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POLITICAL THREAD

How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
That is some scary shat. What is her net worth?

What leftie here wants to defend that as sane?
This is a great analysis. The 2 fanatical leftists that they discuss perfectly illustrate everything that is wrong with the world and we see the insane rants on here almost word for word (Sam, Dion, Maddiebooboo, looking at you...). This behavior by the fanatical left is destroying the discourse in society. The left DESTROY ... they never BUILD. They DESTROY...

 
Here's Trump supporting FL's 6 weeks abortion law:

"“My view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint,” Trump said. “The states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both, and whatever they decide must be the law of the land. In this case, the law of the state."

You are misrepresenting what he said and probably on purpose. He said the states decide. He is supporting Florida's RIGHT TO DECIDE the issue for themselves. He even made similar comments about blue states according to TDW.
 
Here, as a gesture of good faith I'll attempt to do what you're asking event though you won't extend the same courtesy:

First things first. Let’s address the mistake you keep promoting. I don’t tout MAGA. I am just not offended by MAGA. So, you thinking I need to defend a campaign slogan that I neither promote nor decry is you just being bossy.

I think America has been great, as I mentioned. And, I do not entertain your and other’s fear mongering that the term means focus on the evils of the past.

You and other have been immature about the term and purposefully, because you want to scare and shame.

So, when you pretend I have not extended a like courtesy, it is a mistake. MAGA neither drives nor scares me. It’s just a campaign slogan.

Technological advancements continue to be made, increasing productivity and devaluing labor. From tractors doing the work of many men and horses to AI aggregating and analyzing data much better than the people who used to. As the percentage of work able to be done by automation increases the percentage of work to be done by humans decreases. Eventually it will decrease far enough that you have massive swathes of the populace simply unemployable through no fault of their own, they're just rendered obsolete as machines can do what they did better for cheaper. What happens to our society as the economic value that used to be generated by workers, and so shared with them, is now generated entirely by machines? We have to tackle these problems now or things will keep spiraling out of control.

Labor is valued, it just will not be able to compete. I agree that this is going to be a workforce problem. You act as if, however, America cannot be great before this becomes a problem. You act as if greatness can only be achieved upon this hurdle. And, you avoid the solution. Are you suggesting an entitled class that simply does not work, because of automation? If so, how would that be “great?”

As the Founders said, we are all created equal. We're all born naked and helpless onto this floating rock in space. We are handed no instruction manual, no rulebook. We simply exist and have to reckon with what that means. This gets into foundational philosophy and epistemology and physics and religion. Basically everything in the known universe. A little expansive for a message board. But any questions you want to know ask away. I always appreciate genuine discourse on religious/philosophical questions when this thread gives it.

Priorities. There are finite resources on this rock and the political discussion we're having is about how best to allocate them, right? Not just to consume them until they're gone and that's it.

We and the Founders knew that individuals are not created equal. You admit as much with the concern you stated above.


So, greatness depends upon limiting consumption? How do you propose to do that?

Ther is nothing about your idea of government restricting people that is aligned with the Founders. You give them lip service, but you don’t trust them or agree with them. You just improperly use them in your script to promote a country they would not recognize or appreciate.
 
You are misrepresenting what he said and probably on purpose. He said the states decide. He is supporting Florida's RIGHT TO DECIDE the issue for themselves. He even made similar comments about blue states according to TDW.
I take his statement as he supports every state's law because they each decided it per the Constitution. I say that because a number of MAGA on here think FL's law is wrong, not morally as they DGAS, but politically, when their Dear Leader is OK with it. Who are they to disagree with Trump?
 
He doesn't have to pay - yet. It's a bond. Do you even understand the difference between paying & a bond? Apparently not. Your low intelligence side is showing - again.
Can you come up with $175 million? Do you understand constantly going to court and having to try to come up with cash is hurting his ability to campaign. It's like you don't understand this is all to hurt him in the election. They are literally doing what they accused him of doing.

I honestly don't understand your thought process on anything. LOL.
 
They passed a mansion tax on multi million dollar homes too. Prices tanked immediately. Some people that were trying to leave couldn't sell their $25million property... LOL.
All that says is that they overpriced their houses because they didn't take the state government's taxing authority into account. Shame on them.
 
Can you come up with $175 million? Do you understand constantly going to court and having to try to come up with cash is hurting his ability to campaign. It's like you don't understand this is all to hurt him in the election. They are literally doing what they accused him of doing.

