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Fun news about your loss of freedoms on this Wednesday. @sambowieshin, @Platinumdrgn, @Dionysus444, and the rest, what say you? Is this the kind of government you want to live under?

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We always have to be on the lookout for government overreach from both parties. At the height of a pandemic it is very irresponsible for Joe Rogan to sell lies to the American people. I'm not saying he can't have a stance that opposes vax mandates or questions their dangers or long term effects. He has every right to take that stance and say so on a public forum.
I'm talking about the spreading of false information that is flat out untrue. He doesn't have the right to yell "fire" in a theater where there is no fire. That's essentially what he is doing with his Covid misinformation.
 
McConnell has failed the Republican Party in every way imaginable other than getting a couple fake conservatives on the SC.

We tried the tea party and MM and his ilk didn’t listen. We tried Trump and again he and his ilk didn’t listen.

For years, He’s presided over the most disliked congress in American history. We are now more divided as Americans than any time in my lifetime. It’s time for these f*ckers to learn just how fed up we are.

Any rep who voted to impeach…..bye. Any rep who utters the word insurrection…. bye. Any rep not willing to fight these lunatic liberals loudly and proudly…..bye.
I have sent several letters to McConnell's office explaining the voters are seeing these things.........When he came out and started blaming Trump for the Jan 6 crap it was apparent that he was in on it too.........only an idiot would surmise that it was Trump's fault.........there is too much info.............and too many videos that scream federal involvement........then let's not forget that the Pelosi is using the sittuation to conduct another witch hunt......which Mitch the Bitch endorses.....again.....he knows he doesn't have my vote.........I would spit on him if I saw him.......and wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.......
 
I have sent several letters to McConnell's office explaining the voters are seeing these things.........When he came out and started blaming Trump for the Jan 6 crap it was apparent that he was in on it too.........only an idiot would surmise that it was Trump's fault.........there is too much info.............and too many videos that scream federal involvement........then let's not forget that the Pelosi is using the sittuation to conduct another witch hunt......which Mitch the Bitch endorses.....again.....he knows he doesn't have my vote.........I would spit on him if I saw him.......and wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.......

Trump Cult Manifesto.........
Trump is always right.
Don't question Trump.
Don't speak out against Trump.
Any Republican that disagrees with us is evil, corrupt and will be censured.
All Democrats are evil.
The FBI is out to get us.
The CIA is out to get us.
The Justice Dept is out to get us.
The CDC is out to get us.
The courts are out to get us.
The news media is out to get us.
The social media platforms are out to get us.
The state election officials are out to get us.
The Capitol police are liars.
The hospitals, doctors, nurses and coroners are lying about Covid and out to get us.
Everyone that disagrees with us is a liar, stupid and/or corrupt.
Everyone that disagrees with us is a socialist or communist.
All the elections are rigged....unless we win.

When your worldview looks like that.....you are in a cult and don't even know it.
 
We always have to be on the lookout for government overreach from both parties. At the height of a pandemic it is very irresponsible for Joe Rogan to sell lies to the American people. I'm not saying he can't have a stance that opposes vax mandates or questions their dangers or long term effects. He has every right to take that stance and say so on a public forum.
I'm talking about the spreading of false information that is flat out untrue. He doesn't have the right to yell "fire" in a theater where there is no fire. That's essentially what he is doing with his Covid misinformation.

Cmon Sam, this is written by “the reality check team” from bbc news.

Did Biden spread false information when he said if you get vaccinated you won’t catch covid? You know how much similar bs has come from the mouths of DC politicians and media you haven’t had an issue with.

I’ll take the guy who’ll holds the patents on mrna tech advice on what it does or doesn’t do on a cellular level.

I’ll take one if not the most published and peer reviewed cardiologist in the worlds advice on myocarditis in kids.

Rogan simply gives a platform and allows discussion. Only communists try to cancel debate and conversation.
 
Cmon Sam, this is written by “the reality check team” from bbc news.

