It wasn't legal under the Electoral Count Act either. Didn't stop Trump. She could just do it despite the law, exactly like he asked Pence to. And we have no idea what would happen then. Other than a constitutional crisis.
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We're both Americans too. Almost like arbitrary lines on a map make arbitrary groupings, huh?
He's allowed to say almost whatever tf he wants. What he's not allowed to do, however, is organize fake electors from swing states to get his VP to unilaterally acknowledge them and just gavel him president after he lost the election. Unless you want Kamala doing the same.
It's an emotional manipulation. It's brainwashing bypassing any thinking.
You are voting for the same policy which has created the problems, expecting it to fix them; the definition of insanity. But it feels good.
Go forth and accomplish great things as a Hurricane, young lady.
This is an actual coup btw, not the hare brained conspiracy theory narrative that is the media/dem spin on jan 6 which resulted in nothing but the orderly transfer of power everyone not sharing in your paranoid delusions knew was going to occur.
It wasn’t exactly “Julius Caesar” in Rehoboth Beach. But it was a tectonic shift and, of course, there were going to be serious reverberations. Even though it was the right thing to do, because Joe Biden was not going to be able to campaign, much less serve as president for another four years, in a fully vital way, it was a jaw-dropping putsch.
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Party leaders whitewashed the coup by ornately extolling Biden.
James Clyburn told CNN that Biden had a record “that no president of the United States could ever match.” Pelosi proposed on CBS’s “Sunday Morning” that Biden’s face should be carved onto Mount Rushmore. “You have Teddy Roosevelt up there,” she said. “And he’s wonderful. I don’t say take him down. But you could add Biden.”
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Kamala can’t be thrilled that Obama, Pelosi and Schumer hesitated to endorse her because they wanted more moderate rivals to compete in an open mini-primary. And Biden and Harris staffs are also tetchy, as Kamala layers on her own people.
Biden still thinks he could have taken Trump, so how could he reconcile being shoved off the sled? On Wednesday, Ron Klain, Biden’s longtime adviser, expressed to Anderson Cooper Bidenworld’s feelings about the Jacquerie heard round the world.
“I think it was unfortunate because I think that the president had won the nomination fair and square,” Klain said. “Fourteen million people had voted for him and the vice president as vice president.” He added: “I do think, you know, the president was pushed by public calls from elected officials for him to drop out, from donors calling for him to drop out. And I think that was wrong.”
Those who pushed out Biden should be proud. They saved him and their party from a likely crushing defeat, letting Trump snake back in and soil democracy.
It wasn’t exactly “Julius Caesar” in Rehoboth Beach. But it was a tectonic shift and, of course, there were going to be serious reverberations. Even though it was the right thing to do, because Joe Biden was not going to be able to campaign, much less serve as president for another four years, in a fully vital way, it was a jaw-dropping putsch.
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Party leaders whitewashed the coup by ornately extolling Biden.
James Clyburn told CNN that Biden had a record “that no president of the United States could ever match.” Pelosi proposed on CBS’s “Sunday Morning” that Biden’s face should be carved onto Mount Rushmore. “You have Teddy Roosevelt up there,” she said. “And he’s wonderful. I don’t say take him down. But you could add Biden.”
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Kamala can’t be thrilled that Obama, Pelosi and Schumer hesitated to endorse her because they wanted more moderate rivals to compete in an open mini-primary. And Biden and Harris staffs are also tetchy, as Kamala layers on her own people.
Biden still thinks he could have taken Trump, so how could he reconcile being shoved off the sled? On Wednesday, Ron Klain, Biden’s longtime adviser, expressed to Anderson Cooper Bidenworld’s feelings about the Jacquerie heard round the world.
“I think it was unfortunate because I think that the president had won the nomination fair and square,” Klain said. “Fourteen million people had voted for him and the vice president as vice president.” He added: “I do think, you know, the president was pushed by public calls from elected officials for him to drop out, from donors calling for him to drop out. And I think that was wrong.”
Those who pushed out Biden should be proud. They saved him and their party from a likely crushing defeat, letting Trump snake back in and soil democracy.
What if Pence had just said yes and done it? For all your bluster and bravado, you don't have an answer.
Biden got 81 million votes. N O W A Y I N H E L L. But it'll be interesting if Kamala gets this many. Trumps haters have kicked it up another notch lately, so by theory she should get 90-100 million votes? ..and oddly i bet that a vast majority show up through the mail. Its strange that 80% of the mail in ballots counted at 3am were for Biden tho.
