POLITICAL THREAD

[VaxxedObamaCat]

"Nobody supports those things"? Yet here YOU and Dion and others are on here DEFENDING all of those things. All of those parents who had kids in the audiences of those lewd performances supports those things. All of those purple haired, multi-facial piercings, Antifa loving goons that protest, show up on School boards, and teach in the school systems supports those things. Don't you call us fascists for fighting against those things in one post then in the next tell us "NOBODY supports those things."

Only your myopic, sky-is falling, CNN narrative believing mind actually believes they are trying to outlaw drag. All they want is drag SHOWS to be regulated as adult entertainment. Geez.

Body mutilating elective surgeries on minors should be outlawed. It's sick and twisted for anyone to think a young child under the age of consent with a still developing brain and mind, should be subjected to non-reversible body mutilating surgery.

Government overreach? Quite the Hypocrite Mr. Get vaxxed or lose your job. Get vaxxed or you can't travel. Get vaxxed or you can't eat here. Wear your mask or you can't Shop here. No swimming alone on that beach, Shut down your business, Let's create a ministry of truth...Need I go on?

Schools need to stick to teaching the things schools were intended to teach. Let Parents parent. Schools should not become indoctrination factories.

Abortion is murder.

You've been lectured a number of times on here that Guns are not the leading cause of death among children. no need to rehash that stupid argument.

Never forget that these leftist clowns demanded everyone condemn "white supremacy" (as they claim everything is white supremacy lol) but they can never condemn their party pushing this crap on kids. They do support it. They never speak out against it. There's a giant push for this (of course after claiming it wasn't happening).

The trans shit is absolutely a big part of the left's platform. They support men in women's bathrooms, on women's sports teams, they support drag queens dancing for kids, reading to kids, they support these surgeries on kids. They portray not wanting pornography and gas agenda trash in elementary schools as "book banning."

No other issue shows how insane and evil and the wrong side of history (a favorite phrase of the left) , the left is on more than the trans nonsense.

 

[trueblujr2]

Never forget that these leftist clowns demanded everyone condemn "white supremacy" (as they claim everything is white supremacy lol) but they can never condemn their party pushing this crap on kids. They do support it. They never speak out against it. There's a giant push for this (of course after claiming it wasn't happening).

The trans shit is absolutely a big part of the left's platform. They support men in women's bathrooms, on women's sports teams, they support drag queens dancing for kids, reading to kids, they support these surgeries on kids. They portray not wanting pornography and gas agenda trash in elementary schools as "book banning."

No other issue shows how insane and evil and the wrong side of history (a favorite phrase of the left) , the left is on more than the trans nonsense.

I'd have a little more respect for liberals if they had a backbone and would at least tell us where they draw the line on just how far left they will let this nonsense go. They call us extremists, yet there is nothing too stupid or outlandish that they will call out.

 

[warrior-cat]

And our nutless pubs will yap about it like little dogs, knowing they‘re not going to bite. then move on to something else to yap about. 🤬

As I have posted in the past, most of these politicians act like they are upset about what the other side is doing and go about "investigating", having hearings, and talk a lot about it while actually doing nothing. It is all a dog and pony show to feign doing something about the corruption all the while doing nothing. Later on when going for re-election they point to those instances of trying to right the wrong, but the other side blocked it. DRAIN THE SWAMP AND START OVER.

 

[DocPT]

This sounds like a Babylon Bee headline.

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There are idiots who will do. But who are we kidding? The dishonest medical field
will not pass up the opportunity to give fake “cervical exam” when they know they’ll get paid additional $300+ to do.

 

[warrior-cat]

"Nobody supports those things"? Yet here YOU and Dion and others are on here DEFENDING all of those things. All of those parents who had kids in the audiences of those lewd performances supports those things. All of those purple haired, multi-facial piercings, Antifa loving goons that protest, show up on School boards, and teach in the school systems supports those things. Don't you call us fascists for fighting against those things in one post then in the next tell us "NOBODY supports those things."

