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These are cold hard facts being posted. Yet @Dionysus444 or @jameslee32 and others on here will jump all over calling people who post these facts or mention them racists. @Dionysus444 (I typically refer to you because you’re one of the few I’m not ignoring) can you explain why pointing these facts out is racist? And why the Democrats would rather bury or hide these facts instead of recognizing the facts and putting forth real efforts to curb these facts? Republicans post these facts, not because of racism, But because we want it to stop! We value those lives that are being lost. We want it to be recognized and we want those in charge of those communities to be held accountable for ignoring the problems and allowing them to get worse. As a Republican I don’t profess to know the solution or how to put an end to the problem, but the first step is recognizing and acknowledging it. Something Democrat leaders in the communities plagued by those problems refuse to do.
 
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Such giant pussies. The virtue signaling and crying over people getting to speak. People you don’t even have to follow. It’s like trying to get a show canceled that you don’t even watch.

STFU. No one is censoring you. It’s others who have been censored and targeted by the left.
Very much a sign of weakness when you don’t want your opinions questioned.
 
These are cold hard facts being posted. Yet @Dionysus444 or @jameslee32 and others on here will jump all over calling people who post these facts or mention them racists. @Dionysus444 (I typically refer to you because you’re one of the few I’m not ignoring) can you explain why pointing these facts out is racist? And why the Democrats would rather bury or hide these facts instead of recognizing the facts and putting forth real efforts to curb these facts? Republicans post these facts, not because of racism, But because we want it to stop! We value those lives that are being lost. We want it to be recognized and we want those in charge of those communities to be held accountable for ignoring the problems and allowing them to get worse. As a Republican I don’t profess to know the solution or how to put an end to the problem, but the first step is recognizing and acknowledging it. Something Democrat leaders in the communities plagued by those problems refuse to do.

Oh, the facts aren’t racist. The people who came up with the facts are racist because they didn’t account for the white privilege embedded in the system that is creating high rates of black on black violence.
 
These are cold hard facts being posted. Yet @Dionysus444 or @jameslee32 and others on here will jump all over calling people who post these facts or mention them racists. @Dionysus444 (I typically refer to you because you’re one of the few I’m not ignoring) can you explain why pointing these facts out is racist? And why the Democrats would rather bury or hide these facts instead of recognizing the facts and putting forth real efforts to curb these facts? Republicans post these facts, not because of racism, But because we want it to stop! We value those lives that are being lost. We want it to be recognized and we want those in charge of those communities to be held accountable for ignoring the problems and allowing them to get worse. As a Republican I don’t profess to know the solution or how to put an end to the problem, but the first step is recognizing and acknowledging it. Something Democrat leaders in the communities plagued by those problems refuse to do.
Happens every day in this country and libs don't say a damn thing. George fentanyl Floyd dies of a drug overdose and all hell breaks lose.

 
I had this crazy idea that you guys would take one day off of the usual hate and just sit back and relax and enjoy a peaceful Thanksgiving dinner under the grace and bounty our great Democratic Party has provided you.

Give thanks. Be happy. Joe's got this.
 
These are cold hard facts being posted. Yet @Dionysus444 or @jameslee32 and others on here will jump all over calling people who post these facts or mention them racists. @Dionysus444 (I typically refer to you because you’re one of the few I’m not ignoring) can you explain why pointing these facts out is racist? And why the Democrats would rather bury or hide these facts instead of recognizing the facts and putting forth real efforts to curb these facts? Republicans post these facts, not because of racism, But because we want it to stop! We value those lives that are being lost. We want it to be recognized and we want those in charge of those communities to be held accountable for ignoring the problems and allowing them to get worse. As a Republican I don’t profess to know the solution or how to put an end to the problem, but the first step is recognizing and acknowledging it. Something Democrat leaders in the communities plagued by those problems refuse to do.
You said it yourself. You don’t offer any solutions. You just want to demonize a group because you think they’re responsible for the situation they find themselves when in reality you are. Violence in the black community is because of American policy; from slavery to Jim Crow to the War on Drugs. They aren’t shooting people because they enjoy it. It’s the price of doing the business we assigned them. Just like the cartels. Solution: legalize drugs and pay the reparations we originally promised for work provided.
 