And what are you saying? Trump banged a porn star while the baby was getting settled in?? lolol Unless its in the white house with half azz sex toys, who cares? As for hush money, what cheater doesn't offer a stack of cash to shut them up? Pitino gave the girl a few grand and he didnt even lose his job coaching kids. Gimmie a break.
I actually liked Clinton, he was a good speaker, he still is. That was when i was Democrat and didnt realize how the economy worked.
Just curious. Do you feel safer with Trump as president, or gambling with Kamala that has no sense of the economy and no plan?
I'm so fascinated with anyone who would rather take a woman that was way too stupid to represent the Dem party 4 years ago, over a man that was already president, that had the country booming.
One last question, what part of Trumps 4 years did you hate most, the lower fuel, the lower inflation, the world peace, or lower taxes?
Then there would have been a massive legal battle and the fraud in GA, AZ, NV, etc. would have had time to be challenged.
This Dem mindset so fascinating to me. People hate Trump so much, they'd rather live a crappier life just to have Trump sit the sidelines.
Its like these crazy transgenders. They'd rather pass on making 150k a year and be homeless, than work for a company that doesn't recognize pronouns.
As you ignored: Trump committed fraud. Not just banging a porn star.
As for mail-in ballots, Trump voted by mail. People who couldn't get to the polls because of work pressures or infirmity voted by mail. Sorry that they overwhelmingly preferred Biden. I think the actual rate was around 5-3 Dem/Rep.
The numbers were up because of a huge GOTV effort. Sorry that offended you. The insinuations of fraud didn't stand up to scrutiny. As in Georgia. There were several recounts resulting in 3 affirmations of Biden's win. Arizona did a recount -- Republicans picked the auditors -- and increased Biden's margin. Such fraud.
Yeah, Clinton developed his economic plan based on what real economists told him. Freshwater economists -- of the Alan Greenspan sort -- blew up the economy in 2007-9 with their perceptive assertions on rational markets, housing prices, and CDOs. Assertions that Clinton didn't know how the economy worked are so convincing. (How much did the economy grow in the 90s?)
You said yourself Biden got 81 million votes because people hate Trump so much. Thats so fascinating to me because Dems are so soft that they'd rather trip over a dollar to pick up a very soft nickel.
Trumps 4 years in office were better than Bidens, end of story. Wars, Gas, Inflation, National Security, Value of your dollar, World Economy. Dems wanting more of the same, only because they hate a man mostly because of his demeanor and Tweets demonstrates a very soft, weak person.
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She is a walking, talking around the clock comedy skit. No way even the most radical liberals can take her seriously. I mean come on! At this point it's just a vote against republicans for them. Certainly not for her.
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I hated the reckless disregard for our core American constitutional values. You apparently prefer an autocrat and have shown the depth of your understanding of civics to be as shallow as the kiddie pool. What would have happened had Pence just done as Trump asked and read out his fake electors instead of the real ones? Useless engaging with someone this disingenuous who can't maintain a simple exchange and just throws up nonsense.
Fun fact: there 56 Muslim majority countries in the world.
Not one of them is taking any Palestinian refugees.
Ask yourself "Why not?"
Not one of them is taking any Palestinian refugees.
Ask yourself "Why not?"
That's not a guarantee as there's no constitutional or legal mechanism to handle it. The only other time something similar was tried it wasn't adjudicated by SCOTUS. Trump retains the presidency unless some mechanism is invented to force him out. Who and what would that be? Would it work or lead to further unrest and separation? None of us have any clue. Definition of a constitutional crisis. We'd be flying blind through deadly waters. Some would be defending him and others would be trying to depose him. Civil War II.
Looks like it's going to be an entertaining week.
If he'd stop sucking so much cawk and come up for air occasionally he'd know these stats are fake.
I think it's accurate/safe to say that Trump & thus of course MAGA weren't very happy with Pence for not doing Trump's bidding.
Supporting a would-be autocrat, spitting in the face of all of our American values, just for lower gas prices, definitely "demonstrates a very soft, weak person."
At this rate, I suspect she is unlikely to sit for any legitimate interviews or hold any legitimate press conferences all the way until Election Day. If she does anything at all, it will be with a friendly interviewer pitching pre-vetted softball questions.
The Dems can’t afford for her to be exposed in any settings where she has to string together cogent thoughts without a teleprompter. They have to sustain a certain image of her to make it plausible she can actually win the election.
He's no angel, but the country was better when he was president. Is he perfect? Oh my gosh, far from it. He's made plenty of errors. But he's a safer, and smarter choice than a woman with the IQ of a cocker spaniel.
You guys demolished her 4 years because she's an idiot, dont get your pannies in a wad now that we're saying the same thing.
Masked. Always a gd mask.
Because it's their land. Israel should stop stealing it.
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