Only your myopic, sky-is falling, CNN narrative believing mind actually believes they are trying to outlaw drag. All they want is drag SHOWS to be regulated as adult entertainment. Geez.

Body mutilating elective surgeries on minors should be outlawed. It's sick and twisted for anyone to think a young child under the age of consent with a still developing brain and mind, should be subjected to non-reversible body mutilating surgery.

Government overreach? Quite the Hypocrite Mr. Get vaxxed or lose your job. Get vaxxed or you can't travel. Get vaxxed or you can't eat here. Wear your mask or you can't Shop here. No swimming alone on that beach, Shut down your business, Let's create a ministry of truth...Need I go on?

Schools need to stick to teaching the things schools were intended to teach. Let Parents parent. Schools should not become indoctrination factories.

Abortion is murder.

You've been lectured a number of times on here that Guns are not the leading cause of death among children. no need to rehash that stupid argument.

He talks out of both sides of his mouth/ass (interchangeable) "blowing" whichever way the wind blows. The consummate lock stepping lemming.

 

[warrior-cat]

Upwards of 20% of Gen Z identifies as LGBTQRSTUV....There are roughly 68.6 million Gen Z in America, That's roughly 13.7 million Gen Z identifying as such. That's not organinc. That is clearly a societal push.

My daughter's cousin (12 years old) from my wife's side identifies as a trans-male but warns other females that she is a gay trans-male and only likes guys. I guess that is one way to follow the trend/go with the flow and still keep your actual preferences intact. 🤪

 

[BlueRunner11]

And they won't even answer to their hypocrisy on the matter. Try sticking a Bible in a school library and watch their liberal heads explode.

Heck, let a white liberal find an Aunt Jemima bottle in the school cafeteria or an old Washington Redskins football on the playground and their heads will explode.

Notice I said “white liberal” because most Native American didn’t wasn’t the Redksin name changed. The family of the Aunt Jemima lady took a lot of pride in what that woman built out of nothing. But white liberals decide what minorities should be outraged about because they think they’re morally superior, smarter, and still low key think they should control them.

 

[sambowieshin]

You are one weird, out of the mainstream soul. We are talking minors, under the age of 18. Little boys and girls who need counseling not removal of the penis, their breasts and mutilation of their body with tons of drugs.

Anyone over the age of 18 can do as they please. But this should never be encouraged by public school teachers. That is criminal, cruel and inhumane. And it should be a National crime not just in the State of Florida. Any doctor performing this on minors must have their license revoked to practice medicine and face imprisonment. It is that serious and every responsible, sane parent should understand that.

I have never said permanent surgery under 18 is not up for debate. I can see both sides of the argument for that aspect of this law.
What is unacceptable is removing all medical services including the use of puberty blockers. In essence, you are absolutely destroying a trans kid's ability to even try to appear as their preferred sex even at 18.
A male will grow wide shoulders, adams apple, larger frame, jaw and protruding brow bone. Then when they turn 18 they will need additional surgery to correct all of that in order to pass and be content with their appearance.
They should allow puberty blockers until 18 then they can move forward one way or the other without additional stress and costly surgery. That keeps permanent changes in check but also allows for those hell bent on transitioning.

I get the permanent surgery postpone thing argument. I get the trans sports thing (It actually DOES affect others so that's fair).
But at the end of the day how bout you Pubs just mind your own GDamn business and leave people the F alone unless it affects you (trans sports).
Everything else in this law is just f'ing with other people's lives unnecessarily.

 

[trueblujr2]

My daughter's cousin (12 years old) from my wife's side identifies as a trans-male but warns other females that she is a gay trans-male and only likes guys. I guess that is one way to follow the trend/go with the flow and still keep your actual preferences intact. 🤪

A very circular way of saying she's a straight chick.

