POLITICAL THREAD

[sambowieshin]

That may well be, but you spend 100 percent of your time amplifying and obsessing over the "violence" of only ONE of them. To deny that is just lying to yourself.

Actually.....I am only responding to those on here that assert Dems are the only ones committing political violence. It may seem like I am only focused on one side, but that is not the case. I am only pointing out the hypocrisy of pointing fingers in one direction on this topic. There is plenty of blame to be had on both sides. I have stated that multiple times.
Dems committed tons of violence during the BLM riots. They have made two attempts on Trump's life. They have done plenty.
But Pubs are guilty as well. January 6th...Paul Pelosi.....Charlottesville etc.
Hell, Trump called for the execution of one of his generals. That is insane.
Just don't understand why folks can't see that all violence is unacceptable regardless of which political party you lean toward.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Weird. Someone inciting a mob doesn't usually call in the National Guard to stop the violence of the mob they incited.
Kinda like Trump never called for help during the Jan 6th riot. He just watched it unfold on his TV and DID NOTHING for hours.

Minnesota governor fully mobilizes state's National Guard

The Minnesota National Guard said this marks the first time it's been fully mobilized since World War II.

www.cbsnews.com

Pence called for the National Guard on Jan. 6th not the F'er that incited the riot.

Pence — not Trump — asked Guard troops to help defend Capitol on Jan. 6, panel says

The accusation was among multiple findings from the panel charged with investigating the lead-up and response to the attempted insurrection.

www.militarytimes.com

How long did it take for Walz to call the NG?

Nancy Pelosi Contradicts Her Own Narrative of January 6, HBO Footage Shows

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on House Administration

cha.house.gov

 

[cole854]

It was a single example of a similarly popular politician. Just going to pivot to Obama because you’re triggered by seeing his name and concede everything about cult-like Trump merch?

If Trump merchandise is cult-like....then what do you call Obama's?

https://www.sj-r.com/story/news/2009/01/16/obama-merchandise-far-from-business/48860579007/

 

[Dionysus444]

sam,

You (and your ilk) are the very definition of brainwashed. You and Dion and mere steps away from memorizing a song book and getting fitted for brown shirts. THAT is how out of touch with reality you all are. You all have gone all in on "The Party", and yet, you all think it is somehow preserving your individual liberties and freedoms. It is profoundly sad. I mean that from the bottom of my heart. If you all get your way, you'll end up hanging yourself with the noose that YOU tied. I wouldn't presume to guess what happened to you all when you were youngsters that set you on this path, but I'll continue to hope that you wake up before it is too late.

Remind us again which side is responsible for revoking one of our constitutional rights for the first time in American history?

 

[HymanKaplan]

Actually.....I am only responding to those on here that assert Dems are the only ones committing political violence. It may seem like I am only focused on one side, but that is not the case. I am only pointing out the hypocrisy of pointing fingers in one direction on this topic. There is plenty of blame to be had on both sides. I have stated that multiple times.
Dems committed tons of violence during the BLM riots. They have made two attempts on Trump's life. They have done plenty.
But Pubs are guilty as well. January 6th...Paul Pelosi.....Charlottesville etc.
Hell, Trump called for the execution of one of his generals. That is insane.
Just don't understand why folks can't see that all violence is unacceptable regardless of which political party you lean toward.

The first step in getting better, is to admit you have a problem.

 

[sambowieshin]

The first step in getting better, is to admit you have a problem.

The second and most important step is to change "you" to "we".

 

[HymanKaplan]

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Remind us again which side is responsible for revoking one of our constitutional rights for the first time in American history?

Let's say I was to theoretically GRANT you that "one" (your words) instance, that is a grain of sand on a beach when objectively compared to the plans that the jack booted fascist left has in mind.

 

[HymanKaplan]

The second and most important step is to change "you" to "we".

After the election is over, and tempers are lowered, I'd be more than willing to help you "develop" your sense of humor. I can't promise miracles; your ceiling is limited, but I CAN make you better. At the end of the day though, we can only work with "What god gave you."

