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How will they rule ??!

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    Votes: 41 82.0%

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    Votes: 9 18.0%
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Bill Derington said:
Who’s pumping him? Literally every major news media.
I like the guy, I just don’t think he’d win in 24. It’s going to take someone that can reach the blue collar workers again, and I don’t think 24 is long enough to convince the Republican Party outside of Trump, is in their corner.
Desantis was elected to Congress in 2012, how did he vote? You can bet your ass that will be brought up, his tendencies before Trump was elected.
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I havent anyone pumping him. Saw plenty attacking him including latching on to every loony they can in hopes of finding something they can use. None of it panned out.

Another personal checkmark for desantis over trump is the handling of covid. Trump should've never turned the country over to Fauci. He knew the election could be a referendum on covid and it was the only time he acted like a politician. It cost him. Then he vastly multiplied that error by handing out stimulus which started the labor shortage and fed the socialist machine. He should've take 15-30 days max then said back to normal hell or high water.
 
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bigblueinsanity said:
Then he lost. Desantis isn't an old school Republican, not by a long shot. He has all the positives of trump with none of the baggage and none of the unnecessary quarrels that trump would start on social media.

Libs are terrified of him. They spent 24/7 for months trying to destroy him on his covid freedom. Google even completely created and gifted to a lunatic in Florida a ln entire set up to provide the "real" numbers because everyone was convinced he was lying. Of course she was a legit crazy person so eventually that all faded away.

I will absolutely vote trump and he should win. It's just going to be much harder than it could or should be. If desantis runs it's a cake walk
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Agreed... but.... The media is gonna full press Desantis. They tried to frame Trump for colluding with Russia. They went as far as to frame a 30 year military vet as a traitor. A guy that had served several combat tours for this country and the fbi, doj and dnc were willing to put him in jail for nothing, just to get Trump. You think they won't just make up shit on Ron? And when Ron defends himself... You think they won't blame him for being divisive and combative?

I get the Trump couldn't take a win and would shoot his own foot but people that think that would matter are fooling themselves. They will make up some insane stuff about Ron until they find something to investigate him on then they will use the investigation to attack him. That is the new dem way. If we elected John Mccain they'd do the same thing. They aren't willing to take a loss anymore.
 
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I'm unsure why ppl on here seem scared to go full on behind DeSantis. He knows how to govern way better than trump and its not as if he can't handle the media. Not to mention independents and suburban women (which didn't vote for trump) will for DeSantis.

Yes...as soon as he runs they'll print "worse than hitler" headlines...no one buys the press' narratives anymore except dumb libs who would vote for a dead body if it has a D beside its name. (They have one in office now). It will ramp up more as they know they're losing their grip. Oddly enough libs are so dumb they blindly support the "man" aka the establishment. True NPC's
 
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UKBrassowTipIN said:
I'm unsure why ppl on here seem scared to go full on behind DeSantis. He knows how to govern way better than trump and its not as if he can't handle the media. Not to mention independents and suburban women (which didn't vote for trump) will for DeSantis.

Yes...as soon as he runs they'll print "worse than hitler" headlines...no one buys the press' narratives anymore except dumb libs who would vote for a dead body if it has a D beside its name. (They have one in office now). It will ramp up more as they know they're losing their grip. Oddly enough libs are so dumb they blindly support the "man" aka the establishment. True NPC's
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He has said he isn't running and people around him say he won't run against Trump because he doesn't want to split the party. His kid is playing sports and his wife just got over cancer. 2028 is when he's going to run unless something weird happens. Why talk about something that is unlikely to happen an allow it to hinder a better outcome for our country in 2024?
 
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bigblueinsanity said:
I havent anyone pumping him. Saw plenty attacking him including latching on to every loony they can in hopes of finding something they can use. None of it panned out.

Another personal checkmark for desantis over trump is the handling of covid. Trump should've never turned the country over to Fauci. He knew the election could be a referendum on covid and it was the only time he acted like a politician. It cost him. Then he vastly multiplied that error by handing out stimulus which started the labor shortage and fed the socialist machine. He should've take 15-30 days max then said back to normal hell or high water.
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Trump did want the Country wide open, the state Governors kept them shutdown.

Desantis will lose if he runs in 24, it’s not “ suburban women” that elected Trump, it’s blue collar America. Suburban women didn’t elect Biden, absentee ballot fraud did.
 
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hmt5000 said:
Agreed... but.... The media is gonna full press Desantis. They tried to frame Trump for colluding with Russia. They went as far as to frame a 30 year military vet as a traitor. A guy that had served several combat tours for this country and the fbi, doj and dnc were willing to put him in jail for nothing, just to get Trump. You think they won't just make up shit on Ron? And when Ron defends himself... You think they won't blame him for being divisive and combative?

I get the Trump couldn't take a win and would shoot his own foot but people that think that would matter are fooling themselves. They will make up some insane stuff about Ron until they find something to investigate him on then they will use the investigation to attack him. That is the new dem way. If we elected John Mccain they'd do the same thing. They aren't willing to take a loss anymore.
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They already started with the deathsantis. He handled it perfectly and came out on top.

Bill Derington said:
Trump did want the Country wide open, the state Governors kept them shutdown.

Desantis will lose if he runs in 24, it’s not “ suburban women” that elected Trump, it’s blue collar America. Suburban women didn’t elect Biden, absentee ballot fraud did.
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He agreed to the initial lockdown then agreed to the additional mitigation period. He and Mitch then started the stimulus and the bail out of the states, which helped them stay locked down.