I honestly don't understand your thought process on anything. LOL.
Yes, I can come up with $175M in cash. Yes, I can see where it hurts his ability to campaign. What you don't understand, and it's not at all hard, is that IDGAS - for at least the 3rd time. I'm not hung up on Dear Leader as MAGA is - that's the difference. But continue to not understand as IDGAS about that either.
 
Dems are flipping to pub because of Trump. Trump get double the black community vote of anyone on the Pub side. Trump get more Hispanics than anyone on the pub side. Trump is losing women in the suburbs.
DeSantis won 57% of the Hispanic vote in his 2022 election. Won 13% of black vote - just about same as Trump did in 2020.
 
Yes, I can come up with $175M in cash. Yes, I can see where it hurts his ability to campaign. What you don't understand, and it's not at all hard, is that IDGAS - for at least the 3rd time. I'm not hung up on Dear Leader as MAGA is - that's the difference. But continue to not understand as IDGAS about that either.
But what you aren't understanding is these leftist aren't stopping at Trump. They were already gearing up for Desantis when they thought he'd be the nominee. Notice all that talk has disappeared since he bowed out and endorsed Trump. I would think you have read some history books on leftist governments... or given your age... newspaper articles from the 30's, 40's and 50's.

Leftist are in charge of the Dem party now. They aren't worried about the law or the constitution. They will do anything they can get away with and laugh about it.
 
DeSantis won 57% of the Hispanic vote in his 2022 election. Won 13% of black vote - just about same as Trump did in 2020.
But Trump endorsed Ron. Ron was running neck and neck with a crackhead gay prostitute addicted coke head... then Trump endorsed him and put him over the edge. You can go look up the data. Trump polls better with most groups other than women and thats usually suburban white women and low income black women.
 
But what you aren't understanding is these leftist aren't stopping at Trump. They were already gearing up for Desantis when they thought he'd be the nominee. Notice all that talk has disappeared since he bowed out and endorsed Trump. I would think you have read some history books on leftist governments... or given your age... newspaper articles from the 30's, 40's and 50's.

Leftist are in charge of the Dem party now. They aren't worried about the law or the constitution. They will do anything they can get away with and laugh about it.
I can't remember the last time an opposing party focused their attacks on someone who lost their opponents nomination over the actual nominee. Help me out on that. Until then, I consider bringing it up as stupidity.

Agree leftists aren't stopping at Trump. Sorta like Putin not stopping at Ukraine.
 
Your totalitarian side is showing. Making an innocent man pay $175 million in order to prove his innocence in a clearly corrupt court is a freaking joke. We aren't a serious nation anymore if some batshit crazy democrat lady can just drag people she doesn't like to court and get her batshit crazy judge buddy to ignore every precedent and legal standard... NYC is the financial capital of America and this woman is going to destroy it over a petty political stance.

He's a leftist that thinks he's a conservstive or moderate. Too many of those these days.
 
Peaceful, tolerant left. Like I said earlier, these radicals will destroy conversations in America. They need to be dealt with like the terrorists they are.
 
But Trump endorsed Ron. Ron was running neck and neck with a crackhead gay prostitute addicted coke head... then Trump endorsed him and put him over the edge. You can go look up the data. Trump polls better with most groups other than women and thats usually suburban white women and low income black women.
You're mixing up elections. That was 2018. RD had a record to run on in 2022 & won in a blowout.

If Trump outpolls RD, then wouldn't you expect him to do better with most demographics?
 
Labor is valued, it just will not be able to compete. I agree that this is going to be a workforce problem. You act as if, however, America cannot be great before this becomes a problem. You act as if greatness can only be achieved upon this hurdle. And, you avoid the solution. Are you suggesting an entitled class that simply does not work, because of automation? If so, how would that be “great?”
The percentage will continue to rise until it's nearly everyone. No one will 'work' in the same way we know it today. If we don't make changes our current society that's based on wages from that work will collapse. The solution is to properly distribute the production of the automation so that everyone benefits and it frees mankind. Not to continue on our current trajectory of concentrating all production from that automation into the hands of the select few elites who own the robots.
We and the Founders knew that individuals are not created equal. You admit as much with the concern you stated above.


So, greatness depends upon limiting consumption? How do you propose to do that?

Ther is nothing about your idea of government restricting people that is aligned with the Founders. You give them lip service, but you don’t trust them or agree with them. You just improperly use them in your script to promote a country they would not recognize or appreciate.
If you'd read your link you'd know it isn't supportive of what you're saying. The individual vs collective distinction is irrelevant to the substance of the intent. But setting the link aside, you're stating your personal opinion is that people are not created equal? That we're born into a natural hierarchy? That view that we should have nobles and peasants goes directly against the Founders consensus and is as unAmerican as it gets. It is not me who is giving lip service and trying to warp the country into something unrecognizable to our Founders.
 
