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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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I think you are mostly right. Except I don't think Putin would be satisfied with part of Ukraine. Only temporarily. He is very much a Stalinist, very unhappy and embarrassed with the collapse of the old Soviet Union and would like it back.
He is not even a Communist, let alone a Stalinist, and we probably have more of both of those on American college campuses than there are in all of Russia. If anything, he's comparable to some of the more aggressive tsars.
 
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My favorite (not really) is the dating one with the black dude putting peanut butter on toast (wtf) and feeding the white dude. They try to be extra woke with the gay and biracial angles. Just something creepy about that commercial.
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There was also a hotel one that tried to hit a grand slam with their sucking up. Started with a gay couple, then a biracial couple, followed by a muslim family.

It's just ridiculous all the pandering they do toward minority groups. Tossing an occasional one in from time to time is one thing but they do it in every commercial now. If I were gay I would be sick of it knowing that they are just pissing off a large portion of the country that does nothing to further their cause.
Those darn pesky minority groups! They should just learn their place and have a token exposure from time time and stay off your lawn. Point made Boomer.
 
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Funny how I'm living a parallel life but unvaxxed, out with a group in bars and not worried a bit about ending up in a hospital.
But only one of us is living in reality.
Sam, are you of the respondents who utterly gaffed on the poll question when asked to estimate the chance of hospitalization if infected with the Ro? The actual likelihood at the time that poll was taken (December 2020, IIRC) was estimated to be 1% to 3% (it is impossible to know the precise figure, when so many infections are unknown and untested), but about 40% of all Democrats estimated that the hospitalization rate was over 50%. The Republican respondents were less stupid, but, in full disclosure, still pretty stupid. Independents were more stupid than Republicans, but not as stupid as Democrats.

Now, with Omicron, you can take whatever percentage there previously was, and divide it by two or three, if not more. So, if you want to discuss reality, the reality is, unvaxxed or vaxxed, chances are fairly good (over 99% at this point, even IF you are infected), that you won't end up in the hospital.
 
Lol, lol, lol.

Ok, 'SCIENCE DUDE', please do us all a favor and go watch AL Gore's movie 'An Inconvenient Truth', and report back to us one prediction made in that film that has come to fruition.

You won't, because you can't.
I remember about that time of that hypocrite's fiction flick when people were talking about melting polar ice caps and he blamed it on humans. Only problem was the ice caps under discussion were on Mars.
 
Sam, are you of the respondents who utterly gaffed on the poll question when asked to estimate the chance of hospitalization if infected with the Ro? The actual likelihood at the time that poll was taken (December 2020, IIRC) was estimated to be 1% to 3% (it is impossible to know the precise figure, when so many infections are unknown and untested), but about 40% of all Democrats estimated that the hospitalization rate was over 50%. The Republican respondents were less stupid, but, in full disclosure, still pretty stupid. Independents were more stupid than Republicans, but not as stupid as Democrats.

Now, with Omicron, you can take whatever percentage there previously was, and divide it by two or three, if not more. So, if you want to discuss reality, the reality is, unvaxxed or vaxxed, chances are fairly good (over 99% at this point, even IF you are infected), that you won't end up in the hospital.
Like this article summarizing a study that basically says lockdowns are more harmful than not and should not be considered in the future. Pretty much summarizes what any logical person would believe but folks like Sam want to lock it down no matter what proof there is.

No Lockdowns
 
He is not even a Communist, let alone a Stalinist, and we probably have more of both of those on American college campuses than there are in all of Russia. If anything, he's comparable to some of the more aggressive tsars.
There aren’t that many people who openly wish to destroy the United States system, good and bad, to replace it with communism, but the ones who do sure are loud, and yes, there are plenty of kids on college campuses that are ungrateful for what we have in the United States and just kinda assume our civil rights and liberties are a given-if we completely destroy this system because it’s not a utopia, all the good of America will still be there, and I do not believe that to be the case.
 