 

[trueblujr2]

Heck, let a white liberal find an Aunt Jemima bottle in the school cafeteria or an old Washington Redskins football on the playground and their heads will explode.

Notice I said “white liberal” because most Native American didn’t wasn’t the Redksin name changed. The family of the Aunt Jemima lady took a lot of pride in what that woman built out of nothing. But white liberals decide what minorities should be outraged about because they think they’re morally superior, smarter, and still low key think they should control them.

And meanwhile they leave the white Quaker Oats guy alone. So much for diversity and inclusion.

 

[trueblujr2]

I have never said permanent surgery under 18 is not up for debate. I can see both sides of the argument for that aspect of this law.
What is unacceptable is removing all medical services including the use of puberty blockers. In essence, you are absolutely destroying a trans kid's ability to even try to appear as their preferred sex even at 18.
A male will grow wide shoulders, adams apple, larger frame, jaw and protruding brow bone. Then when they turn 18 they will need additional surgery to correct all of that in order to pass and be content with their appearance.
They should allow puberty blockers until 18 then they can move forward one way or the other without additional stress and costly surgery. That keeps permanent changes in check but also allows for those hell bent on transitioning.

I get the permanent surgery postpone thing argument. I get the trans sports thing (It actually DOES affect others so that's fair).
But at the end of the day how bout you Pubs just mind your own GDamn business and leave people the F alone unless it affects you (trans sports).
Everything else in this law is just f'ing with other people's lives unnecessarily.

Why don't you do the same damn thing and leave us the hell alone with your mask mandates, forced vaccines, telling us what we can and cannot say, taking away our right to protect our families and our ability to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government.

All Conservatives have EVER asked is to be left the phuch alone to enjoy our God given freedoms and liberties.

 

[Dionysus444]

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They’re rioting over raising the retirement age from 62 to 64. If only we were so lucky. We could learn from them, exactly as I said.

 

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[chaplain1]

I laughed when I read this then I suddenly realized I had laughed at many other crazy out of this world things that liberals had proposed in the past. And today some are actual laws.

I can absolutely see a WOKE medical professions suggesting and a WOKE government mandating this. Voting is important because you get what you pay for.

We really shouldn't let this stuff go. People on the left will say we are exaggerating, but this crap is happening in Canada and you know it is already happening here. I remember a few years ago I heard this doctor speaking about a young female patient (around 15 years old). She had heard that if you have an enlarged prostate you can have trouble peeing. She went to see him and told her she was pretty sure she had an enlarged prostate and wanted some medicine for it. The doctor laughed at her innocence, as did all who heard the story.
But you see these videos of dudes saying they're women and have menstrual cramps. You know they are already going to a doctor to get treated for it. men need tampons too. Heaven help the transphobic doc who doesn't take this seriously. He would fear losing his license. Women who say they are men will want to be checked for prostate problems, and at 250 dollars an office visit, the doc will say sure, why not? Just like they continue wearing masks in their office to get Medicare money.
The only doctors who won't play this silly game will be those who are close to retirement. The good news is universal health care will pay for all of it.
How crazy is our world?

 

[BlueRunner11]

You are giving the most extreme idiotic examples. Nobody supports those things.
What you don't get is that these laws are marginalizing whole minority groups and painting them all as unworthy humans who need to be stuffed back into the dust bin.
They aren't just restricting drag.... They are essentially outlawing it.
They aren't just limiting trans kids from surgery.... They are outlawing it.
They aren't just limiting school counselors from discussing trans issues with kids.... They are outlawing it.
They aren't just limiting abortion from late term..... They are outlawing it.
The level of government overreach is staggering.
And yet.... Nothing is being done to improve teacher pay. Nothing is being done to help parents with the high cost of healthcare or childcare. Nothing is being done to reduce the number one cause of death for children in America... Guns.
Education.... Nada
Healthcare.... Zip
Childcare.... Nope
Gun violence... No way

We've lost our way.

