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Notre Dame to the SEC..... What?

The SEC isn't going anywhere.

Two years ago the B1G, PAC, and B12 formed an alliance. A year later the B1G and B12 murdered the PAC in cold blood. Anything can happen.

What if the Saudis pay ESPN to build its own league and offers billions to Alabama, LSU, Florida and Georgia? I mean it sounds crazy, but if you told anyone a year ago that UCLA and USC would join the big 10 you’d think they’re an idiot.
 
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This all sucks. I hate it.

They've already ruined everything else anyways so might as well go ahead and break this up too. It's sad. At some point it's gotta get to a point to where the avg fan just don't care anymore and starts to lose interest. I'm almost there myself. Nobody will miss me and that's fine, but damn I sure do miss it. Its to a point it's barely recognizable and it's always in the back of my mind what will the next change be, and when. If shit ain't broke you shouldn't have to always be fixing it.
 
The more nonSEC 'purist' teams we add the greater our risk of getting left out.
At some point, the programs that matter in realignment (football) will realize that losing Ol' Miss, Miss St, Vandy, S Carolina, us, etc... will create a greater share of $$ for them.
The SEC's days are numbered. We will regret ever adding Texas and Texas AM.
I think you make a fair point...greed has a way of targeting the next teams in its cross hairs. I'd imagine the Ky tv market (even if we aren't a big state) has a way of wanting to keep the flagship program of the state.
 
What’s to stop the football schools from paying the UK board members to willingly leave the conference? It’s not up to fans or season ticket holders after all.

Or what if the big football schools just formed their new, non regional conference and invited the 15-20 biggest football schools?
That could happen, but as long as there is an SEC, UK will be a part of it, unless they choose to leave, which would be a dumb move. Same for Vandy.

The other teams can decide to leave the conference, and form their own conference, if they thought that was worth the trouble, but they would lose the SEC name, banner, pride, allegiance, and tradition.

Is it worth the trouble just to ditch some of the mediocre programs? Especially ones like UK that make money and have tradition in other sports. Basketball helps UK. Vandy is a college baseball powerhouse and has academic clout. Ole Miss is a southern cultural Mecca of sorts (thanks to Faulkner). It’s not like these schools are draining the league dry.

It might happen someday, but right now it sounds like a lot of trouble for schools like Bama and UGA to leave the SEC and start a new league. Probably just not worth it.
 
I don’t think they’ll regret Texas and A&M. But holding too dear to Vandy and few others may be a mistake. That being said, we’d be close to the cutting block too if the SEC begins to jettison teams.
No. One, we beat Mississippi State, Candy, South Carolina, and Missouri in average football viewers. And we hold our own. Kentucky vs Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee were all in Top 30 most watched regular season games.

Second, football is most important, but it's not all important. Kentucky basketball fills in the SEC TV slots for December through March. We contribute more than our fair share to why that TV contact is as high as it is. We might have 500,000 less on an average football game compared to Arkansas or Auburn. But bet we have maybe a million more viewers in basketball.

If you think North Carolina is desired for basketball and 800,000 football viewers. Imagine what we are with 1.3 million football watchers and our basketball team with SEC opponents dragging us down.

 
They've already ruined everything else anyways so might as well go ahead and break this up too. It's sad. At some point it's gotta get to a point to where the avg fan just don't care anymore and starts to lose interest. I'm almost there myself. Nobody will miss me and that's fine, but damn I sure do miss it. Its to a point it's barely recognizable and it's always in the back of my mind what will the next change be, and when. If shit ain't broke you shouldn't have to always be fixing it.
Well said. UK sports specifically, and college sports generally, are a 50 year habit for me now. I probably couldn’t drop it cold turkey even if I wanted to. But I’ve been to Rupp Arena once in the last four years and to Commonwealth Stadium once in the last three. It’s getting less interesting by the day and it is neither John Calipari or Mark Stoop’s fault. This whole thing has been FUBARed for what amounts to nothing more than pure greed.
 
Notre Dame to the SEC would be great, simply for the sake that it'd be the ultimate eff you to the Insignificant 10.
 
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Note dame makes more sense for the big ten. UNC and Florida state should be the two the SEC adds, they make the most sense. Then Miami or clemson as backup optiosn
Agree on ND. I hope we don’t add them and break the culturally/geographic concept of the expansion. The B10 has basically abandoned it and picked up anyone they can. The SEC is still connected geographically and culturally in alignment with the Southeast.