Did Biden spread false information when he said if you get vaccinated you won’t catch covid? You know how much similar bs has come from the mouths of DC politicians and media you haven’t had an issue with.

I’ll take the guy who’ll holds the patents on mrna tech advice on what it does or doesn’t do on a cellular level.

I’ll take one if not the most published and peer reviewed cardiologist in the worlds advice on myocarditis in kids.

Rogan simply gives a platform and allows discussion. Only communists try to cancel debate and conversation.
That's funny, I'm much further to the left than @sambowieshin and I don't want Rogan removed from Spotify. Neither does anyone I know. The neoliberals are the ones who want him silenced for contradicting the administration's precious narrative. Communists are more apt to be Joe Rogan listeners than cancelers.
 
Cmon Sam, this is written by “the reality check team” from bbc news.

Did Biden spread false information when he said if you get vaccinated you won’t catch covid? You know how much similar bs has come from the mouths of DC politicians and media you haven’t had an issue with.

I’ll take the guy who’ll holds the patents on mrna tech advice on what it does or doesn’t do on a cellular level.

I’ll take one if not the most published and peer reviewed cardiologist in the worlds advice on myocarditis in kids.

Rogan simply gives a platform and allows discussion. Only communists try to cancel debate and conversation.
I agree that it is a slippery slope when you start stifling free speech. But I also get not wanting misinformation spread that can kill people.
As far as the two parties go with this issue both are at fault.
My biggest problem with the Republican party is that it has now become so allegiant to Trump and his extremist ideology that it feeds the Joe Rogans of the world.
 
That's funny, I'm much further to the left than @sambowieshin and I don't want Rogan removed from Spotify. Neither does anyone I know. The neoliberals are the ones who want him silenced for contradicting the administration's precious narrative. Communists are more apt to be Joe Rogan listeners than cancelers.
I never said I wanted him removed. I only pointed out why there was a push by some to do so. I actually prefer honest debate and desemination of facts/truth as a counter to lies.
I can see where the argument could be made that his lies are effecting lives negatively but can also see that it is a real slippery slope to censor people even if their views are whacked out.
I actually thought it was a big mistake to kick Trump off of Twitter. It only reinforced the conspiracy theories and belief that everyone is out to get him. I think it was done to cool the heat the country was feeling at the time because of his election lies....but again....it is a slippery slope.
Never thought I'd see any of this in the country I grew up in to be honest.
 
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Lol I like his idea



Trudy's fake quarantine is about up. Will he return?
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Trump Cult Manifesto.........
Trump is always right.
Don't question Trump.
Don't speak out against Trump.
Any Republican that disagrees with us is evil, corrupt and will be censured.
All Democrats are evil.
The FBI is out to get us.
The CIA is out to get us.
The Justice Dept is out to get us.
The CDC is out to get us.
The courts are out to get us.
The news media is out to get us.
The social media platforms are out to get us.
The state election officials are out to get us.
The Capitol police are liars.
The hospitals, doctors, nurses and coroners are lying about Covid and out to get us.
Everyone that disagrees with us is a liar, stupid and/or corrupt.
Everyone that disagrees with us is a socialist or communist.
All the elections are rigged....unless we win.

When your worldview looks like that.....you are in a cult and don't even know it.

You know why Nancy P was allowed to spy on sitting congressmen aka Watergate?

Because there was no accountability for the spygate committed by Obama and Hillary. Your liberals commit treason because there is no recourse for them.

That's tyranny
 
Hey Sam...your quote: Riots occured post election.

Jan 6th was not a riot. Thanks for playing.
Word of the day: RIOT
ri·ot | \ ˈrī-ət \
Definition of riot
1a: a violent public disorder
specifically : a tumultuous disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons assembled together and acting with a common intent.
b: public violence, tumult, or disorder

 
You know why Nancy P was allowed to spy on sitting congressmen aka Watergate?

Because there was no accountability for the spygate committed by Obama and Hillary. Your liberals commit treason because there is no recourse for them.