Idiotic examples? Sam, the examples I’m giving is exactly what has caused the general push back that now has your side all up in arms.

Children are protected from sexually explicit material by our government with established laws of the land that also prohibit children from legally entering into a contract or properly being able to consent for medical procedures. There are good reasons for that I assume you know.

The left is constantly trying to circumvent, ignoring, and trying to find workarounds when it comes to these laws. Lowering age of consent, medical procedures without parents knowledge, sexually explicit material in childrens libraries, secret sexual counseling at schools without parental involvement, interactive participation in stripping and sex demonstrations (drag or straight).

My question is why? Is it money? Is it perversion? Is it emotionalism? Is it grooming? Is it a matter of dividing the parent/child relationship to give the state more power?

Regardless, none of these reasons are acceptable bedrocks on which a functioning, thriving, and long lasting society will flourish on.

Every time I have addressed this topic, my priority has been the topic of children/minors. 18 yo and up can do what they want whether I agree or not. Why is this not reasonable?

 

[Girthang]

Heck, let a white liberal find an Aunt Jemima bottle in the school cafeteria or an old Washington Redskins football on the playground and their heads will explode.

Notice I said “white liberal” because most Native American didn’t wasn’t the Redksin name changed. The family of the Aunt Jemima lady took a lot of pride in what that woman built out of nothing. But white liberals decide what minorities should be outraged about because they think they’re morally superior, smarter, and still low key think they should control them.

Pretty hilarious isn't it?

If you replace "white liberals" in that sentence with "conservatives," you can almost hear the media, politicians, and baby chicks on the left screaming and crying, "RACIST! RACIST! WAAAAAaaaaa!!"

 

[Dionysus444]

And they won't even answer to their hypocrisy on the matter. Try sticking a Bible in a school library and watch their liberal heads explode.

You keep bringing up this point but it isn’t true. Bibles are in school libraries across the country. Yes a handful of places have tried to ban it, but ironically enough it was for adult content, sex and violence, what you’re doing now. It’s exceedingly rare though, almost every school in the country has a Bible in its library.

 

[Dionysus444]

I have never said permanent surgery under 18 is not up for debate. I can see both sides of the argument for that aspect of this law.
What is unacceptable is removing all medical services including the use of puberty blockers. In essence, you are absolutely destroying a trans kid's ability to even try to appear as their preferred sex even at 18.
A male will grow wide shoulders, adams apple, larger frame, jaw and protruding brow bone. Then when they turn 18 they will need additional surgery to correct all of that in order to pass and be content with their appearance.
They should allow puberty blockers until 18 then they can move forward one way or the other without additional stress and costly surgery. That keeps permanent changes in check but also allows for those hell bent on transitioning.

I get the permanent surgery postpone thing argument. I get the trans sports thing (It actually DOES affect others so that's fair).
But at the end of the day how bout you Pubs just mind your own GDamn business and leave people the F alone unless it affects you (trans sports).
Everything else in this law is just f'ing with other people's lives unnecessarily.

Nobody is doing bottom surgery on under 16s. Literally never happened once in our country. It’s a straw man they use because they’re either uneducated or intentionally disingenuous. I try not to engage at length with them on the issue as they clearly don’t have the facts and just want to spew hate. Bravo for attempting to educate.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

My daughter's cousin (12 years old) from my wife's side identifies as a trans-male but warns other females that she is a gay trans-male and only likes guys. I guess that is one way to follow the trend/go with the flow and still keep your actual preferences intact. 🤪

So she's a straight teen who desperately seeks attention. Not unusual and pretty common. Sick libs just changed the outlet for those kids in hopes of grooming them. These adults are bizarre and sick.

Then you have some of these parents (not your family per se) that are essentially expressing munchausen by proxy and this is the new vehicle for that illness.

It's an insidiously move by libs to capitalize on emotional unwell people for political benefit.

