Im guessing Duke gets Bamba now. Our string of bad luck will continue for awhile. Next year we will have the look of a nice AAU team. Hey as they say it is what it is,,,,,,,,,,,,
Per DraftExpress, Trevon Duval (#1 PG in 2017 HS Class) Commits To Duke
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That 2015 team wasn't full of ball hogs though. Jones was a terrific college pg and Winslow was a team player too.
This is mostly true though Winslow himself has admitted he was all about him when he got to Duke. His only goal was to do what was best for him and him only to get to the NBA. It took the staff a few months to convince him believe in the team concept that ultimately helped him and everyone else achieve their goals.
I remember watching Jeter in high school and thinking how in the world is this guy rated this high? To this day I'm still not sure what all these recruiting service saw in him.
Wouldn't he be in his ear to come back and more desperate if they didn't get Duvall?
Yeah, I'm calling bullshit. Link it. That dude was an MKG-type player who did everything for the team. He was a lunchpale guy.
Yeah. But K prolly told Jackson to declare so they could show Duval that he would be running the show. Now that he has committed (per the OP), K will be asking Jackson to return. K knows he needs a legit PG to run the show, which is why I believe K asked Jackson to declare so Duval would jump on board. Now they can slide Jackson to the 2, and also back up Duval when need be. This is just my opinion.
Duke fan runs over to UK board to start a thread about it ![[eyeroll]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/rolleye/rolleye0011.r191677.gif "Eye roll [eyeroll]")
searching for validation much? Why would we give a shite anyway? We didnt even recruit the kid bc hes sketchy.
searching for validation much? Why would we give a shite anyway? We didnt even recruit the kid bc hes sketchy.
Krysheieessiikki is ruining college basketball with these one and dones.
I'll believe that when I see it. Kid has been to 4 different high schools and is in the same boat as Preston(Prime Prep). Can;t see him getting through the clearinghouse.
I've heard or read him mention it a couple times. Specifically Jon Scheyer had a podcast last summer and interviewed Winslow in one episode where he said it.
You do realize he just committed to Duke so clearing the NCAA isn't a problem. Now if he had chosen UK it would be a different story.
I will always believe if Kanter had went to Washington he would have been cleared to play but the most corrupt man in sports Emmert had him declared ineligible because he switched to UK.
Exactly............there will never be a question regarding his eligibility since its Duke
Then surely, you can find the links as hes mentioned it so many times.
To paint Winslow as some me-first player who may have had chemistry/ego issues is non sense. He was a HUGE reason Duke won the title that year. He was a SF who could guard many positions and was hard to guard himself. He was your MKG, a player who was equally as instrumental in Kentucky's 2012 title.
Stop trying to cast the Duke 2015 roster as "well, they weren't ALL that great".. they were perfect compliments to each other, PLUS you had returning experience across the floor.
Seeing how badly you flamed out in the tournament since, should tell you how special 2015 was.. It doesn't happen often.
As far as Duke 2017 goes:
1. You don't have the returning experience. You have very little of it. Not sure Allen is automatically a "benefit" at this point..
2. The recruits aren't proven. How they play with each other isn't proven. How they respond to coaching isn't proven.
If Duke really is gonna go down the OAD path (lmfao at that entire statement for so many reasons).. you're going to have to deal with the above from now on. So far, you're 1 for 3.. and those other two were pretty damn bad.
1. You don't have the returning experience. You have very little of it. Not sure Allen is automatically a "benefit" at this point..
2. The recruits aren't proven. How they play with each other isn't proven. How they respond to coaching isn't proven.
If Duke really is gonna go down the OAD path (lmfao at that entire statement for so many reasons).. you're going to have to deal with the above from now on. So far, you're 1 for 3.. and those other two were pretty damn bad.
Considering Emmert was still at Washington when Kanter committed to them, I think that's a safe bet.
Whoa. I only specifically commented on Winslow. I haven't said anything else about that 2015 team. The only reason I commented on the Winslow issue is because it stood out in my mind when I first heard it as well. I was surprised.
Then prove it! Not trying to jump on you.. but you're claiming Winslow was a borderline team cancer with your above statements, when in reality he was probably the 2nd most important player, maybe #1.SF's are hard to come by..
do you think they will suddenly not be an issue; since he is now "set for life"?
You seem to have a firmer grasp on that team, but I do know we saw some of the same dirty stuff from Winsldow that we saw from Allen.
Man, after the last few days we've had, I needed a good laugh. Keep it up!! You're hilarious!!!!!!!!
Bolden a rim protector!!!! Buhahhahhaaahaa!! That's classic!
Come on, give me another post. I'm loving this!
Just don't come back here a year from now and try to tell us that Greene was the better player coming out of HS even though the rankings said Duval >. You duke fans are good for that.
80% of the team were freshman? huh?
your probably (hopefully) not in this picture
If Duval goes to Duke, then they got one that appears able to step in and play right away and also has a lot of upside. That doesn't mean he will be the most valuable or impactful college freshman PG next season, and it sure as hell doesn't mean he will be the best PG in college next season. But, from what I saw, I think Duval probably looked to be the best all-around high school senior PG.
I was just going off of what he said. I think there's some middle ground between "team cancer" and "glue guy" which he probably fell somewhere in the middle. And as I said before his attitude had changed before the end of the season and tournament where he really took off.
https://m.soundcloud.com/user-863344822/episode-7-justise-winslow
I don't recall.. it wasn't anything big enough to warrant media attention, and for sure wasn't anything near what Allen did THIS year.
That's kind of besides the point though, isn't it?
If he did in fact turn it around to end the season, then that's pretty much all that matters. He started the season in the middle (even that is a stretch to me, but OK).. and by season's end he was all in?
Sounds to me like as a whole, a pretty damn good player and a huge reason why Duke ultimately won the title.
And let's not forget just how nicely that 6-game stretch was paved. Duke isn't winning in Kentucky's path.. they would have lost their 3rd game to Notre Dame on the year. Even despite everything coming together nicely for them in a well-oiled and well rounded machine.. they weren't world-beaters.
Sure, I'm not worried about debating how good that 2015 team was.
The main point of my comment was that the perfect team didn't just fall into the coaches laps. There was some work and tinkering done with the young talent to make everything work together. That team did not look so great in January.
80% of the team were freshman? huh?
your probably (hopefully) not in this picture
You're*
It was very much the players and a ton of returning talent.
And while the coaches absolutely had something to do with molding them, are we then going to say they failed in 2016 and 2017?
And while the coaches absolutely had something to do with molding them, are we then going to say they failed in 2016 and 2017?
Say what you want, but Coach K's OAD track record isn't that great. He may have a better title per ratio than Cal, but Cal has the Final4's to back up his ability.
So far, 2015 is NOT the norm for Duke.. rather losing by the 2nd weekend is.
So far, 2015 is NOT the norm for Duke.. rather losing by the 2nd weekend is.
Duke has no less than two championships in large part to the path. It's just the facts. You can deny what you want. The NCAA prefers the "college athlete" BS and tbey are well aware most people only know Duke for academics. No one realizes Duke has as many thugs as any team, probably more.