You said it yourself. You don’t offer any solutions. You just want to demonize a group because you think they’re responsible for the situation they find themselves when in reality you are. Violence in the black community is because of American policy, from slavery to Jim Crow to the War on Drugs. They aren’t shooting people because they enjoy it. It’s the price of doing the business we assigned them. Just like the cartels. Solution: legalize drugs and pay the reparations we originally promised for work provided.
Hahahaha I nailed it
 
After living through the last decade, I have no doubts which people would’ve supported and followed Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Silencing people. Going after anyone who dissents from the government BS. Targeting political opposition. Reporting neighbors.

The Left thinking they’re the good guys is so insane.
 
After living through the last decade, I have no doubts which people would’ve supported and followed Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Silencing people. Going after anyone who dissents from the government BS. Targeting political opposition. Reporting neighbors.

The Left thinking they’re the good guys is so insane.
Ditto just switch the sides. Except conservatives being trash has been obvious far longer than just the last decade.
 
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Solution: legalize drugs and pay the reparations we originally promised for work provided.
Very naive because if it ever happens the Democratic Party will never win another election and that's the cold hard truth. You're saying things that make you feel better about yourself but is political suicide to even say out loud.

A better more practical idea that will actually work and be politically viable is to first teach kids in every public school in America what they are required to do by law when approached and questioned by the police. Black people in particular in most of the horrific confrontations I've seen believe that if they didn't commit a crime or do anything wrong then the police have no right to question or detain them which is simply not true. From there and from those initial mistakes everything else spirals out of control:

1) If a police officer approaches you and wants to ask you questions but you do not want to talk to them then ask them if you are being detained. If they say "yes" then say "OK, but I do not talk to the police without a lawyer present, am I free to go?" Then repeat that until they say you can go.

2) Any deviation from the above or the police do or say something they shouldn't, go to the police station with a witness and file a complaint formally. It might not do anything about your individual situation, but if enough people do this then it will force things to change. Understand the change will be slow but be patient and above all else, persistent.

3) Your community is your own and it will be more safe if you have a spirit of cooperating with the police. The next two steps will improve that community cooperation.

4) Staff police with people from or near the community with an understanding of that community. No more dropping white midwestern kids fresh out of the military off into urban minority communities as that is a disastrous thing to do. We don't take urban black kids and drop them off in Appalachia and expect them to be successful so why think the reverse will be?

5) Minority communities are over-policed. Way too many traffic stops. Way too much police interaction. Let the people breath. If I couldn't go down to the store without getting stopped 50% of the time and if I got a ticket coming home from work 3 or 4 times a year I would get fed up pretty quickly with that. I realize traffic stops solve a lot of crime, but the primary focus of policing minority communities must focus on gang activity. Until we get a handle on the gangs and establish community where it is safe to report a crime, then all our other efforts will be wasted.

6) Demilitarize the police. Too many police now look like soldiers. There is a military look and feel to many police departments that makes communities look and feel like occupied territories. The fundamental role of a police force is to protect and serve a community and they need to look and act like it. Make the community safer. Make it possible for good people to thrive. Nothing is possible in any community that is controlled by gang activity.

How many times have "black leaders" even tried to come on television after some awful tragedy and talk to young black men about what they are required to do when confronted by a police officer? You see this continuing tragedy of people mistakenly believing that if they didn't do anything wrong then they can confront, walk away from (or run), or even much, much worse, physically attack a police officer. We strap a gun on these people and we tell them to go out there and wade into danger to protect us all. There is a bargain that must be made with them to do that. To accept that just for a job they might not go home to their families again. Warts and all we give them the benefit of the doubt because we have to.
 
Very naive because if it ever happens the Democratic Party will never win another election and that's the cold hard truth. You're saying things that make you feel better about yourself but is political suicide to even say out loud.

