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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
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Obviously you're entitled to your opinion but you know that isn't a reason to criminalize it. We're here in the first place because we like college football and basketball. Most people don't know wtf that is and would look at you like you're crazy for watching it, let alone attending games or posting on message boards about it. To each his own. All drag is not stripping or abuse. If you Karens want to put warning labels on it, whatever that's on you. But outlawing dressing up as the opposite sex is not the way forward for society. Women didn't wear pants until very recently, now it's completely normal. Everyone used to wear togas. We should not be passing laws on what people can wear. We have much bigger issues in our country and society and on our planet.
First and foremost, you are making a grevious error to assume that I like college basketball.
 
? That's the point. I'm not trying to criminalize church. You're criminalizing drag. Y'all're the tyrants while screaming about being the victims. The victims are who they always are, marginalized communities. Criminalizing religion for children is a 'how would you like it?' example, not an action plan.
Criminalizing Lewd Drag SHOWS performed to an audience of CHILDREN. That is what's being debated. Not the practice of Drag in general. how many times do you have to be told that. Strippers can't Strip in public and/or in front of children. That's considered Statutory Rape or Indecent Exposure, there are laws on the books for both. Yet Strippers aren't outlawed now are they. They have certain establishments that cater to them and allow them to do what they do and make a living at it, all away from the impressionable eyes of young children.
 
I have never said permanent surgery under 18 is not up for debate. I can see both sides of the argument for that aspect of this law.
What is unacceptable is removing all medical services including the use of puberty blockers. In essence, you are absolutely destroying a trans kid's ability to even try to appear as their preferred sex even at 18.
A male will grow wide shoulders, adams apple, larger frame, jaw and protruding brow bone. Then when they turn 18 they will need additional surgery to correct all of that in order to pass and be content with their appearance.
They should allow puberty blockers until 18 then they can move forward one way or the other without additional stress and costly surgery. That keeps permanent changes in check but also allows for those hell bent on transitioning.

I get the permanent surgery postpone thing argument. I get the trans sports thing (It actually DOES affect others so that's fair).
But at the end of the day how bout you Pubs just mind your own GDamn business and leave people the F alone unless it affects you (trans sports).
Everything else in this law is just f'ing with other people's lives unnecessarily.

Funny how you felt the exact opposite about.masks and vaccines, you evil 'it'.
 
Criminalizing Lewd Drag SHOWS performed to an audience of CHILDREN. That is what's being debated. Not the practice of Drag in general. how many times do you have to be told that. Strippers can't Strip in public and/or in front of children. That's considered Statutory Rape or Indecent Exposure, there are laws on the books for both. Yet Strippers aren't outlawed now are they. They have certain establishments that cater to them and allow them to do what they do and make a living at it, all away from the impressionable eyes of young children.
No it's criminalizing drag done in public spaces by reclassifying drag as stripping. If RuPaul does an appearance on local news it could be interpreted that way. Or local queens do an appearance at a business opening. I'm not advocating for shaking dildos or fake tits at children. But if someone chooses to attend a drag brunch event that is their personal responsibility. You say you want less state intervention in peoples' lives. Practice what you preach.
 
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Let's face it, these shows are pretty gay. Not even gay, as in homosexual. Gay, as in cheesy, corny, and lame. The only kids who want to like this crap are the same kids who really, really like the Rocky Horror Picture Show. The weirdos.
You just described a prominent UK Sports Talk Show Host who showcases this type of show and activity.

We have them in our midst.
 
? That's the point. I'm not trying to criminalize church. You're criminalizing drag. Y'all're the tyrants while screaming about being the victims. The victims are who they always are, marginalized communities. Criminalizing religion for children is a 'how would you like it?' example, not an action plan.
No, the majority wants Drag Shows criminalized for minors. Minors. If you are not a minor, you can probably find one in a place near to you. Go for it. But if you see a minor in the place let someone know.

It is simple. Drag Shows should be confined to buidlngs with large signs plain and simple. No Minors Allowed. No Drag Shows in the middle of main street, any open air place such as a park or near school grounds. Keep DraG Shows inside where all of the sexual perverts can be contained.
 
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He wasn’t successful only because his Vice President refused to do it. How many times is that going to hold up? If Biden does the exact same in 2024 when he loses, but Harris recognizes his alternate electors, making him president, you’ll be totally fine with that? Insanity.

Only because his coup failed. Had Pence gone along with it or they been able to sweep him aside in the chaos and get his replacement, president pro tempore Chuck Grassley, to do it he never would have. (Grassley also accidentally spilled the beans the day before, saying about Pence, “We don’t expect him to be there” meaning the job of counting votes falls to him.)
Speaking of Harris...



You can't make this stuff up.
 
We are told that .003% to .005% of the population identifies as dysphoric, yet we are to believe youth suicide attempts are happening every 45 seconds? You may want to evaluate the motives and methods of your source.
Is that worldwide or US?

If there are 6 billion people on the earth (maybe more)

That would be 64 a day world wide

This might be off but I think 2 people die worldwide every 1.5 seconds.
 
