

They just need to be secured as much as can be at least. There’s simple ways to do it that even an elementary student could figure out. I’ll let you guess which side opposes it. Pretty obvious why.
Yawn. I don't think that the Democratic party as a whole is trying to steal an election, nor do I think they believe that Republicans are. They say things to appease the gullible and more extreme lefties, but I don't think for a second that they believe that republicans are successfully suppressing the voters.
 
So did they cheat in 16? 12? 22? There's been plenty to refute most if not all of the claims, specifically the ones from 2000 mules. The unfortunate thing is that so many of you guys also refuse to believe the news.

Private prisons should absolutely been dealt with. People should not benefit from the crimes of others.

They cannot conduct charities in the state of NY, but they've not been too bad. By familial, Kushner's dad was pardoned for fraud? Plenty of Trump's inner circle also received pardons, but I used the wrong word and I apologize.
How about Hillary's sista Huma Abedein who is Married to Anthony Weiner. Weiner texted pictures of his junk (pedophile) to a 15yo and is now a convicted sex offender.

If you really want to hold Trump accountable for his daughters husbands father...then you got Weiner problems bro.
 
How about Hillary's sista Huma Abedein who is Married to Anthony Weiner. Weiner texted pictures of his junk (pedophile) to a 15yo and is now a convicted sex offender.

If you really want to hold Trump accountable for his daughters husbands father...then you got Weiner problems bro.
I'm on board! Seems like a no brainer.
 
Cut government spending and bring grocery prices down and you'll be in power for a generation or longer.

The Georgia charges are pretty cut and dry. I would also say that the NARA charges are also sound. Comer sniffed around the Bidens for years and what arose? I'm totally fine persecuting democrats, but let's not act like Trump and company are innocent.
Here's the thing about these pardon...he didn't just say, "i can't let my only son go to jail" most ppl would absolutely understand that. Instead he attacked the judicial system, said it was politicized, etc. I've been reliably told by ppl like @sambowieshin that's a threat to democracy and infact fascism.

Also, have fun:




But anyway, the bidens are corrupt opportunist scum bags, they always have been.
 
How about Hillary's sista Huma Abedein who is Married to Anthony Weiner. Weiner texted pictures of his junk (pedophile) to a 15yo and is now a convicted sex offender.

If you really want to hold Trump accountable for his daughters husbands father...then you got Weiner problems bro.


She divorced Weiner and married George Soros’ son.
 
Point stands.


Heritage foundation has only found a handful of illegal voters since 1986. There's just too many moving parts and too many eyes for widespread fraud. I think that it was just more likely that voters had Trump fatigue in 2020 and fairly or unfairly extrapolated the things they were dealing with Covid (or the paranoia of it) and wanted change.

Republicans are set up for future successes if they can continue looking forward and not back. Fix the economy, fix the prices we're paying at the stores, close the border, and any other policy that was ran on and try to run it back in 26.
You believe 10 or 15 million people hated Trump in 2020 but didn’t hate him enough to show up in 2024?

Laughable.
 
Illegal aliens are registered to vote in corrupt left wing democrat shit holes, and the heritage foundation found only a few instances of those corrupt shit holes enforcing the law and arresting illegal aliens who voted?

I’m shocked. Certainly evidence that illegal aliens, or democrats using their registrations, aren’t voting illegally.

There’s zero reason for an illegal alien to be registered to vote, regardless of home many time they are arrested in the democrat shit holes that want them voting.
 
So why are you crying foul this year again? Part of the success of this country is trust in institution foundations. If you never trust another election again, what is the point of having them?
Why would anybody trust institutions that don’t want to use the most trustworthy methods of operation?

Can you answer that?
 
Point stands.


Heritage foundation has only found a handful of illegal voters since 1986. There's just too many moving parts and too many eyes for widespread fraud. I think that it was just more likely that voters had Trump fatigue in 2020 and fairly or unfairly extrapolated the things they were dealing with Covid (or the paranoia of it) and wanted change.