 

[Dionysus444]

Idiotic examples? Sam, the examples I’m giving is exactly what has caused the general push back that now has your side all up in arms.

Children are protected from sexually explicit material by our government with established laws of the land that also prohibit children from legally entering into a contract or properly being able to consent for medical procedures. There are good reasons for that I assume you know.

The left is constantly trying to circumvent, ignoring, and trying to find workarounds when it comes to these laws. Lowering age of consent, medical procedures without parents knowledge, sexually explicit material in childrens libraries, secret sexual counseling at schools without parental involvement, interactive participation in stripping and sex demonstrations (drag or straight).

My question is why? Is it money? Is it perversion? Is it emotionalism? Is it grooming? Is it a matter of dividing the parent/child relationship to give the state more power?

Regardless, none of these reasons are acceptable bedrocks on which a functioning, thriving, and long lasting society will flourish on.

Every time I have addressed this topic, my priority has been the topic of children/minors. 18 yo and up can do what they want whether I agree or not. Why is this not reasonable?

They’re not your kids. Kids can’t just do what they want. They have to do what their parents say. And that’s between them. The exception to that is abuse. So y’all are trying to get everything you don’t personally like classified as abuse. If a parent wants to let their kid watch an R-rated movie that is their parental decision, not abuse. The rating is there only as a guideline, not legal consequences. The same should be true for drag. Shows for adults should be labeled as such but parents should be free to let their kids view whatever media they allow. It’s their decision, not the government’s. You claim that on every issue except the ones you don’t personally agree with. Hypocrisy.

 

[Dionysus444]

It's an insidiously move by libs to capitalize on emotional unwell people for political benefit.

Everyone here maintains it’s politically damaging though and only a fringe extremist issue. You’re talking out both sides of your mouth.

 

[berniecarbo]

NYPD Lowers Fitness Standards So That They Can Hire More Women

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[bigblueinsanity]

Everyone here maintains it’s politically damaging though and only a fringe extremist issue. You’re talking out both sides or your mouth.

Please. Libs do nothing they think politically damaging. Every move they make is based on polling and strategy. Even if it's currently political questionable, they believe it will pay future dividends.

Libs are all in on recruiting and indoctrination of youth. It's smart if you only care about votes and power.

 

[trueblujr2]

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pretty sure Hunters signature is on a form that says if he doesn't pick the thing up after a certain time frame, it becomes the property of the repair shop and they can do with it as they see fit.

 

[BlueRunner11]

They’re not your kids. Kids can’t just do what they want. They have to do what their parents say. And that’s between them. The exception to that is abuse. So y’all are trying to get everything you don’t personally like classified as abuse. If a parent wants to let their kid watch an R-rated movie that is their parental decision, not abuse. The rating is there only as a guideline, not legal consequences. The same should be true for drag. Shows for adults should be labeled as such but parents should be free to let their kids view whatever media they allow. It’s their decision, not the government’s. You claim that on every issue except the ones you don’t personally agree with. Hypocrisy.

As I agree with you to an extent, there are laws in play that protect children even from parents poor decisions.

Parental consent is required for a minor attending an R movie, getting a tattoo, getting a medical procedure.

Are drag shows on par with those things when it comes to entertainment? Possibly some, but imo many are not and border on things that are not allowed for children to participate in regardless of parental consent (strip clubs, buying porn, accessing adults only stores) from content I have seen and it’s not even something I even go looking for. That would be a matter for people who decide on these things to qualify what’s ok and what is not. What we have now is a free for all with no regulation.

My point to Sam is there is a concerted effort by the left to find ways around laws like this and medical procedure consent and much of it is coming from the school systems trying to operate outside a parents knowledge.

 

[Freetaxreturn]

They’re rioting over raising the retirement age from 62 to 64. If only we were so lucky. We could learn from them, exactly as I said.

