He’s on the 76ers roster, I don't know what else to tell you.
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Livingston was considered to be a top 10 prospect. Most teams wanted him. You're
talking nonsense.
How many of you have tried to talk a young person out of doing something that is stupid........some young men are going to do what they are going to do.......good, bad, wrong or indifferent........they get to make the choices......it is their life........I wish all of them well in their endeavors......not all of them will be a success........
Like I said. It’s his biggest failure during his tenure here and it has lead to additional failures. Everyone likes to point to style of play. But if we have the very best players then even that doesn’t matter much. Roster construction tops all.
because he can't judge talent..........all he can see is the # of stars by each kids name, not their ability, especially
those that can't shoot
His poor shooting was the main reason we lost two of our last five games.
A lot of them do, he also just needs to get more reps as a secondary creator, and for cal to actually run some offense for shooters
We nicknamed him crash bc it seemed like ever drive to the basket ended up with him on the floor.
CL's ball handling and hand placement on his shot are real liabilities for being selected in the 1st round. Clutch will need to be just that for him to get drafted. He's in Bron's circle so it could happen.
The problem is he was the only shooter on the whole team.He's not good enough to expected to be the best player on the team.
They signed him to a two way deal to skirt union issues with the dunk contest. You may be technically correct, but Mac is a g-league player for all intents and purposes.
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Ideally yes.
The Calipari conundrum is that these are the kids that are drawn to him.
I agree with all of that, but Cal is the best recruiter (now that K is gone), but how many times did Cal amass enough talent to overcome his lack of coaching, style of play, yelling and game management?
Even the 2010 and 2015 teams, as stacked as they were, couldn't overcome Cal, it took an NBA lockout + a generational talent + 2 transcent players to do it.
I'm just so ready for this revolving door clown show to end. I understand roster turnover is inevitable but losing players like Livingston is a microcosm of the absurdity UK basketball has become under Calipari.
His good shooting is also why we won multiple games.
Duke just got their player back who is in a similar situation to Livingston. Procter for them is coming back which is big for them, meanwhile our guy is probably leaving like they 98 percent of the time
It did, but is also isn’t totally his fault. Him being the only perimeter threat and the only really consistent offensive threat for that team is the reason they lost
This is my favorite part of the Calipari cycle of hell.
After we lose, I look at the roster and decide "surely these guys are coming back." And every year (except this past year), everyone leaves.
It doesn't really matter, of course. Cal got Wheeler, Toppin, Oscar, Collins, Frederick all back. He brought in a senior in Reeves. We STILL had a disappointing season and flamed out early.
Up next is coach cal's favorite part of the cycle: the draft.
After we lose, I look at the roster and decide "surely these guys are coming back." And every year (except this past year), everyone leaves.
It doesn't really matter, of course. Cal got Wheeler, Toppin, Oscar, Collins, Frederick all back. He brought in a senior in Reeves. We STILL had a disappointing season and flamed out early.
Up next is coach cal's favorite part of the cycle: the draft.
Dude is begging to go on ignore! Brings NOTHING to the thread discussion. Another dipshit troll like Senjosey, probably the same poster.
Kansas, UNC, Duke always get guys to return .... unlike UK, they actually have a program culture that isn't "get out of here as fast as possible because I have other guys coming in that get your spot."
Could also add RJ Davis from UNC. He's a 2nd round prospect, announced his return to UNC
Sucks but the truth is the truth, bacot would have been told to leave a while ago if he were at Kentucky. It’s sad that John doesn’t realize that guys liek Livingston mixed with his star freshman are when he has his best teams
Thierro out played Livingston? No way. Livingston slumped when Cal destroyed his confidence by telling him to basically be a garbage man. He was shooting 35% from 3 most of the year. 72% from the line. He was one of our better defensive players in terms of staying in front of his man. But, I agree he's unlikely to get drafted in the first round...maybe late second. He needs new handlers LOL.
As far as Edwards...a 6-7, 180 lb frosh wouldn't beat out Chris.
I think the point is that his shooting wasn't the issue. He shot 40% from 3 on the season. Yes he shot poorly in the worst time. But guys have off shooting nights. He's still a 40% shooter. You want those.
The problem was he's the only guy on the team that could shoot. Other teams have additional good shooters. One guy can go cold because the rest of the team can make shots. We didn't have anyone else.
He has adapted from the 1 and done.
He's a bad in game coach. He doesn't coach modern offense. He doesn't use timeouts. He doesn't draw up plays. He doesn't run out of bounds plays.
But he absolutely has adapted from the 1 and done.
We had a team FULL of upperclassmen. Oscar, Toppin, Wheeler, Reeves, Frederick were all transfers.
I think Cal has made a tremendous effort to NOT rely on freshman.
Agree with everything you said. Except we had 2 starters that were one and done. Next year we have a boatload of freshman coming in. I realize we are using the transfer portal but relatively speaking, we depend on freshman a lot more than other teams.
But relatively speaking, we relied a lot less on freshman than we ever have before.
It’s appropriate to bring in a few McDonald’s All-American level guys and have them start alongside veterans.
Other good teams do this. 1 or 2 guys isn’t a problem. Trying to start 5 freshman is.
The best recruiter puts together a roster of individual players that fit together and complement each other on the court. CCC tries to grab the most 5 stars. He does not recruit for fit or chemistry.l
If a great recruiter is defined as accumulating 5 stars, he is the best! But it is not, so he is not a great recruiter.
Until Cal leaves we will be no better than this year. Coaches have figured out easy ways to play us. They have even figured out that do not have to be elite to do so. We will have more talent next year but not enough to mean anything. We will be a 8 to 12 loss team again. Unless Cal strikes gold with euro player or portal and we get all 5 guys we signed (doubtful). I will cheer them on just the same and lose my mind when we play horrible (which we will). Get ready to hear the "We are young, it is a process, we are player led, I am tired and will go play with the dogs excuses". GO BIG BLUE!!!
Yeah, you can look at it multiple ways, but in reality, Cal is the best at recruiting HS talent (now that K is gone). The problem is, these kids look great against HS talent, but there are too many unknowns with them, in my opinion, to believe that the one-and-done system is the best way to run a program.
Most of these kids aren't polished enough, tough enough or physical enough to compete at this level, even if he had the perfect balance, it's still a disadvantage to put a bunch of HS kids on a court against any team you would see in the sweet 16 and beyond.
Cal is no dummy, he obviously knows this, so my question to him would be, why are you sticking with the one and done method when it clearly isn't working?
He’s not a good enough coach for either method, in order for him to win, a perfect storm of events would need to happen, like what happened in 11/12 with the NBA lockout, a transcendent player and a generational player.
Hopefully the 23/24 season is his last.
I'm kind of a glass half full guy so I would say it's as much due to him being the only one we could rely on to make a 3 as much as anything else. When all your eggs are in one basket you set yourself up for failure.
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