 

[AustinTXCat]

Never wanna hear another GD word about MAGA threats to national security again.

Trial date set for man accused of trying to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh

A trial is scheduled to start in June 2025 for a California man charged with trying to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh at his home in a suburb of Washington, D.C.

apnews.com

 

[sambowieshin]

Sam, as @HymanKaplan so eloquently states, you and your ilk (TDS sufferers) are so close to jumping off the ledge. I'm totally serious.

It appears Democrats have a greater propensity for violence against MAGA than the other way around. January 6 was but a blip. On the other hand, "Summer of Love 2020" caused real damage for many months.

Not really. I would actually say that you are comparing a Severe short term violence issue vs a Chronic long term issue.....
BLM was bad. No doubt about it. But the MAGA madness is much more insidious and impactful long term on our country. The BLM movement was hyper focused on one major issue that has resolved itself in most instances across the country with police reforms.
The MAGA movement encompasses ALL aspects of society. It is involved and chipping away at people's medical decisions, their personal bodily autonomy, our election system, our court system, our FBI, our military, our government, our schools, our scientists, our medical system, our neighbors who have different lifestyles or political beliefs....basically every aspect of our society is under attack from MAGA.
That would be fine if the attacks were grounded in reality and involved practical solutions but that is not the case.
The solutions are extreme and often lean toward fascism.

 

[sambowieshin]

After the election is over, and tempers are lowered, I'd be more than willing to help you "develop" your sense of humor. I can't promise miracles; your ceiling is limited, but I CAN make you better. At the end of the day though, we can only work with "What god gave you."

I know all about that. Worked in special ed for decades. It prepared me well for this message board.
"I drink.....therefore I am." SocraTDS

 

[cole854]

Remind us again which side is responsible for revoking one of our constitutional rights for the first time in American history?

Nothing was revoked...nothing was taken away.

 

[HymanKaplan]

Not really. I would actually say that you are comparing a Severe short term violence issue vs a Chronic long term issue.....
BLM was bad. No doubt about it. But the MAGA madness is much more insidious and impactful long term on our country. The BLM movement was hyper focused on one major issue that has resolved itself in most instances across the country with police reforms.
The MAGA movement encompasses ALL aspects of society. It is involved and chipping away at people's medical decisions, their personal bodily autonomy, our election system, our court system, our FBI, our military, our government, our schools, our scientists, our medical system, our neighbors who have different lifestyles or political beliefs....basically every aspect of our society is under attack from MAGA.
That would be fine if the attacks were grounded in reality and involved practical solutions but that is not the case.
The solutions are extreme and often lean toward fascism.

You are woefully uninformed about the left vs. the right with respect to politically and racially motivated violence. Which is odd, because I've provided you with countless resources to help you learn.

 

[HymanKaplan]

I know all about that. Worked in special ed for decades. It prepared me well for this message board.
"I drink.....therefore I am." SocraTDS

It's like having to sit through a D list Borscht belt comedian in the Catskills...

(Is this thing on? try the veal...)

 

[Dionysus444]

If Trump merchandise is cult-like....then what do you call Obama's?

https://www.sj-r.com/story/news/2009/01/16/obama-merchandise-far-from-business/48860579007/

Yes, if there had been Obama flags flying from boats everywhere you looked it would have been extremely culty. That’s exactly the comparison I was making, thank you.

 

[HymanKaplan]

Yes, if there had been Obama flags flying from boats everywhere you looked it would have been extremely culty. That’s exactly the comparison I was making, thank you.

LOL - Metaphorically speaking, you just snuck up behind you, and brained yourself in the back of the head with a rolling pin.

 

[trueblujr2]

Great questions. You’re getting there. Now, what are the answers?

I'm not understanding this silly game you're playing. How about you answer the questions I asked you? Are you going to tell me it's because they have Brown skin and therefore are perceived as black? Obama is obviously light skinned and appears bi-racial, which he is. Kamala looks more indian than black and that's because she has far more of it in her. regardless, they need to stop pandering themselves as the "Black" candidates to win votes. It's enough that they are the first POC's to be president, but Kamala Indian/Jamaican/Irish is not winning her votes with those in the black community who see's through that crap.