Not so fast Dioness 🍺

 

[WildcatofNati]

They’re not your kids. Kids can’t just do what they want. They have to do what their parents say. And that’s between them. The exception to that is abuse. So y’all are trying to get everything you don’t personally like classified as abuse. If a parent wants to let their kid watch an R-rated movie that is their parental decision, not abuse. The rating is there only as a guideline, not legal consequences. The same should be true for drag. Shows for adults should be labeled as such but parents should be free to let their kids view whatever media they allow. It’s their decision, not the government’s. You claim that on every issue except the ones you don’t personally agree with. Hypocrisy.

That's fine, Dion, but what kind of parent would  want to take a kid to see this foolishness? Moreover, what kid would want to go? I guarantee you I would've gone ballistic as a kid if I had to go watch this nonsense.

Let's face it, these shows are pretty gay. Not even gay, as in homosexual. Gay, as in cheesy, corny, and lame. The only kids who want to like this crap are the same kids who really, really like the Rocky Horror Picture Show. The weirdos.

 

[Dionysus444]

Not so fast Dioness 🍺

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Yeah 'cause the sanitation workers are protesting. If they want to take our pensions the rich can haul their own garbage.

 

[Lost In FL]

There are idiots who will do. But who are we kidding? The dishonest medical field
will not pass up the opportunity to give fake “cervical exam” when they know they’ll get paid additional $300+ to do.

And zero liability

 

[Dionysus444]

That's fine, Dion, but what kind of parent would  want to take a kid to see this foolishness? Moreover, what kid would want to go? I guarantee you I would've gone ballistic as a kid if I had to go watch this nonsense.

Let's face it, these shows are pretty gay. Not even gay, as in homosexual. Gay, as in cheesy, corny, and lame. The only kids who want to like this crap are the same kids who really, really like the Rocky Horror Picture Show. The weirdos.

Obviously you're entitled to your opinion but you know that isn't a reason to criminalize it. We're here in the first place because we like college football and basketball. Most people don't know wtf that is and would look at you like you're crazy for watching it, let alone attending games or posting on message boards about it. To each his own. All drag is not stripping or abuse. If you Karens want to put warning labels on it, whatever that's on you. But outlawing dressing up as the opposite sex is not the way forward for society. Women didn't wear pants until very recently, now it's completely normal. Everyone used to wear togas. We should not be passing laws on what people can wear. We have much bigger issues in our country and society and on our planet.

 

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[trueblujr2]

Nobody is doing bottom surgery on under 16s. Literally never happened once in our country. It’s a straw man they use because they’re either uneducated or intentionally disingenuous. I try not to engage at length with them on the issue as they clearly don’t have the facts and just want to spew hate. Bravo for attempting to educate.

https://washingtonstand.com/comment...perform-gender-transition-surgeries-on-minors

"The Gender and Sexuality Service at NYU Langone’s Hassenfeld Children’s Hospital (New York, N.Y.) will perform “gender-affirming medical interventions” on a “child, adolescent, or young adult,” working with health insurers “to obtain approvals for presurgical and surgical procedures.” The sizable “Gender and Sexuality Service Team” of nearly 19 doctors include four who represent plastic and reconstructive surgery.

"Doernbecher Children’s Hospital (Portland, Ore., Beaverton, Ore.) offers “a full range of services for transgender and gender-nonconforming children and teens,” including hormone treatments, surgery, and handouts with tips on how to appear more like the opposite sex. They “evaluate surgery for teens on an individual basis.”

"The Gender Clinic at Seattle Children’s Hospital (Seattle, Wash.) accepts “new patients ages 9 to 16.” The services they provide include “puberty blockers,” “gender-affirming hormones,” and “gender-affirming surgery.” While gender transition procedures for minors require parental consent, “Washington state privacy laws limit parent and caregiver access to adolescents’ health information. … The patient chooses whether to consent to releasing medical information.”

 

[Lost In FL]

That's fine, Dion, but what kind of parent would  want to take a kid to see this foolishness? Moreover, what kid would want to go? I guarantee you I would've gone ballistic as a kid if I had to go watch this nonsense.

