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I continue to see these posts and hear people crow about instances when someone who was fully vaccinated, double boosted, etc… and “they still got Covid.”

It makes me think many people still don’t really understand vaccines, even after the intense worldwide attention that has ensued with Covid. To be fair, I think a lot of this blame falls on shoddy practices among the media who are admittedly not medical, but they have a habit of using terminology that can lead one to believe a vaccine will “protect you from infection.”

Infection and illness are two different things.

Vaccines do not prevent infection.

Vaccines, in varying degrees of effectiveness, are aimed at helping minimize severity of illness when/if infection occurs.

With Covid, “infection” was almost inevitable at some point in time for anyone not living in a bubble.

How ill you became from Covid infection is probably driven by countless variables that we may never fully elucidate and understand. It was easy to notice older, less healthy, immunocompromised people were more likely to suffer severe illness or death. What was more baffling was why some young, health people could be “infected” with Covid and never even have a hint of symptoms, while a similarly healthy individual would end up dying on a ventilator in the ICU.

There were probably lots of folks who got vaccinated who otherwise would have been just fine without it.

There were probably lots of folks got vaccinated and it was the difference between life and death for them when they eventually caught Covid.

There were also certainly some folks who got vaccinated and it didn’t matter; they were still unfortunately overcome by Covid.

And unfortunately there were probably lots of folks who never got vaccinated, and they very well could have avoided their deaths from Covid if they had been.

Anyway… carry on…

Disclosure:
Very conservative righty
Got vaccinated
Does not support vaccine mandates
Because it was never a "vaccine" and the definition was changed due to people continuing to get COVID despite doing all of the crap their masters told them to do.

Because if you could still get COVID, there was no need for mandates and absolute tyranny and the attempt to ostracize people from society or make them lose their jobs.

And there's absolutely no way to prove that "Oh, this would be worse if they weren't vaccinated" or "It kept them from dying." There's zero way of proving that's true because it's impossible to prove. The left tried to ruin everyone who didn't bend the knee and now we're just going to suddenly forget about their BS and all of their constantly changing narratives as they saw fit? They absolutely originally marketed this as "Not going to get COVID" and then changed it when they could not deny that. Biden even said it. CDC chair said it.
 
All well amd good, and understood.

The problem , the rub, if you will, is all these idiots getting bossted amd vaxxed and still getting it are the idiots who assured everyone the opposite of what you posted.

That if you get the vax, you won't get it. Period.
See, fauci, Biden, walensky and others about a year ago.
So, I do understand your point, and if the powers that be be had not assured everyone of the vax safety and efficacy, we might not be gloating when the idiots test positive for it.
Yep. Let's not forget their inconsistencies as well.

Group of lefties get exposed partying and maskless.

Spokesperson and pundits say it's okay because the people there were vaccinated.

So in one breath, you say you're protected and use it to justify not adhering to the mandates you try to force on others. Then in another breath when they get it, it's suddenly "No one said you wouldn't get it with the vaccine." Actually, many of you did and you're claiming the jab is like a forcefield when it's politically convenient for you when your hypocrisy is exposed.
 
Well, thank goodness for this. Yesterday when I paid double the normal amount for groceries and gas I thought to myself, Self, I sure hope the LGTBQZUYSHGUH crowd is doing alright. Then I thought, man I hope that Jan 6th stuff get sorted out soon.

I swear, these stupid F'ers are just digging their own graves. I wonder if the alphabet segment has heard of guilt by association? When SHTF, I wouldn't want to be associated with anything the dems are doing right now.

I refer them as the soup people to make sure you cover all the letters of the alphabet
 
Not just housing loans, all loans. If you are in debt, you are about to own nothing and be miserable about it.
Mines fixed at 3.25 so I guess I’m staying put for a while. Though now I have to replace my AC unit because it’s from 2008 and used Freon which isn’t made anymore. It’s currently low and would cost me almost as much to have it filled with some of the Freon that’s still floating around out there. Guy said about $1000 per pound of it.
 
In all seriousness, I have never been able to understand the drag queen story hour thing.

How in the hell did it even start, and who actually thinks there is a connection between drag queens and schools or libraries and young kids?

it just seems so random. I mean , why not Lumberjack story hour? Foot fetishist story hour? Furry story hour? Plastic fetishist story hour? Bestiality story hour? Necrophilia story hour?
It was started to groom children. Their president is now sitting in prison for possession of child porn that included toddler rape.

Don't overthink any of this kind of stuff. It is exactly what it looks like.
 
LOL. It's so true. The heavy sour crude we refine here in the US is the nastiest crap on earth. Think coal tar. It is full of sulfur and all sorts of other chemicals and metals that are deadly to people and the environment.