Can one of you resident Libs please explain what good and righteous things George Soros brings to the table that will benefit Americans and humanity as a whole such that the liberals latch onto him and allow him and his influence to shape their policies and agendas? Any of you got any good replies?
Well, he hates truth, justice and the America way and hates Trump even more. He represents them perfectly. That hate is literally all they have and all they want. That is why they cannot laugh at the hilarious bantering between Front and many others on here.
 
But what you aren't understanding is these leftist aren't stopping at Trump. They were already gearing up for Desantis when they thought he'd be the nominee. Notice all that talk has disappeared since he bowed out and endorsed Trump. I would think you have read some history books on leftist governments... or given your age... newspaper articles from the 30's, 40's and 50's.

Leftist are in charge of the Dem party now. They aren't worried about the law or the constitution. They will do anything they can get away with and laugh about it.
I'm the furthest left person here and a staunch Constitution defender. Its protections are the only reason I haven't been burned at the stake as a heretic or thrown in jail for communism.
 
The percentage will continue to rise until it's nearly everyone. No one will 'work' in the same way we know it today. If we don't make changes our current society that's based on wages from that work will collapse. The solution is to properly distribute the production of the automation so that everyone benefits and it frees mankind. Not to continue on our current trajectory of concentrating all production from that automation into the hands of the select few elites who own the robots.

If you'd read your link you'd know it isn't supportive of what you're saying. The individual vs collective distinction is irrelevant to the substance of the intent. But setting the link aside, you're stating your personal opinion is that people are not created equal? That we're born into a natural hierarchy? That view that we should have nobles and peasants goes directly against the Founders consensus and is as unAmerican as it gets. It is not me who is giving lip service and trying to warp the country into something unrecognizable to our Founders.

You admit we are not created equal by pointing out that there will be unskilled labor that is quickly replaced by automation. No one believes we are created equal, but are given equal opportunity.

You think government dictating outcomes will make America great?
 
They passed a mansion tax on multi million dollar homes too. Prices tanked immediately. Some people that were trying to leave couldn't sell their $25million property... LOL.

Wow. Sounds like when the jews were expelled from Spain and given a short time to sell their property and leave. Hard to sell when everyone knows they don't have to pay fair market value. Gov got most of what they owned for that very reason.
 
I can't remember the last time an opposing party focused their attacks on someone who lost their opponents nomination over the actual nominee. Help me out on that. Until then, I consider bringing it up as stupidity.

Agree leftists aren't stopping at Trump. Sorta like Putin not stopping at Ukraine.
You truly are room temp IQ. It's amazing how you can read peoples post and get a 180 degree different take than what was the point. You do it on almost every post. I almost think you are 20yo college kid just trolling us because nobody can be this hypocritical and delusional.
 
You're mixing up elections. That was 2018. RD had a record to run on in 2022 & won in a blowout.

If Trump outpolls RD, then wouldn't you expect him to do better with most demographics?
Trump beat Ron in Florida for that primary.... That is better than "outpolling"... It's like you never read anything and just comment anyway. LOL.
 
Reminder ... this is why many were opposed to the experimental injections as there were treatments on the market that are nearly 100% effective. But there is no money or control to be had with those ...

So many people need to wake the F*** up. Where are all the dipshits from 2021-22 arguing that 19 was the end of the world now?? And we were trying to kill grandma and threats to society! Never forget...
 
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Can you come up with $175 million? Do you understand constantly going to court and having to try to come up with cash is hurting his ability to campaign. It's like you don't understand this is all to hurt him in the election. They are literally doing what they accused him of doing.

I honestly don't understand your thought process on anything. LOL.
It is as if he does not care about the corruption as long as they get Trump which by the way makes him and others like him complicit. Not indifferent to histories masses of people who just sit by while governments destroy their opponents through lies and weaponizing government agencies to suppress freedoms and fair elections. We are witnessing the socializing and radicalizing of the people and government agencies to be used to change our system into a socialized/communistic system.
 
Gotta shield and protect the Big Guy. Resident Libs what would you say if the DOJ declined to release a Trump interview?
 
But Trump endorsed Ron. Ron was running neck and neck with a crackhead gay prostitute addicted coke head... then Trump endorsed him and put him over the edge. You can go look up the data. Trump polls better with most groups other than women and thats usually suburban white women and low income black women.
He does not want to know the truth, it destroys his worldly views and wishes.
 
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