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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
I agree with your last point - the parent should definitely be charged and I like what GA is doing. I also find it a little disturbing that a poster who was an educator (has Sam said he was a special ed educator?) uses the word "retard" on here regularly. My son has a learning disability and it is BS for people to use that word.

But on to the main point - I wonder if there is a way to support a middle ground on the 2A issue you flag above - if the mentally ill kid is suspected of making a credible threat, could the guns be taken away for a period? In other words, the guns are not taken away just because the kid is mentally ill, but because he/she has threatened violence with guns.
No, because depending on who's in charge, that "Period" could be indefinite and once those guns are taken, good luck getting them back, especially under this admin.

Require the guns be locked away, OK, require regular mental health evaluations and treatment for the child. or in the event they make credible threats of terrorism or violence on Social Media or by any other means, commit them to a guarded mental health facility under lock and key.
 
I mean, is that democracy? Wanting illegals to vote? Is that democracy, not vetting illegals? Is that democracy, open borders? Is that democracy, banning free speech? Is that democracy, health care and Medicare for illegals? Is that democracy, drivers licenses for illegals? Is that democracy, replacing American jobs with illegals? Is that democracy, housing illegals over the American Veterans and homeless? Is that democracy, using the legal system to go after your political opponent? Is that democracy, lying about your political opponent being in with Russia? Is that democracy, not properly protecting a Presidential candidate? Is that democracy, borrowing so much money for stupid stuff it causes inflation? Is that democracy, flying thousands upon thousands into the country from other countries secretly? Is that democracy, throwing out the President running for reelection and appointing someone that has not been voted for? Is that democracy, not picking the best persons for jobs but pick them according to race and gender? Is that democracy, bailing out arsonists? Is that democracy, defunding police so we aren't as safe anymore? Is that democracy, attacking a religion? Is that democracy, banning the freedom to bear arms? Is that democracy, killing living babies that are human beings?

Shall we continue?
Well it is "Democracy" to them. What it's not is America being "Guaranteed a Republican form of Government" as laid out in our Constitution. It is not a Constitutional Republic.
 
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That is not Joe Biden. That is not reality.

This is Donald Trump. This is reality....sadly.
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Tougher background checks that restrict access to purchasing AR15s if you have a mentally ill teen in your home.
Red flag laws that allow the temporary removal of those guns if a judge, police, therapist and school judge the child a danger.


So in your authoritarian view...a parents right to own a gun ceases if he is judged to have a mentally ill teen in his home. Do you really believe that?

How about if its a tranny kid, by definition mentally ill, should that parent lose his 2nd amendment rights? Are there other rights that you support taking away if there is a mentally ill person in the home? How about a "retard" using your word?

I kinda like doing what GA looks to be doing. JAIL the parent who does not take measures to secure his guns (assuming he didnt) after the authorities have paid you a visit and told you to do so. Sue the parent into the dirt. Take his house, car everything...if a court and a jury of his peers finds him negligent and liable.
You're absolutist, insane guns over kids mentality is one of the many reasons why Republicans are gonna lose this November.
I am not even gonna try to respond to those insane straw man arguments.
 
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Some us us realize it’s a mental health issue, not a gun issue. That’s why I’m paying a shit load of money annually for a god damn preschool ant a private school and avoiding the public school system you lunatics have your claws in.

I feel for the families that don’t have the means.

But I think I’m doing far more to protect my son by getting him away from the school system the lunatic lefties have their grips in, than anyone would ever be doing by taking guns away from law abiding Americans.

You’ve designed a system to produce these results, and want to use that as an excuse to ban guns.
Yeah it’s amazing that the guns are killing people and not the person pulling the trigger. In the 80’s students would drive to school with their rifle mounted in the rear window and a knife in their pocket. We have just become a society with very few morals.
 
Absolutely not. It is not up to the US to drive him out of a non NATO territory. It's up to Ukraine to do that....with some help with military supplies.
It was an acceptable stalemate at the time. But once Putin marched his army west and started the first massive land war in Europe since WW2 we had to get involved.
Putin mistakenly underestimated Biden and NATO resolve in doing that.

Yeah, real brave and lots of resolve to write a bunch of checks with other people's money.

Village Idiot.
 
Well it is "Democracy" to them. What it's not is America being "Guarenteed a Republican form of Government" as laid out in our Constitution. It is not a Constitutional Republic.
So funny all you hear them saying is democracy and freedom and everything they stand for is not that and everything Trump stands for is that. Shows how they rely on the ignorant so much to back them.
 
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I agree with your last point - the parent should definitely be charged and I like what GA is doing. I also find it a little disturbing that a poster who was an educator (has Sam said he was a special ed educator?) uses the word "retard" on here regularly. My son has a learning disability and it is BS for people to use that word.

But on to the main point - I wonder if there is a way to support a middle ground on the 2A issue you flag above - if the mentally ill kid is suspected of making a credible threat, could the guns be taken away for a period? In other words, the guns are not taken away just because the kid is mentally ill, but because he/she has threatened violence with guns.

Why can't we just remove the mentally ill kid?

Seems much smarter.

Take the parents guns? Kid will get one somewhere anyway.
 
It’s not just the illegal, it’s their offspring who then gets to be a citizen through birthright citizenship which is insane.

The west has been targeted for third world migration for nefarious purposes and it’s working. The pathetic part are the useful idiots who support it.
This is the prevailing sentiment of the MAGA movement. You people who try to make some illegal/legal distinction are a disingenuous minority. It's about being anti-"third world", everything else is ad hoc rationalization.
For Globalization and the destruction of Western culture.
See? All about defendin' the whites. MAGA is a white pointy hood.
 
You're absolutist, insane guns over kids mentality is one of the many reasons why Republicans are gonna lose this November.
I am not even gonna try to respond to those insane straw man arguments.

Where do you draw the line at taking away constitutional protections from law abiding individuals because some people behave irresponsibly?

For example, far more damage has been done to this country by uneducated irresponsible people voting incorrectly than could ever be done by people with guns. For the good of the country, shouldn’t we eliminate voting so crazy people who vote irresponsibly can’t negatively impact the country?
 
Than Hillary Clinton, wife of Bill Clinton, and Joseph Robinette Biden Jr, Obama's VP, two of the biggest fixtures of neoliberalism over decades? Are you insane? Do you understand any political theory? Know anything about the American political spectrum and modern geopolitics in general? Probably not, I don't know why I assume, it's only the political thread for crying out loud.
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I said “god given” not “God” given. You are endowed with certain inalienable rights by your creator. Whether that’s Allah, the Christian God, the universe, etc.

I think there’s a lot to be learned and found in this world without limiting your understanding to what’s printed in the Bible, regardless of what version you’re using.
So I can count on you to point this out to all the 'America is a Christian country' people next time? Thank you, doing the Lord's work.
 
I agree with your last point - the parent should definitely be charged and I like what GA is doing. I also find it a little disturbing that a poster who was an educator (has Sam said he was a special ed educator?) uses the word "retard" on here regularly. My son has a learning disability and it is BS for people to use that word.
Rightwingers say it all the time, but you call out the one nonrightwinger who does and never any of them. Why?
 
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