For years we have exported our sweet crude for a premium price while importing junk crude for next to nothing. Now we are screwed because our refineries can't handle sweet, and since the EPA won't give an inch, there is no way to easily fix the problem.

Don't think .gov doesn't know this. All this yip yap from president pudd'in head is just bluster so it looks like he is doing something.
 
I'll buy one of these before buying a damn electric car just on principle alone.

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Any lawyers here ever heard of a defense that says; the FDA knew about the fraud and was in on it, therefore, there isn't any fraud?

That is the exact excuse Pfizer is trying to use in court to get a whistleblower lawsuit dismissed. Thankfully, the judge wasn't trying to hear that and authorized discovery.


 
Here's a really good Ted Talk from about 3 years ago presented by an environmentalist about the viability of renewable energy and whether it is good for the environment. 17 minutes but it's worth it.

High points:
1. Renewables are not the answer.
2. Nuclear is literally emission-free and MUCH more efficient than renewables.
3. Nuclear, on its whole, has less impact on the environment, wildlife, etc. than renewables.
4. The presenter asks the question, "By trying to stop climate change with renewables, are we actually destroying the environment?"

Really informative.

 


This smarmy POS is moving up the list of scum at a fast clip.

Other than being the former Gov of Michigan I don't know much about her. What exactly does she know about energy? Unless I've missed something...Michigan is not a big energy producing state.

About like Mayor Pete. He saw a pot hole once in South Bend...which makes him a transportation expert.
 
I lifted this from another forum. no idea how factual it is but very alarming if true—