 

[HymanKaplan]

We'd better shut this down for a bit, because Mike McD is getting off work soon, and I can't listen to another one of his lectures about feeding the communists on here. 😆

 

[trueblujr2]

sam,

You (and your ilk) are the very definition of brainwashed. You and Dion and mere steps away from memorizing a song book and getting fitted for brown shirts. THAT is how out of touch with reality you all are. You all have gone all in on "The Party", and yet, you all think it is somehow preserving your individual liberties and freedoms. It is profoundly sad. I mean that from the bottom of my heart. If you all get your way, you'll end up hanging yourself with the noose that YOU tied. I wouldn't presume to guess what happened to you all when you were youngsters that set you on this path, but I'll continue to hope that you wake up before it is too late.

They are grossly naive to the bigger picture and the globalist agenda that's really at play here.

 

[cole854]

Yes, if there had been Obama flags flying from boats everywhere you looked it would have been extremely culty. That’s exactly the comparison I was making, thank you.

So we're talking flags on boats only now....not the multi-millions in sales of Obama merchandise? Sorry...can't keep up w/ your flip flopping. Also, I don't think Obama supporters have boats because they aren't free.

 

[Dionysus444]

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Let's say I was to theoretically GRANT you that "one" (your words) instance, that is a grain of sand on a beach when objectively compared to the plans that the jack booted fascist left has in mind.

You heard it here first folks. Revoking our constitutional rights “is a grain of sand on a beach”. They do not care about our American rights and freedoms. They will strip them from you and laugh.

 

[sambowieshin]

You are woefully uninformed about the left vs. the right with respect to politically and racially motivated violence. Which is odd, because I've provided you with countless resources to help you learn.

Again, if you can't open your eyes to the violence and violent rhetoric committed by both political parties.... this is a futile conversation that goes nowhere.
Thought you'd have more appreciation for the Socrates quote twist. 😟

 

[Dionysus444]

So we're talking flags on boats only now....not the multi-millions in sales of Obama merchandise? Sorry...can't keep up w/ your flip flopping.

There is absolutely no comparison between the level of Trump and Obama merch. That is obvious to even the most casual observer. You’re highlighting your own absurdity by suggesting such

 

[Dionysus444]

Nothing was revoked...nothing was taken away.

Yes, our constitutional right to abortion was. That is a fact.

 

[cole854]

There is absolutely no comparison between the level of Trump and Obama merch. That is obvious to even the most casual observer. You’re highlighting your own absurdity by suggesting such

I simply provided an article which listed the millions in sales from 2009....15 years ago. What would that equate to today? What did you state other than assumptions and opinions?

 

[HymanKaplan]

There is absolutely no comparison between the level of Trump and Obama merch. That is obvious to even the most casual observer. You’re highlighting your own absurdity by suggesting such

The primary distinction is that people actually WANT to purchase Trump marketing, where as, with respect to Obama, his propaganda was distributed (with a funnel and feeding tube if needed), free of charge by the politburo. Are you done pissing up a rope yet?

 

[mdlUK.1]

Sam, I'll leave this right here. Your team = completely unhinged.

Man gets 14 months in prison for threat to U.S. Supreme Court's Roberts.​

More to come. Stay tuned.

Will Schumer be next? He threatened TWO Supreme Court justices.

 

[cole854]

Yes, our constitutional right to abortion was. That is a fact.

Nope...abortions are still legal today in the states that have VOTED to allow it, and there are more abortions performed than before RvW was overturned by a VOTE.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Will Schumer be next? He threatened TWO Supreme Court justices.

So did Obama.

 

[HymanKaplan]

Will Schumer be next? He threatened TWO Supreme Court justices.

I'd love to see a reality show where Schumer, Pelosi, and McConnell have to try and solve one of those children's shape and opening type puzzles. Not that they could accomplish it, but it would be hilarious watching them try.