Republicans are set up for future successes if they can continue looking forward and not back. Fix the economy, fix the prices we're paying at the stores, close the border, and any other policy that was ran on and try to run it back in 26.
You should check out the Carter-Baker commission and what they say about absentee (mail-in) voter fraud and voter ID laws.

2020 was fishy as hell. Come on, you can say it.
 
Here's the thing about these pardon...he didn't just say, "i can't let my only son go to jail" most ppl would absolutely understand that. Instead he attacked the judicial system, said it was politicized, etc. I've been reliably told by ppl like @sambowieshin that's a threat to democracy and infact fascism.

Also, have fun:




But anyway, the bidens are corrupt opportunist scum bags, they always have been.
Was anyone charged for Comer's investigation? I get why people bring up Comey because people did face charges for that, but did Trump? It's all political theater done on both sides and I don't think our democracy is at risk from a decision done by a politician, but rather the distrust sewn into both sides. If Trump opens up an investigation, I just hope that it is fruitful and not more performance acts.
You believe 10 or 15 million people hated Trump in 2020 but didn’t hate him enough to show up in 2024?

Laughable.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people went T,B,T the last three elections. I know people hate Trump, but I think that it is overblown. Also looks like a lot of those votes absent came from solidly blue states.
Illegal aliens are registered to vote in corrupt left wing democrat shit holes, and the heritage foundation found only a few instances of those corrupt shit holes enforcing the law and arresting illegal aliens who voted?

I’m shocked. Certainly evidence that illegal aliens, or democrats using their registrations, aren’t voting illegally.

There’s zero reason for an illegal alien to be registered to vote, regardless of home many time they are arrested in the democrat shit holes that want them voting.
Perhaps that is the case, but I just don't see people illegally sticking their neck out to vote in an election when they future of their being is in question in this country. We are also seeing many 2nd generation spanish speaking americans vote red. I wouldn't expect those results from people being coerced into voting dem.
Why would anybody trust institutions that don’t want to use the most trustworthy methods of operation?

Can you answer that?
My grandma used to go on top of Foster mountain and get drunks to vote republican for pints of vodka. Could there be some shadiness going on in elections? Absolutely, but I just don't believe those things are happening at the presidential level. Too many eyes and the coordination required would be James Bond villain good. Hell, democrats as a whole cannot agree with one another, but they are able come together and cheat the president? I just find it unlikely.
 
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Yawn. I don't think that the Democratic party as a whole is trying to steal an election, nor do I think they believe that Republicans are. They say things to appease the gullible and more extreme lefties, but I don't think for a second that they believe that republicans are successfully suppressing the voters.

Plenty of evidence out there. Plenty has been posted here. Enough that can sway an election.

I’ll give you the benefit of doubt and just chalk it up to bad trolling at this point.
 
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/eyeroll

If you dig into any political family, you're going to fine some sketchy behavior.
Let's not act like Trump is innocent in familial shenanigans

If republicans keep pushing this nonsense about the 2020 election, we should just quit having elections.
I mean yeah. My guy (35) was with Marilyn Monroe.

COUNTERPOINT: It was Marilyn Monroe
 
In WW2, the Germans used GS as guards because they were vocal. IE Come near that fence and I will eat you. They used boxers for hunting snipers and black marketeers because they were not vocal. IE OMG what is that standing on my chest with it's teeth on my throat. Both were actually drafted in to the German army. If you dog had pups, the army got the pick of the litter.
 
You should check out the Carter-Baker commission and what they say about absentee (mail-in) voter fraud and voter ID laws.

2020 was fishy as hell. Come on, you can say it.
Found a 35 page document and slowly getting through it. I did skip to the mail-in. To start, this was in the introduction and I am totally in agreement.

• A national system to connect state and local voter registration lists
• Voter identification based on a universally available REAL ID card
• Policies to improve voter access for all communities, as well as innovations like votecenters and voter information lookup sites
• Stronger efforts to combat fraud, especially in absentee voting
• Auditable paper backups for all voting technology

Pass any laws to ensure the above statements.