I think you are mostly right. Except I don't think Putin would be satisfied with part of Ukraine. Only temporarily. He is very much a Stalinist, very unhappy and embarrassed with the collapse of the old Soviet Union and would like it back.

I agree he is a Russian chauvinist hell bent on returning his country to its former place of importance, imo he'd be happy with his European sphere of influence with is ally China regaining its influence in the Pacific.

Stalinism and "socialism in one country" has nothing to do with this, that's a 20th century extinct world view. I don't want to sound be condescending I love talking these subjects, keep em coming!
 
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I would say that if you asked them, the vast majority welcomed the invasion. Which is certainly not to say that the residents of the rest of the Ukraine would have the same perspective as those who live in the particular area of Crimea.
I am not sure if the majority in the Crimea were in favor of Russian annexation or not . It was still a hostile take over via the Russian military and shows that Putin is willing to act the same way as Hitler did in the 1930's regarding expansion.
 
I don’t know anything about that in regards to you but very educated geographically for the most part but why would anyone want to align with Russia? Seems like a losing situation.
Economically yes but from a security standpoint it’s what they want. The Russians keep them well armed. Do you remember when they brought down an airliner with a SAM in 2014? the Donetsk republic is welcoming to Russia. Russia already has 1000s of troops in Ukraine who have been assimilating. They are blending in with the locals. Been going on since 2013 even earlier. I don’t even think they would need to stage an invasion. It would be more a move to burden nato to move them out. A declaration of sovereignty or independence for regions. Again Crimea.

This is happening in the caucuses as well the people in the border regions are aligning with Russia.

i know Kyiv and western Ukraine it’s about 50/50 pro Russia/pro west. most in Kyiv do not want NATO. Russia already took the most strategic region of Ukraine in Crimea so I think he’s (Putin) playing the long game and gonna take a little here and there.

the relationship there is very complex especially within Ukraine itself.
 
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Like this article summarizing a study that basically says lockdowns are more harmful than not and should not be considered in the future. Pretty much summarizes what any logical person would believe but folks like Sam want to lock it down no matter what proof there is.

No Lockdowns

But Sam has a study funded by Bill Gates saying that lockdowns work
 
Sam, are you of the respondents who utterly gaffed on the poll question when asked to estimate the chance of hospitalization if infected with the Ro? The actual likelihood at the time that poll was taken (December 2020, IIRC) was estimated to be 1% to 3% (it is impossible to know the precise figure, when so many infections are unknown and untested), but about 40% of all Democrats estimated that the hospitalization rate was over 50%. The Republican respondents were less stupid, but, in full disclosure, still pretty stupid. Independents were more stupid than Republicans, but not as stupid as Democrats.

Now, with Omicron, you can take whatever percentage there previously was, and divide it by two or three, if not more. So, if you want to discuss reality, the reality is, unvaxxed or vaxxed, chances are fairly good (over 99% at this point, even IF you are infected), that you won't end up in the hospital.
Only the truly stupid or completely f'ing brainwashed (or someone whose job doesn't place them anywhere near an ICU daily) would proudly throw out a stat that shows 1 to 3 percent of the U.S. population....approx 3-9 million people....could end up dead or hospitalized from Covid and be proud of it.
As Bugs Bunny famously used to say......What a maroon.
I am shocked...shocked I say..... that we are leading the industrialized world in Covid deaths with all the YouTube research wizards and Trumptastic scientists in Merica.
Doh!!!!!!! Derp!!!!!!
 
Only the truly stupid or completely f'ing brainwashed (or someone whose job doesn't place them anywhere near an ICU daily) would proudly throw out a stat that shows 1 to 3 percent of the U.S. population....approx 3-9 million people....could end up dead or hospitalized from Covid and be proud of it.
As Bugs Bunny famously used to say......What a maroon.
I am shocked...shocked I say..... that we are leading the industrialized world in Covid deaths with all the YouTube research wizards and Trumptastic scientists in Merica.
Doh!!!!!!! Derp!!!!!!