Let's face it, these shows are pretty gay. Not even gay, as in homosexual. Gay, as in cheesy, corny, and lame. The only kids who want to like this crap are the same kids who really, really like the Rocky Horror Picture Show. The weirdos.

So dion will not object if parents took their kids to see porn or take drugs or whatever. But if parents take their kids to church ... bridge too far.

Sorry, dion your position is extreme and irresponsible. Your devotion to that extreme stance is what is destroying civil society and civil discourse. Congrats

 

[BlueRunner11]

https://washingtonstand.com/comment...perform-gender-transition-surgeries-on-minors

"The Gender and Sexuality Service at NYU Langone’s Hassenfeld Children’s Hospital (New York, N.Y.) will perform “gender-affirming medical interventions” on a “child, adolescent, or young adult,” working with health insurers “to obtain approvals for presurgical and surgical procedures.” The sizable “Gender and Sexuality Service Team” of nearly 19 doctors include four who represent plastic and reconstructive surgery.

"Doernbecher Children’s Hospital (Portland, Ore., Beaverton, Ore.) offers “a full range of services for transgender and gender-nonconforming children and teens,” including hormone treatments, surgery, and handouts with tips on how to appear more like the opposite sex. They “evaluate surgery for teens on an individual basis.”

"The Gender Clinic at Seattle Children’s Hospital (Seattle, Wash.) accepts “new patients ages 9 to 16.” The services they provide include “puberty blockers,” “gender-affirming hormones,” and “gender-affirming surgery.” While gender transition procedures for minors require parental consent, “Washington state privacy laws limit parent and caregiver access to adolescents’ health information. … The patient chooses whether to consent to releasing medical information.”

Just another progressive attempt at a Jedi mind trick.

“No one is trying to to do this or that” when in fact, that’s exactly what they’re trying to do and what all the fuss is about in the first place.

 

[Lost In FL]

Nobody is doing bottom surgery on under 16s. Literally never happened once in our country. It’s a straw man they use because they’re either uneducated or intentionally disingenuous. I try not to engage at length with them on the issue as they clearly don’t have the facts and just want to spew hate. Bravo for attempting to educate.

Lie

 

[Dionysus444]

https://washingtonstand.com/comment...perform-gender-transition-surgeries-on-minors

"The Gender and Sexuality Service at NYU Langone’s Hassenfeld Children’s Hospital (New York, N.Y.) will perform “gender-affirming medical interventions” on a “child, adolescent, or young adult,” working with health insurers “to obtain approvals for presurgical and surgical procedures.” The sizable “Gender and Sexuality Service Team” of nearly 19 doctors include four who represent plastic and reconstructive surgery.

"Doernbecher Children’s Hospital (Portland, Ore., Beaverton, Ore.) offers “a full range of services for transgender and gender-nonconforming children and teens,” including hormone treatments, surgery, and handouts with tips on how to appear more like the opposite sex. They “evaluate surgery for teens on an individual basis.”

"The Gender Clinic at Seattle Children’s Hospital (Seattle, Wash.) accepts “new patients ages 9 to 16.” The services they provide include “puberty blockers,” “gender-affirming hormones,” and “gender-affirming surgery.” While gender transition procedures for minors require parental consent, “Washington state privacy laws limit parent and caregiver access to adolescents’ health information. … The patient chooses whether to consent to releasing medical information.”

Find one case of bottom surgery on an under 16 then. A single one.

 

[Dionysus444]

So dion will not object if parents took their kids to see porn or take drugs or whatever. But if parents take their kids to church ... bridge too far.

Sorry, dion your position is extreme and irresponsible. Your devotion to that extreme stance is what is destroying civil society and civil discourse. Congrats

? That's the point. I'm not trying to criminalize church. You're criminalizing drag. Y'all're the tyrants while screaming about being the victims. The victims are who they always are, marginalized communities. Criminalizing religion for children is a 'how would you like it?' example, not an action plan.