A better more practical idea that will actually work and be politically viable is to first teach kids in every public school in America what they are required to do by law when approached and questioned by the police. Black people in particular in most of the horrific confrontations I've seen believe that if they didn't commit a crime or do anything wrong then the police have no right to question or detain them which is simply not true. From there and from those initial mistakes everything else spirals out of control:

1) If a police officer approaches you and wants to ask you questions but you do not want to talk to them then ask them if you are being detained. If they say "yes" then say "OK, but I do not talk to the police without a lawyer present, am I free to go?" Then repeat that until they say you can go.

2) Any deviation from the above or the police do or say something they shouldn't, go to the police station with a witness and file a complaint formally. It might not do anything about your individual situation, but if enough people do this then it will force things to change. Understand the change will be slow but be patient and above all else, persistent.

3) Your community is your own and it will be more safe if you have a spirit of cooperating with the police. The next two steps will improve that community cooperation.

4) Staff police with people from or near the community with an understanding of that community. No more dropping white midwestern kids fresh out of the military off into urban minority communities as that is a disastrous thing to do. We don't take urban black kids and drop them off in Appalachia and expect them to be successful so why think the reverse will be?

5) Minority communities are over-policed. Way too many traffic stops. Way too much police interaction. Let the people breath. If I couldn't go down to the store without getting stopped 50% of the time and if I got a ticket coming home from work 3 or 4 times a year I would get fed up pretty quickly with that. I realize traffic stops solve a lot of crime, but the primary focus of policing minority communities must focus on gang activity. Until we get a handle on the gangs and establish community where it is safe to report a crime, then all our other efforts will be wasted.

6) Demilitarize the police. Too many police now look like soldiers. There is a military look and feel to many police departments that makes communities look and feel like occupied territories. The fundamental role of a police force is to protect and serve a community and they need to look and act like it. Make the community safer. Make it possible for good people to thrive. Nothing is possible in any community that is controlled by gang activity.

How many times have "black leaders" even tried to come on television after some awful tragedy and talk to young black men about what they are required to do when confronted by a police officer? You see this continuing tragedy of people mistakenly believing that if they didn't do anything wrong then they can confront, walk away from (or run), or even much, much worse, physically attack a police officer. We strap a gun on these people and we tell them to go out there and wade into danger to protect us all. There is a bargain that must be made with them to do that. To accept that just for a job they might not go home to their families again. Warts and all we give them the benefit of the doubt because we have to.
No, I’m saying the truth even though it isn’t politically convenient. Some of us are more interested in fixing problems than winning elections sorry.
 
Warts and all we give them the benefit of the doubt because we have to.
Nope. Police officers are given special authority to enforce laws and to do so with force. That extra power comes with extra responsibilities. The benefit of the doubt always rests with the untrained and unpaid public, not officers.
 
I had this crazy idea that you guys would take one day off of the usual hate and just sit back and relax and enjoy a peaceful Thanksgiving dinner under the grace and bounty our great Democratic Party has provided you.

Give thanks. Be happy. Joe's got this.
Imagine it's so bad you don't know what to say so the WH gives you propaganda

 
People of the Sun are peaceful and loving. Ice people are full of hate.
I just answered it man. White supremacy. High Black violent crime is the cause from white supremacy effects on the past, post, current system.

How to fix it? We gotta do something about white people other than tax them for reparations. We need something more effective.
You love talking about black crime but go silent when asked why it exists or how to address it. Stay that way.
 
You love talking about black crime but go silent when asked why it exists or how to address it. Stay that way.
The welfare state is the main cause. The replacement of fathers with the government. The welfare state needs to be replaced. Some type of alternative needs to be tried. Women having eight children and not being able to control the males is a large part of this. You keep implying that I think it's racial. It's actually your liberal policies.
 
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You love talking about black crime but go silent when asked why it exists or how to address it. Stay that way.

Just answered it. White supremacy. And I gave a solution on how to fix it. In a nutshell, get rid of the white people and black crime will drop to 0% towards others and their own community.

Essentially, it will be a Heavenly Wakanda
 
The welfare state is the main cause. The replacement of fathers with the government. The welfare state needs to be replaced. Some type of alternative needs to be tried. Women having eight children and not being able to control the males is a large part of this. You keep implying that I think it's racial. It's actually your liberal policies.
Why have these policies only affected the black community as such then and not all races?
 
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