That's tyranny
Again....here is the difference between me and many on this board. I am not an apologist for Pelosi, Biden, Waters or any other Dem. I think Pelosi should have lost her position a decade ago. She is almost as addled and incoherent as Biden.
I will be happy to vote out Biden if there is an alternative besides dumb azz Trump.
I don't excuse Water's dumb azz calls for violence any more than you should excuse Trump's BS lies and inciting the Capitol riot.
I think both parties are waaay to extreme.
 
I agree that it is a slippery slope when you start stifling free speech. But I also get not wanting misinformation spread that can kill people.
As far as the two parties go with this issue both are at fault.
My biggest problem with the Republican party is that it has now become so allegiant to Trump and his extremist ideology that it feeds the Joe Rogans of the world.
We've been highly polarized for decades and Trump was the first president to really lean into those divisions to ride them for his own personal benefit in our lifetimes. Even Nixon eventually resigned. We have a history in America of being conciliatory towards the losers because the parties are so mutable and hardly distinct that the loser can always just snap up the disgruntled winners after a cycle of crappy leadership and be back on top for doing nothing but being welcoming. Compromise was the magic word of politics. But now in today's polarized climate it pays much more to just demonize the other side and get elected off that fear. Opposition has become the new most holy. Politicians get to do even less than they did before, just email a filibuster threat on everything the other side does and sit on your ass collecting a paycheck until the next election. Rinse, repeat. We need ranked choice voting. Screw parties, let candidates run on their stances on the issues, then we go in to vote and rank them as we like them. How many people would have put Trump 1st, or 2nd, or 3rd, or even 4th, in that field of 2016? You wouldn't get a Democratic candidate coming from a Dem primary where they had to please only Dem voters and vice versa with Rs. Ranked choice voting offers consensus picks, not a polarized, binary choice between a douche and a turd sandwich.
 
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Again....here is the difference between me and many on this board. I am not an apologist for Pelosi, Biden, Waters or any other Dem. I think Pelosi should have lost her position a decade ago. She is almost as addled and incoherent as Biden.
I will be happy to vote out Biden if there is an alternative besides dumb azz Trump.
I don't excuse Water's dumb azz calls for violence any more than you should excuse Trump's BS lies and inciting the Capitol riot.
I think both parties are waaay to extreme.

You condone treason.
 
“Trump’s extremist ideology” 😂

The most ideological moderate President of our lifetimes being described as an extreme ideology by our self-proclaimed ‘call-it-like-I-see-it’ centrist.

Leftists, bruh. There’s no reasoning with them.
Nothing centrist whatsoever about refusing to concede a Presidential election, calling state election officials to "find votes", refusing to attend the inauguration as a symbol of the peaceful transition of power, and inciting a riot on our Capitol building.
In what fricking universe is that "centrist"??
 
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I agree that it is a slippery slope when you start stifling free speech. But I also get not wanting misinformation spread that can kill people.
As far as the two parties go with this issue both are at fault.
My biggest problem with the Republican party is that it has now become so allegiant to Trump and his extremist ideology that it feeds the Joe Rogans of the world.

The main issue with Trump right now is him hyping the vaccine that half the country doesn’t want to take and doesn’t need to take statistically speaking.

He’s actually lost a decent amount of support for his comments pushing it and not being honest (imo) about the side effects of it. This isn’t an extremist ideology. This is people wanting choice, true informed consent and wanting to be left the hell alone by him, Biden or whoever else.
 