 

[BigBlueDave]

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"hunter" laptop was a setup. Ghouliani is such a pathetic stooge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/giuliani-biden-ukraine-russian-disinformation/2020/10/15/43158900-0ef5-11eb-b1e8-16b59b92b36d_story.html

I can’t tell you how much I’m enjoying The whole theory of Biden dropping off a laptop to a store to get it fixed (who does that anymore) and the blind owner somehow saw what was on it and turned it in to the FBI. Watching you guys eat it up is like Christmas coming early. Honestly I can’t thank you and OANN enough!

Except there’s nothing to the hunter story. Legit news won’t cover it, that’s why only fake news like newsmax and OANN cover it for the MAGA morons

Hunter isn’t on the ballot. Again, nobody believes that shit except the cult.

Almost like everything he says is a lie but we already knew that, including all this fake Biden news. What a failed October surprise. Biden’s son giving his laptop to a blind guy to fix? Lmaaaoooo

Like the Hunter Biden laptop that only 1 news source has reported on?

Oh man...this thread is WILD.

it’s interesting to see how righteously indignant people will get while forgetting their own sitting president has lied or misrepresented the truth over 20,000 times in the last four years

but meanwhile you’re losing your ever loving minds about a three year old laptop with dubious origins and emails that I could fake Myself?

you guys can’t even come up with something useful about joe Biden so you have to focus on his dead son and his addict son. Nice.

What is scary to me is that you can go off on fringe websites with 10% of the population that thinks exactly like yourself and then radicalize each other into believing that the rest of the world is lying and you all have the only source of truth. Trumpism is an offshoot of this, but it has really become a religion. It is now complete with it's own militias and everything. You have been brainwashed by conspiracy and lies and the rest of us have no idea how to fix it. We are just living with the consequences.

Even Fox News didn’t want to run with it because it lacked credibility. There’s a reason the only organization that would take the story is a tabloid and even then many people at the company didn’t even want to put their name on it.

It’s the same shit that the Republican Senators twice said isn’t true after doing their own investigations of it.

But it’s fine if you want to believe in a fairy tale. That’s your choice.

It’s not a stance, it’s merely a statement of fact.

You treat your politics like we all treat our sports teams. Just like no Louisville fan values our judgment on their teams and none of us care what they think about UK, you are that way about being a Republican. Everything they do is good and everything Democrats do is bad. Because of this those of us in the middle cannot trust your judgment on these types of issues. We need real facts and a computer from a dime store repair shop owned by a Trump supporter and presented by Rudy Giuliani and reported only by a company owned by Rupert Murdoch that is basically a conservative tabloid is just not a reliable source of evidence in relation to allegations against Joe Biden's son. I hope you understand why this is true.

 

[warrior-cat]

So she's a straight teen who desperately seeks attention. Not unusual and pretty common. Sick libs just changed the outlet for those kids in hopes of grooming them. These adults are bizarre and sick.

Then you have some of these parents (not your family per se) that are essentially expressing munchausen by proxy and this is the new vehicle for that illness.

It's an insidiously move by libs to capitalize on emotional unwell people for political benefit.

My wife's side of the family here. Her sister's kids (17 and 12) both girls have gone all in as has their mother. She has lived off of the dole for a while before her father came back into her life after 30 years or more. Now they live with him, and he pays the bills. You know the type.

 

[Lost In FL]

? That's the point. I'm not trying to criminalize church. You're criminalizing drag. Y'all're the tyrants while screaming about being the victims. The victims are who they always are, marginalized communities. Criminalizing religion for children is a 'how would you like it?' example, not an action plan.

Another lie. You are all over it today.

Yes, your side absolutely is trying to criminalize "normal" behavior. Dude, if you are just going to flat out LIE then there really is no need to carry on a conversation.

Groomer