I like much of what he did and would vote for him again, but he absolutely mishandled covid by agreeing to lockdown.

Desantis would get every single voter trump would get....and more.
 
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bigblueinsanity said:
They already started with the deathsantis. He handled it perfectly and came out on top.



He agreed to the initial lockdown then agreed to the additional mitigation period. He and Mitch then started the stimulus and the bail out of the states, which helped them stay locked down.

I like much of what he did and would vote for him again, but he absolutely mishandled covid by agreeing to lockdown.

Desantis would get every single voter trump would get....and more.
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If he didn't challenge him in the primary. If Trump doesn't run for some reason, then everyone would jump on the Ron train. Trump got screwed and Ron isn't going to fight him for that spot. There are enough pissed off people that will look at any challene to Trump as a deep state trick that they would bolt.

Might as well ask who'd you rather date, Kate Upton or Nina Agdal. It doesn't matter what you think.... they are gonna decide who they are gonna date because it is them that has the decisions to make.
 
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hmt5000 said:
If he didn't challenge him in the primary. If Trump doesn't run for some reason, then everyone would jump on the Ron train. Trump got screwed and Ron isn't going to fight him for that spot. There are enough pissed off people that will look at any challene to Trump as a deep state trick that they would bolt.

Might as well ask who'd you rather date, Kate Upton or Nina Agdal. It doesn't matter what you think.... they are gonna decide who they are gonna date because it is them that has the decisions to make.
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I agree. They won't challenge each other.
 
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bigblueinsanity said:
They already started with the deathsantis. He handled it perfectly and came out on top.



He agreed to the initial lockdown then agreed to the additional mitigation period. He and Mitch then started the stimulus and the bail out of the states, which helped them stay locked down.

I like much of what he did and would vote for him again, but he absolutely mishandled covid by agreeing to lockdown.

Desantis would get every single voter trump would get....and more.
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The Governors would not open their States up.
No, Desantis wouldn’t, at least not in 2024. You seem to ignore that he was a US Congressman 4 years prior to Trump being POTUS, how did he vote? What did he run on?
 
Platinumdrgn said:
I finally see the light! This is all a Clinton plot! She had Beau killed so Biden wouldn't run in 2016. All so she could run and lose and make Trump President. So they could set him up for colluding with Russia and Ukraine. So they could finally impeach that bastard. So Pence would be the horrible 2020 nominee. And ALL of this so Warren could be the 1st female President! GENIUS! 10D chess!
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Bill Derington said:
Who’s pumping him? Literally every major news media.
I like the guy, I just don’t think he’d win in 24. It’s going to take someone that can reach the blue collar workers again, and I don’t think 24 is long enough to convince the Republican Party outside of Trump, is in their corner.
Desantis was elected to Congress in 2012, how did he vote? You can bet your ass that will be brought up, his tendencies before Trump was elected.
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As a Floridian I do not want DeSantis to run for President in 2024. His goal is to make Florida one of the deepest red states in the union and another four years may do it. We need him.

DeSantis is very popular with blue collar workers down here. Maybe the Midwest unions are not aware of what he does for the "average man" but the blue collar workers I deal with and know personally are 100% DeSantis. He has done more for them than any Governor is our history.

But we do have a very dishonest national media and they are lockstep with Democrats. They will attempt to destroy any Republican they see as a threat to their power and DeSantis is a huge threat to them. I prefer he remain in office and complete the job of eliminating as many Democrats as possible. He turned this state Red for the first time in history.
 
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Brett Baier trying to save his rep after realizing how bad he looked pushing that "secret witness" bombshell. Glad you are admitting what we all knew 6 months ago Brett. Way to be on the ball buddy.
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This is what the Democrats truly are. That's why once gun control starts it will all be taken. Yeah, you're just going to take the AR-15s aren't you Dems? They do not believe in freedom. They demonize any opposition.
 
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Bill Derington said:
The Governors would not open their States up.
No, Desantis wouldn’t, at least not in 2024. You seem to ignore that he was a US Congressman 4 years prior to Trump being POTUS, how did he vote? What did he run on?
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If trump cut off their free money they would've had to. All that stimulus started us down a path of destruction. I talked about it on here back then.

Below is desantis voting record while in Congress.

Ron DeSantis' congressional history

ballotpedia.org ballotpedia.org
 
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bigblueinsanity said:
If trump cut off their free money they would've had to. All that stimulus started us down a path of destruction. I talked about it on here back then.

Below is desantis voting record while in Congress.

Ron DeSantis' congressional history

ballotpedia.org ballotpedia.org
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No they wouldn’t have, they didn’t care how bad it hurt the citizens, their goal was to give an excuse for mass absentee voting. Once Biden was put in place the States would get their massive payoff, abd they did.

Desantis will be labeled an establishment, big business Republican, and he’ll lose the blue collar rust belt.
I like the guy, I just don’t think the old school Republicans will be all washed out by then, and he will absolutely be labeled that to union and blue collar workers.

This is the way I look at it, if Reagan had won the nomination in 76 he would’ve lost the election to Carter. Reagan was the same guy, but the Republican Party and the Country wasn’t ready for him. I like Desantis, a lot, and if he’s the nominee I’ll happily vote for him. I just don’t think he’ll win in 24.
 
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