Lol, NYT. The second worst fake news behind CNN.

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Well, maybe the French and Germans, etc can get off their ass for once and do something instead of the US and Britain footing the bill for everything.
Germany is now dependent for 50% of its natural gas on Russia. They have been totally compromised as being an ally. We should pull all our ground troops out of Germany and move them to other NATO countries. Why do we have to be the tip of the spear to protect Europe especially Germany?
 
Only the truly stupid or completely f'ing brainwashed (or someone whose job doesn't place them anywhere near an ICU daily) would proudly throw out a stat that shows 1 to 3 percent of the U.S. population....approx 3-9 million people....could end up dead or hospitalized from Covid and be proud of it.
As Bugs Bunny famously used to say......What a maroon.
I am shocked...shocked I say..... that we are leading the industrialized world in Covid deaths with all the YouTube research wizards and Trumptastic scientists in Merica.
Doh!!!!!!! Derp!!!!!!
Sam, part of the problem with our death rate is the pervasive obesity herein- and, for all I know, you might be part of the problem yourself, which would explain, though not really validate, your fear. With that said, the comparison to other parts of the industrialized world is a tad misleading, since it is precisely the industrialized world that is getting hit the hardest due to higher median age. As it is, the United States is doing worse than Western Europe generally speaking; better than most of Eastern Europe (including higher income countries there like the Czech Republic) and quiet a bit worse than Asia. But for obesity, I suspect that our numbers would be as low as those in places like Western Europe. You are technically correct that "we lead the industrialized world" in deaths, but we certainly do not lead in per capita deaths. I urge you to seek therapy for your obvious neurosis about "Covid", as mental stress can surely lead to just as many issues as those caused by viruses. You should always remember that the worst pandemic of all is a pandemic of fear.
 
Sam, part of the problem with our death rate is the pervasive obesity herein- and, for all I know, you might be part of the problem yourself, which would explain, though not really validate, your fear. With that said, the comparison to other parts of the industrialized world is a tad misleading, since it is precisely the industrialized world that is getting hit the hardest due to higher median age. As it is, the United States is doing worse than Western Europe generally speaking; better than most of Eastern Europe (including higher income countries there like the Czech Republic) and quiet a bit worse than Asia. But for obesity, I suspect that our numbers would be as low as those in places like Western Europe. You are technically correct that "we lead the industrialized world" in deaths, but we certainly do not lead in per capita deaths. I urge you to seek therapy for your obvious neurosis about "Covid", as mental stress can surely lead to just as many issues as those caused by viruses. You should always remember that the worst pandemic of all is a pandemic of fear.

Not as a slur to Sam. But he has mentioned before that he is a big person
 
What in the hell did anything remotely related to the trucker protest have to do with race in any way shape or form. It was 100% about stopping forced mandates and government tyranny.
So, a few assholes showed up sporting swastikas etc- whether they were Nazi assholes or woke assholes trying to make the protesters look bad; who knows? And Trudeau, in his infinite wisdom, tried to get some political mileage out of the 1% of protesters who were the assholes, and found himself absolutely roasted and ratioed on his Twitter, and much of the responses were of photos of Trudeau himself sporting blackface.
 
cant the answer be “both” of those options ?
Half of the Ukraine people identify as "Russian" anyway. How did the world change when they attacked Crimea? Obama sent the Ukrainians blankets. Biden withheld a billion dollars unless they let his kid, and himself, collect millions of dollars.

At this point, what difference does it make? Why do we want to let Russia gain position by us defending Ukraine?

There is nothing we can withhold from Putin that he can't get from China. Uranium. But that boat sailed with the Clintons.

We are on the verge of WWIII. XI and Putin don't have to include Biden in their talks.

Russia isn't doing a damn thing without the permission of China.
 
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