Chapin, citing the Carter-Baker report’s focus on election integrity, turned theconversation to the panelists’ experiences with safeguards for the vote-by-mail processes.Patrick said that there are safeguards in place when citizens initially register to vote that Conference Report — The Carter-Baker Commission: 16 Years Later12ensure they are a “true and live and accurate person” and that everyone who receives a ballot is authenticated against a list that has these safeguards in place.Miller agreed, adding there is more security built into the mail balloting process than in thein-person process. She also pointed out that the existing penalties for fraud are quite high.Wyman discussed advances in technology intended to help secure the process and provide“tools in the toolbox” for elections officials seeking to guarantee transparency and accountability. Wyman stressed the need to strengthen security measures already in place and to address the roles of accountability and reconciliation.
Plenty of evidence out there. Plenty has been posted here. Enough that can sway an election.

I’ll give you the benefit of doubt and just chalk it up to bad trolling at this point.
I swear I am not trolling. I just believe that if there was enough to sway an election, folks like AP, BBC, Reuters, NPR, etc. would be all over it and there just isn't anything out there on those sites that are addressing it. I get the hesitancy of mainstream media, especially when they are not covering your perceived notions, but I just don't see groundbreaking evidence that isn't anecdotal. I had never heard of the Carter-Baker report before this conversation and I am interested in reading more about it. I would really like to see a system where democrats and republicans both believe in the validity of it.
 
Perhaps that is the case, but I just don't see people illegally sticking their neck out to vote in an election when they future of their being is in question in this country. We are also seeing many 2nd generation spanish speaking americans vote red. I wouldn't expect those results from people being coerced into voting dem.

Illegal aliens showing up to vote isn’t the problem.

Illegal aliens, nonresidents, dead people, etc. being on the voter rolls so ballots can be printed and dropped in unsupervised drop boxes or other locations is the problem.

Why do you think democrats fight so hard against cleaning up the voter registrations, limiting unsecured mail in voting, securing drop boxes, etc.

There is absolutely no reason anyone should oppose having 100% accurate voter registers in every jurisdiction of the US. The only reason you’d oppose it is if you support fraud.
 
Illegal aliens showing up to vote isn’t the problem.

Illegal aliens, nonresidents, dead people, etc. being on the voter rolls so ballots can be printed and dropped in unsupervised drop boxes or other locations is the problem.

Why do you think democrats fight so hard against cleaning up the voter registrations, limiting unsecured mail in voting, securing drop boxes, etc.

There is absolutely no reason anyone should oppose having 100% accurate voter registers in every jurisdiction of the US. The only reason you’d oppose it is if you support fraud.
Honestly? I just assume that it is red meat for the base. You're not going to ever hear me complain about this, even if the occasional "real" person is affected. There's always plenty of time to check your status before an election.
 
I think there needs to be drastic prison reform, especially for nonviolent offenders. Legalizing marijuana and everything that goes with that. I believe that welfare programs are more robust under democrats, and finally I think that corporations are taxed and workers benefit more under democrats.
Welfare programs are certainly more robust, especially for the illegal aliens coming here.
Taxing corporations slows their growth and expansion thus harming workers and would be new hires.
I like to proofread before I send to insure I am not saying foolish things.
I recommend it.
 
Welfare programs are certainly more robust, especially for the illegal aliens coming here.
Taxing corporations slows their growth and expansion thus harming workers and would be new hires.
I like to proofread before I send to insure I am not saying foolish things.
I recommend it.
It's not a perfect system. I don't think either side has it 100%.

I would totally be for a scenario where illegals (especially felons) are uprooted enmasse and the welfare programs protect our most vulnerable.

I'd be fine leaving taxes alone if we could prevent stock buybacks, congress insider trading. I have a huge problem with the wealth gap being higher now than the guilded age and this neoliberalism economy just isn't cutting it for some.

I shoot from the hip a lot. Its the ADHD, but I mean well and learning a lot from conversations held here. I enjoyed lurking, but I do enjoying posting, much to the chagrin of others.
 
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