No it's criminalizing drag done in public spaces by reclassifying drag as stripping. If RuPaul does an appearance on local news it could be interpreted that way. Or local queens do an appearance at a business opening. I'm not advocating for shaking dildos or fake tits at children. But if someone chooses to attend a drag brunch event that is their personal responsibility. You say you want less state intervention in peoples' lives. Practice what you preach.
This kind of lame response is what happens when you cede core values.

If a dad took a kid to a strip club, there’d likely be an abuse report made. And should be. Nobody here disagrees with that.

But you, somehow, think if he takes a kid to see grown men shaking dildos at kids, that’s perfectly fine.

Just so we are all clear, do I have this right?
 
This kind of lame response is what happens when you cede core values.

If a dad took a kid to a strip club, there’d likely be an abuse report made. And should be. Nobody here disagrees with that.

But you, somehow, think if he takes a kid to see grown men shaking dildos at kids, that’s perfectly fine.

Just so we are all clear, do I have this right?
Drag is not all dildos. You’re demonizing an entire cultural art form because you don’t understand it. Drag and sexual content inappropriate for children are separate things. Some drag is for adults only just like some movies are for adults only. Or comedy. Some drag is completely innocuous and perfectly fine for children. Criminalizing all of it is massive overreach that will backfire. The original KY law even banned all drag from within 1000 ft of schools, churches, homes, and parks, functionally banning it from almost the entire state.
 
Wasn't Greta pretty much a toddler when Soros and Co. initially foisted her upon everyone as some kind of climate expert?
Speaking of that. Here's a rabbit hole to go down.



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The more I dug into @GretaThunberg's story, the more I realized that something stinks here. It's no COINCIDENCE that her first appearance was on August 20, 2018, with a sit-in protest in front of the Swedish Parliament, followed COINCIDENTALLY four days later by the release of a book she co-authored with her mother. But that's not all - the PR machine for her was already in full swing on August 20, thanks to a man named Ingmar Rentzhog, who financed and drove the campaign through his company,
@WeDontHaveTime

. And guess what? Rentzhog is also COINCIDENTALLY the chairman of the think tank "Global Challenge" (
@ChallengesFnd), which is now COINCIDENTALLY fully financed by a billionaire named Kristine Person, a member of the Swedish Social Democratic Workers' Party and former minister in the government under Stefan Löfven. And if that's not enough, Rentzhog purely COINCIDENTALLY happened to walk by the Swedish Parliament on August 20 and encounter Greta during her sit-in protest, taking a photograph of her.

But wait, there's more - Rentzhog and Greta's mother had already met before at a climate conference on May 4, 2018, which is COINCIDENTALLY the exact date when Rentzhog became CEO of the aforementioned think tank. And here's something interesting - both Kristine Person and Stefan Löfven happen to be members of Klaus Schwab's @WEF

. It's amazing how all these connections seem to come full circle, isn't it? It's clear to me that something fishy is going on behind the scenes here. These people are manipulating the public and abusing their power for their own political gain. We need to be aware of their tactics and warn everybody we know about the Great Reset and the Fourth Industrial Revolution."
 
A little local Repub info for those that are concerned...

Cameron leading Craft currently by 7-9 points.

Kelly has a couple of million ready to roll with over the next 60 days.

Quarels has some ground to make up but probably bringing up the rear at this time.

Beshear going to be tough to beat given he is spending like it grows on trees. The floods, tornadoes, etc, definitely helped his cause. What will be interesting is if the rumor that he might be on a Presidential ticket gains traction before the Gov election. Pubs need a huge turnout in Nov.
 
A little local Repub info for those that are concerned...

Cameron leading Craft currently by 7-9 points.

Kelly has a couple of million ready to roll with over the next 60 days.

Quarels has some ground to make up but probably bringing up the rear at this time.

Beshear going to be tough to beat given he is spending like it grows on trees. The floods, tornadoes, etc, definitely helped his cause. What will be interesting is if the rumor that he might be on a Presidential ticket gains traction before the Gov election. Pubs need a huge turnout in Nov.


Not that it will matter, but I am leaning Craft as of now..
 
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Drag is not all dildos. You’re demonizing an entire cultural art form because you don’t understand it. Drag and sexual content inappropriate for children are separate things. Some drag is for adults only just like some movies are for adults only. Or comedy. Some drag is completely innocuous and perfectly fine for children. Criminalizing all of it is massive overreach that will backfire. The original KY law even banned all drag from within 1000 ft of schools, churches, homes, and parks, functionally banning it from almost the entire state.
This isn’t opera, man. I think we all understand it pretty well. Men dressed as women who perform, sometimes suggestively.

Maybe I’m missing something. Has it been criminalized?

And why is it that you think it even became an issue? Are you honest enough to answer that?
 
Nobody is doing bottom surgery on under 16s. Literally never happened once in our country. It’s a straw man they use because they’re either uneducated or intentionally disingenuous. I try not to engage at length with them on the issue as they clearly don’t have the facts and just want to spew hate. Bravo for attempting to educate.
I am confused by why you would care that prepubescent surgical interventions could be outlawed if no one is doing those surgeries.
 
The dumbest move in the history of the United States Military No screw up in battle, no failure to understand intelligence reports, .nothing equals this.

If we were a just nation that would have been enough to remove a President from office. It was absolutely the decision of a fool or someone who is deliberately destroying America. I honestly feel we have 2 in 1 in the Oval Office.
 
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