We've been highly polarized for decades and Trump was the first president to really lean into those divisions to ride them for his own personal benefit in our lifetimes. Even Nixon eventually resigned. We have a history in America of being conciliatory towards the losers because the parties are so mutable and hardly distinct that the loser can always just snap up the disgruntled winners after a cycle of crappy leadership and be back on top for doing nothing but being welcoming. Compromise was the magic word of politics. But now in today's polarized climate it pays much more to just demonize the other side and get elected off that fear. Opposition has become the new most holy. Politicians get to do even less than they did before, just email a filibuster threat on everything the other side does and sit on your ass collecting a paycheck until the next election. Rinse, repeat. We need ranked choice voting. Screw parties, let candidates run on their stances on the issues, then we go in to vote and rank them as we like them. How many people would have put Trump 1st, or 2nd, or 3rd, or even 4th, in that field of 2016? You wouldn't get a Democratic candidate coming from a Dem primary where they had to please only Dem voters and vice versa with Rs. Ranked choice voting offers consensus picks, not a polarized, binary choice between a douche and a turd sandwich.

Obama fanned the division flames like no other.
 
The main issue with Trump right now is him hyping the vaccine that half the country doesn’t want to take and doesn’t need to take statistically speaking.

He’s actually lost a decent amount of support for his comments pushing it and not being honest (imo) about the side effects of it. This isn’t an extremist ideology. This is people wanting choice, true informed consent and wanting to be left the hell alone by him, Biden or whoever else.
I get that viewpoint absolutely. It's just a shame that a vaccine became so politicized when this was not the case when other vaccines were introduced in the past.
Everything is so damn political now....even things that shouldn't be.
 
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I never said I wanted him removed. I only pointed out why there was a push by some to do so. I actually prefer honest debate and desemination of facts/truth as a counter to lies.
I can see where the argument could be made that his lies are effecting lives negatively but can also see that it is a real slippery slope to censor people even if their views are whacked out.
I actually thought it was a big mistake to kick Trump off of Twitter. It only reinforced the conspiracy theories and belief that everyone is out to get him. I think it was done to cool the heat the country was feeling at the time because of his election lies....but again....it is a slippery slope.
Never thought I'd see any of this in the country I grew up in to be honest.
I personally think he just needs to balance his guests more and he'd get less heat. He's a good guy who actually means his apologies for his past racist behavior and continues to show such through his actions, but he's really veered away from being just a himbo with cool weed conversations into being a star/bastion/pillar of the counter-culture the last few years imo. Mainstream media is such trash, on both sides, that I think he's started to take on this imagined role as some sort of 'truth-teller' and ultimately has started to take himself too seriously. Getting drunk with Alex Jones was better content, but I understand why he does it and if he's going to have on all these covid deniers of varying brands he has to have on enough representatives of the consensus or you're just responsible for putting out too much bad info.
 
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We've been highly polarized for decades and Trump was the first president to really lean into those divisions to ride them for his own personal benefit in our lifetimes. Even Nixon eventually resigned. We have a history in America of being conciliatory towards the losers because the parties are so mutable and hardly distinct that the loser can always just snap up the disgruntled winners after a cycle of crappy leadership and be back on top for doing nothing but being welcoming. Compromise was the magic word of politics. But now in today's polarized climate it pays much more to just demonize the other side and get elected off that fear. Opposition has become the new most holy. Politicians get to do even less than they did before, just email a filibuster threat on everything the other side does and sit on your ass collecting a paycheck until the next election. Rinse, repeat. We need ranked choice voting. Screw parties, let candidates run on their stances on the issues, then we go in to vote and rank them as we like them. How many people would have put Trump 1st, or 2nd, or 3rd, or even 4th, in that field of 2016? You wouldn't get a Democratic candidate coming from a Dem primary where they had to please only Dem voters and vice versa with Rs. Ranked choice voting offers consensus picks, not a polarized, binary choice between a douche and a turd sandwich.
You forgot to mention a Tweet or Instagram post to stir up the base and get a five minute slot on CNN or Fox in the evening. It's all BS.
 
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I get that viewpoint absolutely. It's just a shame that a vaccine became so politicized when this was not the case when other vaccines were introduced in the past.
Everything is so damn political now....even things that shouldn't be.

I agree. Whether it’s medicine, sports, or even loving your own country, the ruling class global elites have infiltrated everything with division. Historically, it’s the tried and true way to gain more power.
 
