Those Afghans aided our forces for decades, putting their lives at risk. They're here to be American just like you or me. They're our people, not "their people."
They're only here because they aided us even after we invaded and destabilized their country. We're responsible for their being here on both ends.
Someone working two jobs should never need assistance. One job should be enough to support someone, let alone two. How screwed up is it that we accept that someone working multiple jobs can't make ends meet? How do you not see that that's a huge problem with our system?
Yep, we just up and invaded for shits and giggles.
So we let our production jobs go to third world countries and let our tax dollars take care of people who don't want to work or choose to scam the system? I'm not talking about the small percentage who can't work. If gov is going to "give" people things, I'm sure we can come up with something productive for them to do, or better yet, at least incentivize people to work instead of living off the system.
You missed the point. They should not have to work two or three jobs. We should assist those who have to work two or three jobs to make it so they can make it without having to do that rather than help people who do not want to work make it by being lazy bums.
The reason laundry machines exist is so that we don't have to wash our clothes laboriously by hand anymore. Cars and tractors freed horses from their lives of servitude. We're only scared of increased automation because our very survival is dependent on the availability of jobs. That's a serious flaw in our system. We should be able to be excited about and embrace all the amazing technological advancements we're making, not fearful and resentful about them replacing us. Giving people meaningless busy work just to keep them occupied is evil.
Which we weren't talking about. We were talking about paying for Afghan refugees' hotel rooms while more permanent accommodations are found. @bigblueinsanity said we shouldn't be doing it since there are homeless vets.
No, corporations should be paying a wage a worker can live on or they shouldn't exist. The taxpayers shouldn't be subsidizing corporate cost-cutting. Walmart et al. need to pay their payroll, not the taxpayer.
I won't argue that but, reality is that pay is what it is right now. Not opposed to raising it but not $15.00 minimum wage overnight. That would destroy businesses around the country and then some not worth that much, $10.00 plus for starters though. However, reality is now that those who have to work other jobs and are not home with kids or families should get the benefits given to those who don't want to work to help them be home with their kids and families. Those who don't work should not get a dime. Once again talking about those able-bodied bums.
Because corporations aren't people with a conscience. They're soulless machines. They only pay the barest of minimums they can get away with to squeeze out as much profit as they can. That's the entire reason there's a minimum wage, child labor laws, restrictions on toxic waste dumping, health and safety requirements. They won't do it themselves. They never have. Because there's no reason to from their perspective. We always have to force them, a la Teddy Roosevelt.
Like I said....I have no problem whatsoever with your military pension, appreciate your service and think you earned what you got. But it is hypocrisy to say that others who worked their whole lives in another government job didn't earn theirs and are sponging off the government.
This describes dion. Of course he doesn't understand it.
I’m way behind on this thread (so he may have already responded) but I anxiously await his answer on this one. Because the media and literally EVERYONE (right, left, center, and yes even the commies on the far left extreme) should be demanding that this be answered in a logical, coherent manner.
This “silence Rogan” movement by the MSM should terrify everyone.
Well, youre in for a downer then. iirc, he said the defn changed because science changed.
So you are ok with kids making Nike shoes for basically slave labor in china while people who are to lazy to work draw a gov check here? I guess someday china will have robots making shoes though, so that's ok. Lets all go live on Big Rock Candy Mountain.
No. Those workers keep the economy moving just like everyone else. You want the elderly making you your fast food burger because they can't support themselves after a lifetime of contributing to society? That's completely messed up. Screw you.
Where did I say that? We've fought for generations for the meager labor protections we have here and if you want to sell in America you should have to satisfy American standards so American workers can compete. Trade protectionism was a leftist issue before Trump co-opted it. I have the same position on undocumented labor, businesses shouldn't be able to employ them and thereby profit off their exploitation. (I just take the tack of allowing generous work permits and legalizing all workers rather than building a wall to keep them out, i.e., a difference in methodology)
If someone adds 5 dollars of value to you, are you going to pay them 15?
I often wonder why libs like Pelosi or others don't give aWay most of their money to poor people. Oh, I know! Like you said,OPM makes it easier to be generous.
Agree 100%. When people become completely dependent on programs, it turns into generational dependency most of the time.