 

[HymanKaplan]

Nope...abortions are still legal today in the states that have VOTED to allow it, and there are more abortions performed than before RvW was overturned by a VOTE.

I've told them this repeatedly, but those foil hats are a lot more formidable than I had anticipated.

 

[Dionysus444]

I'm not understanding this silly game you're playing. How about you answer the questions I asked you? Are you going to tell me it's because they have Brown skin and therefore are perceived as black? Obama is obviously light skinned and appears bi-racial, which he is. Kamala looks more indian than black and that's because she has far more of it in her. regardless, they need to stop pandering themselves as the "Black" candidates to win votes. It's enough that they are the first POC's to be president, but Kamala Indian/Jamaican/Irish is not winning her votes with those in the black community who see's through that crap.

Yes, it's because they have darker skin. Black and white are completely made-up things that only exist in the minds of society, the people who hold those views. Obama is Black and not white, even when as you said he's part both, because white only exists as a distinction from the dark 'other'. He can't be 'white' because he's 'black'. All of these things are just social constructs invented by 'white' people to oppress.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Not really. I would actually say that you are comparing a Severe short term violence issue vs a Chronic long term issue.....

Severe short term violence issue vs a Chronic long term issue.? Holy shit, are you for real?

Congressional Baseball Game: 2017

Threats against SCOTUS Justice Kavanaugh 2022

Threat against SCOTUS Chief Justice Roberts 2023

2x Trump Assassination attempts, 2024

From CNN:

"As the party in power, 16 Democrats received threats during Obama’s second term. This increased 169% with 43 GOP lawmakers threatened under Trump."

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/07/politics/threats-us-public-officials-democracy-invs/index.html

TDS, man. TDS.

 

[HymanKaplan]

Nope...abortions are still legal today in the states that have VOTED to allow it, and there are more abortions performed than before RvW was overturned by a VOTE.

Raise the shields. Rape/incest post inbound...

 

[Bill Cosby]

Yes, our constitutional right to abortion was. That is a fact.

Rights are not granted by the constitution. The constitution bars the government from infringing upon your rights. Read a book.

 

[cole854]

Raise the shields. Rape/incest post inbound...

Yep, and it probably took place on Jan 6th, while the rapist was waving a Trump flag.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Trump Campaign Details “Inflammatory, Violent Rhetoric” Used Against Former President

Donald Trump’s campaign released a damning email to supporters on Monday, Sept. 16 highlighting more than 50 instances where Democrats have labeled him a threat to democracy. The former president w…

wokespy.com

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

Secret Service admits golf course wasn’t searched before Trump assassination attempt

Ryan Wesley Routh, 58, allegedly set up a sniper’s nest on the edge of Trump International West Palm Beach and hid there undetected for nearly 12 hours before Trump, 78, teed off on Sunday af…

nypost.com

I took a look at the golf course earlier today on Google maps/street view. Based it on something I saw in an article where they showed where this guy was...kind of behind the 6th hole (dogleg) and Trump was on the 5th. If that was correct...I can't believe that in 12 hours this guy wasn't seen. Pretty much an intersection of two major streets. So lots of traffic I would think. Looks like there's only a few feet between the sidewalk and the chain link fence.

 

[HymanKaplan]

Yes, it's because they have darker skin. Black and white are completely made-up things that only exist in the minds of society, the people who hold those views. Obama is Black and not white, even when as you said he's part both, because white only exists as a distinction from the dark 'other'. He can't be 'white' because he's 'black'. All of these things are just social constructs invented by 'white' people to oppress.

 

[Dionysus444]

I simply provided an article which listed the millions in sales from 2009....15 years ago. What would that equate to today? What did you state other than assumptions and opinions?

I can link multiple articles listing the tens of millions Trump himself has made off of merch, let alone the millions in third-party sales, but you'll just say fake news like you do every other time something about Trump's financials are linked. You cannot seriously be arguing there's more Obama merch than Trump merch.