Obama fanned the division flames like no other.
Yeah. By being black. Obama was a milquetoast centrist who did nothing but continue the same uniparty policies of his predecessors. "Hope and Change" was just a slogan. Jade Helm was not an invasion of Texas. The ME got drone striked like the military-industrial complex loves. Everyone who was too big to fail got bailed out. The rich got their kickbacks. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. But he's black.
 
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No that was a Fed and Nancy set up. You support treason
It wasn't a Fed or Nancy telling thousands of Trump supporters to follow him to the Capitol in order to stand up and fight for their country after a stolen election and to let Mike Pence know he needed to overturn the election results.
That was your guy. Take a gander....
 
I have sent several letters to McConnell's office explaining the voters are seeing these things.........When he came out and started blaming Trump for the Jan 6 crap it was apparent that he was in on it too.........only an idiot would surmise that it was Trump's fault.........there is too much info.............and too many videos that scream federal involvement........then let's not forget that the Pelosi is using the sittuation to conduct another witch hunt......which Mitch the Bitch endorses.....again.....he knows he doesn't have my vote.........I would spit on him if I saw him.......and wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.......

McConnell was the one speaking in the Senate at the time they shut the proceedings down.

One of his final statements, “there is fraud in every election.”
 
It wasn't a Fed or Nancy telling thousands of Trump supporters to follow him to the Capitol in order to stand up and fight for their country after a stolen election and to let Mike Pence know he needed to overturn the election results.
That was your guy. Take a gander....

That is nothing. Ray Epps, the fence cutter, and the scaffolding guy (all Fed agents) invited the whole rush.

Also Capitol police opened the doors and let people in. Nice try
 
McConnell has failed the Republican Party in every way imaginable other than getting a couple fake conservatives on the SC.

We tried the tea party and MM and his ilk didn’t listen. We tried Trump and again he and his ilk didn’t listen.

For years, He’s presided over the most disliked congress in American history. We are now more divided as Americans than any time in my lifetime. It’s time for these f*ckers to learn just how fed up we are.

Any rep who voted to impeach…..bye. Any rep who utters the word insurrection…. bye. Any rep not willing to fight these lunatic liberals loudly and proudly…..bye.
I really wish that turkey neck bastard was on the ballot this year. But then he probably wouldn't be running that Chinese cocksucker so freely and wantonly.
 
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That is nothing. Ray Epps, the fence cutter, and the scaffolding guy (all Fed agents) invited the whole rush.

Also Capitol police opened the doors and let people in. Nice try

People act like Trump did something sinister. It’s stupid. For weeks, they invited people to Washington for a rally and to protest on the Capitol steps.

It was all public and out in the open. There were no secrets.

Then, the powers that be manipulated the situation as you noted above (and of course it goes much deeper than simply what we saw on the surface) and used the outpouring of support for Trump against him.

It’s not hard to see what happened. Trump never said to flood the Capitol. In fact, given the level of security in DC, it’s not even reasonable that the breach should have been able to occur, and certainly not at Trump’s bidding.

The National Guard was available. The Capitol Police. The US military.

But some goof bag, Trump supporters were able to breach the Capitol, en masse, after weeks of saying they were going to be there (time and date provided)? Doesn’t make sense.

No rational person can conclude that this was an insurrection led by the President of the US. It’s not sane.

Now, was Trump foolish to invite that crowd on that day, and not consider the potential fallout if the crowd was infiltrated? Did he not have any intelligence that the Epps’ of world would be there? If not, then it was because he was being kept in the dark during his final days as President, as the intelligence community worked to have him marked for life in hopes of preventing him from ever holding office again.
 
The lack of truck drivers has been going on For the last decade. Has nothing to do with Biden. The last few generations don't like long haul driving and as the 2 generations before that all retire the truck driver drought gets worse and worse. The bounce back from low demand is just making the issue 10x worse. If you want to help go drive a truck.
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