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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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Hardly anyone under 30 can buy a home anymore anyway. Doesn’t matter whether Biden or Trump is president. That’s been true for more than a decade at this point, far longer than either of their terms. It’d almost be worth it for Trump to win at this point just so when things don’t immediately go back to preCovid, like prices, maybe some will realize presidents don’t have all that much to do with daily operations. I say almost though because I know y’all’s demographic and you won’t learn a thing, will just be pure excuses.
Home buying under Trump was open to a whole hell of a lot more people when rates were under 2% at some points. The income needed to buy a median-priced home has literally doubled since 2019 from $54,00 to $111,000. Have to think the percentage of those under 30 making between $54K and $111K is far far greater than those making north of $111K.

And who’s responsible for that generation not making a livable income when they waste their education on useless degrees. Whose fault is that again?
 
If Biden broke laws, prosecute him. Like I already said, if you have problems with Biden, don't vote for him. None of that has anything to do with an unprecedented coup attempt. Biden could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue(as Trump joked about) and it wouldn't change a thing about what Trump tried to do to our Constitution and country. You cannot try to overthrow our Constitution you swore to protect. You didn't address any of the substance, just whatabouted Biden. What do you need to wait and see on? Trump already did these things. Years ago.
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We can agree that every baby has inherent value, which is why people in our country should stop killing them. Agreed or not?
Definitely. We would disagree on what a baby is though. You sidestepped the question though. Yes, they all have value, but do they all have the same value or not?
 
These people are in power. Unbelievable.

Lived in Houston for roughly 6 years and she was not exactly popular but continued to get re-elected. It's kind of funny that she's a member of Congress with a degree from Yale and UVa, her husband is Vice Chancellor and VP of Student Affairs at Univ of Houston, her kids have graduated from Harvard and Duke and her district is among the poorest in Houston. I'm sure she has a TON of things in common with the poor and working poor who continue to vote for her. An unabashed racist and, as can be seen plainly in the video, just not very smart. Why her constituents continue to vote for her when she's done nothing for them in 30 years, has nothing in common with their plight and is just an embarrassment is beyond me.
 
Hardly anyone under 30 can buy a home anymore anyway. Doesn’t matter whether Biden or Trump is president. That’s been true for more than a decade at this point, far longer than either of their terms. It’d almost be worth it for Trump to win at this point just so when things don’t immediately go back to preCovid, like prices, maybe some will realize presidents don’t have all that much to do with daily operations. I say almost though because I know y’all’s demographic and you won’t learn a thing, will just be pure excuses.
False.
 
Home buying under Trump was open to a whole hell of a lot more people when rates were under 2% at some points. The income needed to buy a median-priced home has literally doubled since 2019 from $54,00 to $111,000. Have to think the percentage of those under 30 making between $54K and $111K is far far greater than those making north of $111K.

And who’s responsible for that generation not making a livable income when they waste their education on useless degrees. Whose fault is that again?
People can still buy homes, the younger people just need to aim a little lower than what older people have. Most older people did the same and traded up as they got older. If they can pay rent, they can buy a house. It may not be their dream home but, at least they are spending money on a home that they can sell later and take that money and put it towards and better one. That is how it is done. Dion is like all of these other entitled dolts who want it now.
 
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People can still buy homes, the younger people just need to aim a little lower than what older people have. Most older people did the same and traded up as they got older. If they can pay rent, they can buy a house. It may not be their dream home but, at least they are spending money on a home that they can sell later and take that money and put it towards and better one. That is how it is done. Dion is like all of these other entitled dolts who want it now.
That’s part of the problem. Young people want to start out in a $500k house.
 
Arizona giving Trump what he wants - an individual state decision:

"The Arizona Supreme Court on Tuesday upheld a 160-year-old law that bans abortions and punishes doctors who provide them, saying the ban that existed before Arizona became a state can be enforced going forward.

The ruling indicated the ban cannot be retroactively enforced, and the court stayed enforcement for 14 days."

 
Definitely. We would disagree on what a baby is though. You sidestepped the question though. Yes, they all have value, but do they all have the same value or not?

Life begins at conception. There would be no question about that if this had not been made political so people can kill other people. Only the politicals debate that fact.

Every life is unique and made in the image of God. So, on that measure of “value” everyone is valuable. That does not mean they all “deserve” the same outcomes or even the same economic opportunity. Pretending we are all equal for purposes of potential in the world is nonsensical. It’s actually an ugly premise to pretend that people are not unique with different gifts and potential.