Here is a list of the U.S. food plants that her been destroyed:
1/11/21 A fire that destroyed 75,000-square-foot processing plant in Fayetteville
4/30/21 A fire ignited inside the Smithfield Foods pork processing plant in Monmouth, IL
7/25/21 Three-alarm fire at Kellogg plant in Memphis, 170 emergency personnel responded to the call
7/30/21 Firefighters on Friday battled a large fire at Tyson’s River Valley Ingredients plant in Hanceville, Alabama
8/23/21 Fire crews were called to the Patak Meat Production company on Ewing Road in Austell
9/13/21 A fire at the JBS beef plant in Grand Island, Neb., on Sunday night forced a halt to slaughter and fabrication lines
10/13/21 A five-alarm fire ripped through the Darigold butter production plant in Caldwell, ID
11/15/21 A woman is in custody following a fire at the Garrard County Food Pantry
11/29/21 A fire broke out around 5:30 p.m. at the Maid-Rite Steak Company meat processing plant
12/13/21 West Side food processing plant in San Antonio left with smoke damage after a fire
1/7/22 Damage to a poultry processing plant on Hamilton’s Mountain following an overnight fire
1/13/22 Firefighters worked for 12 hours to put a fire out at the Cargill-Nutrena plant in Lecompte, LA
1/31/22 a fertilizer plant with 600 tons of ammonium nitrate inside caught on fire on Cherry Street in Winston-Salem
2/3/22 A massive fire swept through Wisconsin River Meats in Mauston
2/3/22 At least 130 cows were killed in a fire at Percy Farm in Stowe
2/15/22 Bonanza Meat Company goes up in flames in El Paso, Texas
2/15/22 Nearly a week after the fire destroyed most of the Shearer’s Foods plant in Hermiston
2/16/22 A fire had broken at US largest soybean processing and biodiesel plant in Claypool, Indiana
2/18/22 An early morning fire tore through the milk parlor at Bess View Farm
2/19/22 Three people were injured, and one was hospitalized, after an ammonia leak at Lincoln Premium Poultry in Fremont
2/22/22 The Shearer’s Foods plant in Hermiston caught fire after a propane boiler exploded
2/28/22 A smoldering pile of sulfur quickly became a raging chemical fire at Nutrien Ag Solutions
2/28/22 A man was hurt after a fire broke out at the Shadow Brook Farm and Dutch Girl Creamery
3/4/22 294,800 chickens destroyed at farm in Stoddard, Missouri
3/4/22 644,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, Maryland
3/8/22 243,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in New Castle, Delaware
3/10/22 663,400 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, MD
3/10/22 915,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Taylor, IA
3/14/22 The blaze at 244 Meadow Drive was discovered shortly after 5 p.m. by farm owner Wayne Hoover
3/14/22 2,750,700 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Jefferson, Wisconsin
3/16/22 A fire at a Walmart warehouse distribution center has cast a large plume of smoke visible throughout Indianapolis.
3/16/22 Nestle Food Plant extensively damaged in fire and new production destroyed Jonesboro, Arkansas
3/17/22 5,347,500 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Buena Vista, Iowa
3/17/22 147,600 chickens destroyed at farm in Kent, Delaware
3/18/22 315,400 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, Maryland
3/22/22 172,000 Turkeys destroyed on farms in South Dakota
3/22/22 570,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Butler, Nebraska
3/24/22 Fire fighters from numerous towns are battling a major fire at the McCrum potato processing facility in Belfast.
3/24/22 418,500 chickens destroyed at farm in Butler, Nebraska
3/25/22 250,300 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Franklin, Iowa
3/26/22 311,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
3/27/22 126,300 Turkeys destroyed in South Dakota
3/28/22 1,460,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Guthrie, Iowa
3/29/22 A massive fire burned 40,000 pounds of food meant to feed people in a food desert near Maricopa
3/31/22 A structure fire caused significant damage to a large portion of key fresh onion packing facilities in south Texas
3/31/22 76,400 Turkeys destroyed in Osceola, Iowa
3/31/22 5,011,700 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Osceola, Iowa
4/6/22 281,600 chickens destroyed at farm in Wayne, North Carolina
4/9/22 76,400 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/9/22 208,900 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/12/22 89,700 chickens destroyed at farm in Wayne, North Carolina
4/12/22 1,746,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Dixon, Nebraska
4/12/22 259,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Minnesota
4/13/22 fire destroys East Conway Beef & Pork Meat Market in Conway, New Hampshire
4/13/22 Plane crashes into Gem State Processing, Idaho potato and food processing plant
4/13/22 77,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/14/22 Taylor Farms Food Processing plant burns down Salinas, California.
4/14/22 99,600 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/15/22 1,380,500 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Lancaster, Minnesota
4/19/22 Azure Standard nation’s premier independent distributor of organic and healthy food, was destroyed by fire in Dufur, Oregon
4/19/22 339,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/19/22 58,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Montrose, Color
4/20/22 2,000,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Minnesota
4/21/22 A small plane crashed in the lot of a General Mills plant in Georgia
4/22/22 197,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/23/22 200,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/25/22 1,501,200 chickens destroyed at egg farm Cache, Utah
4/26/22 307,400 chickens destroyed at farm Lancaster Pennsylvania
4/27/22 2,118,000 chickens destroyed at farm Knox, Nebraska
4/28/22 Egg-laying facility in Iowa kills 5.3 million chickens, fires 200-plus workers
4/28/22 Allen Harim Foods processing plant killed nearly 2M chickens in Delaware
4/2822 110,700 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
4/29/22 1,366,200 chickens destroyed at farm Weld Colorado
4/30/22 13,800 chickens destroyed at farm Sequoia Oklahoma
5/3/22 58,000 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
5/3/22 118,900 Turkeys destroyed Beadle S Dakota
5/3/22 114,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/3/22 118,900 Turkeys destroyed Lyon Minnesota
5/7/22 20,100 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
5/10/22 72,300 chickens destroyed at farm Lancaster Pennsylvania
5/10/22 61,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/10/22 35,100 Turkeys destroyed Muskegon, Michigan
5/13/22 10,500 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
5/14/22 83,400 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/17/22 79,00 chickens destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/18/22 7,200 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/19/22 Train carrying limestone derailed Jensen Beach FL
5/21/22 57,000 Turkeys destroyed on farm in Dakota Minnesota
5/23/22 4,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/29/22 A Saturday night fire destroyed a poultry building at Forsman Farms
5/31/22 3,000,000 chickens destroyed by fire at Forsman facility in Stockholm Township, Minnesota
6/2/22 30,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
6/7/22 A fire occurred Tuesday evening at the JBS meat packing plant in Green Bay.
6/8/22 Firefighters from Tangipahoa Fire District 1 respond to a fire at the Purina Feed Mill in Arcola
6/9/22 Irrigation water was canceled in California (the #1 producer of food in the US) and storage water flushed directly out to the delta.
6/12/22 Largest Pork Company in the US Shuts Down California Plant Due to High Costs
6/13/22 Fire Breaks Out at a Food Processing Plant West of Waupaca County in Wisconsin
Far too many to be a coincidence.
Add another one to the list.

 
In all seriousness, I have never been able to understand the drag queen story hour thing.

How in the hell did it even start, and who actually thinks there is a connection between drag queens and schools or libraries and young kids?

it just seems so random. I mean , why not Lumberjack story hour? Foot fetishist story hour? Furry story hour? Plastic fetishist story hour? Bestiality story hour? Necrophilia story hour?

Jesus, man, stop.giving them ideas.

Who knows what they'll run with next.
 
Other than being the former Gov of Michigan I don't know much about her. What exactly does she know about energy? Unless I've missed something...Michigan is not a big energy producing state.

About like Mayor Pete. He saw a pot hole once in South Bend...which makes him a transportation expert.

Actually, Mayor Pete saw a Dominoes truck filling the pothole, since he was incapable of even that as Mayor.
 
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