America is great, because people can push above their starting point and not just economically How ugly the world would be if we all pretended we were the same or that competition is not inherently human. Some of the most successful humans I know started with what should have been a great disadvantage. They would not wish that pain on anyone, but some say it was a foundation for their success.

When the government tells you that you cannot fail, many people don’t live their lives. That is evil.
 
Life begins at conception. There would be no question about that if this had not been made political so people can kill other people. Only the politicals debate that fact.

Every life is unique and made in the image of God. So, on that measure of “value” everyone is valuable. That does not mean they all “deserve” the same outcomes or even the same economic opportunity. Pretending we are all equal for purposes of potential in the world is nonsensical. It’s actually an ugly premise to pretend that people are not unique with different gifts and potential.

America is great, because people can push above their starting point and not just economically How ugly the world would be if we all pretended we were the same or that competition is not inherently human. Some of the most successful humans I know started with what should have been a great disadvantage. They would not wish that pain on anyone, but some say it was a foundation for their success.

When the government tells you that you cannot fail, many people don’t live their lives. That is evil.
So why don't people deserve equal opportunity? Who should get more opportunities and who less?
 
No leftism can be fascist, by definition. It can be authoritarian sure. But not fascist.

You have to parse things to get to that conclusion. If your describe behavior and stop buying the leftist position that all fascism starts with the right-wing, the left in this country are the most oppressive people. They are authoritarian, dictatorial, desiring a centralized autocracy or theocracy. Their nationalism is not defined by borders, but by extremist ideology. Thry force a social hierarchy upon the masses and believe in forced suppression of the opposition. They are obsessed with classism.

I completely understand why you want to pretend that is not true. It’s not pretty for you.
 
Define equal opportunity, as you use it.

And, how would you suppress opportunities for those you feel have too much?
I didn't use it first, you did. You claimed you believed it and changed to it when I was talking about the "created equal" in the Declaration:
You admit we are not created equal by pointing out that there will be unskilled labor that is quickly replaced by automation. No one believes we are created equal, but are given equal opportunity.

You think government dictating outcomes will make America great?
 
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You have to parse things to get to that conclusion. If your describe behavior and stop buying the leftist position that all fascism starts with the right-wing, the left in this country are the most oppressive people. They are authoritarian, dictatorial, desiring a centralized autocracy or theocracy. Their nationalism is not defined by borders, but by extremist ideology. Thry force a social hierarchy upon the masses and believe in forced suppression of the opposition. They are obsessed with classism.

I completely understand why you want to pretend that is not true. It’s not pretty for you.
So let's dissect this as it does a fairly good job of illustrating exactly how leftism isn't fascist. Like I said it can be authoritarian sure, but it isn't fascist.

1) "They are authoritarian, dictatorial, desiring a centralized autocracy or theocracy." - The left, especially in America, has absolutely no ties to either autocracy or theocracy. In fact they openly advocate against religion.

2) "Their nationalism is not defined by borders, but by extremist ideology." - This is nonsense, nationalism means directly exalting one's nation. It is literally defined by borders, not ideology. All ideology is secondary to the interests of the nation. That's the very meaning of nationalism. Which is all in direct opposition to leftism.

3) "They force a social hierarchy upon the masses and believe in forced suppression of the opposition." - What social hierarchy? What is it defined by? The definition of leftism is tearing down traditional hierarchies, not reinforcing them. Even if you argue the current American left doesn't do that it would just be a failing to live up to that leftist standard, not a feature of leftism. As you correctly point to it's a feature of fascism.
 
Hardly anyone under 30 can buy a home anymore anyway. Doesn’t matter whether Biden or Trump is president. That’s been true for more than a decade at this point, far longer than either of their terms. It’d almost be worth it for Trump to win at this point just so when things don’t immediately go back to preCovid, like prices, maybe some will realize presidents don’t have all that much to do with daily operations. I say almost though because I know y’all’s demographic and you won’t learn a thing, will just be pure excuses.
This is nonsense. The increase in prices is entirely because of policy decisions… the worst being the economic shutdown and everything that flowed from that.

As if it just happened out of thin air.
 
This is nonsense. The increase in prices is entirely because of policy decisions… the worst being the economic shutdown and everything that flowed from that.

As if it just happened out of thin air.
It didn't happen in a vacuum, the rest of the world were doing things we had no control over(and that's exactly how y'all want it with individual sovereignty). And they're mostly doing far worse than us in terms of inflation and recession. Regardless, those covid policies started under Trump, remember?
 

The federal gov't hates us...
Our elected officials will move heaven and Earth in order to get money to Ukraine and Israel and Gaza. They will not lift a finger to stop illegal immigration into this country or to stop fentanyl from killing thousands per year.
 
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