While FSU and Clemson are both great brands, they don’t expand the TV Markets. UNC and VaTech would be the best fits from a SEC footprint, culture, TV Market stand point. The State of VA is a VT state. UVA is viewed as elites and a lot of NE student body/influence similar to Duke. I’ve been stationed all over the country and almost every city I’ve been to has a Virginia Tech bar which I always found crazy but I believe it’s due to being in military cities (San Diego for example) and VT having the 2nd larger Corps of Cadets (Texas AM is first) and both those universities are your only 2 major P5 universities with standing Corps of Cadets (not just ROTC programs). Your other schools are the size of the Citadel and VMI etc
 
Agree on ND. I hope we don’t add them and break the culturally/geographic concept of the expansion. The B10 has basically abandoned it and picked up anyone they can. The SEC is still connected geographically and culturally in alignment with the Southeast.

While FSU and Clemson are both great brands, they don’t expand the TV Markets. UNC and VaTech would be the best fits from a SEC footprint, culture, TV Market stand point. The State of VA is a VT state. UVA is viewed as elites and a lot of NE student body/influence similar to Duke. I’ve been stationed all over the country and almost every city I’ve been to has a Virginia Tech bar which I always found crazy but I believe it’s due to being in military cities (San Diego for example) and VT having the 2nd larger Corps of Cadets (Texas AM is first) and both those universities are your only 2 major P5 universities with standing Corps of Cadets (not just ROTC programs). Your other schools are the size of the Citadel and VMI etc
UNC and VT are a no brainer. Get the rest of the south into the SEC.
 
ND is one of the few schools, if not the only, that would take a pay cut by joining the SEC.

For that reason alone they won’t join.

And as long as they can continue to name their price they won’t join any conference for football.

They might align with a conference for all other sports.
 
Why do people listen to talk shows? In the off season, the main reason they exist is to invent news and this is an example of that.
 
Agree on ND. I hope we don’t add them and break the culturally/geographic concept of the expansion. The B10 has basically abandoned it and picked up anyone they can. The SEC is still connected geographically and culturally in alignment with the Southeast.

While FSU and Clemson are both great brands, they don’t expand the TV Markets. UNC and VaTech would be the best fits from a SEC footprint, culture, TV Market stand point. The State of VA is a VT state. UVA is viewed as elites and a lot of NE student body/influence similar to Duke. I’ve been stationed all over the country and almost every city I’ve been to has a Virginia Tech bar which I always found crazy but I believe it’s due to being in military cities (San Diego for example) and VT having the 2nd larger Corps of Cadets (Texas AM is first) and both those universities are your only 2 major P5 universities with standing Corps of Cadets (not just ROTC programs). Your other schools are the size of the Citadel and VMI etc
Is tech good in any sport at all? I feel like Florida state is atleast good at some stuff to justify adding them
 
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THE new battlegrounds are North Carolina and Virginia. Both the SEC and Big Ten will have them on their most wanted list if Notre Dame is off the board. Think UNC prefers the SEC for athletic excellence. Think Virginia prefers BIG Ten for academic excellence with decent athletics. Will be fascinating to play out. People assume Clemson and Florida State are the top targets but there has been reporting UNC & Virginia are actually the targets.
I don't want anything to do with North Carolina. They have gotten away with the worst violations and never have paid for their recent cheating in basketball.
 
Is tech good in any sport at all? I feel like Florida state is atleast good at some stuff to justify adding them
Nothing to do with how good they are, it’s about adding the market, growing the footprint. F$U does not grow the footprint. Their market is essentially the same as UF’s market. They wouldn’t add that many more eyeballs. VT adds the Virginia/DC markets. That’s why they are in the discussion.
 
A lot of people agree with me. ND is a dog crap program and thinks they are better than everyone else. F Rudi and F that stupid lepracaun.
I don't like ND either, but calling them "a cesspool of humanity " is WAY extra and kinda crazy. Maybe Penn State when the molester was there would fit that- not Notre Dame!
 
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No. One, we beat Mississippi State, Candy, South Carolina, and Missouri in average football viewers. And we hold our own. Kentucky vs Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee were all in Top 30 most watched regular season games.

Second, football is most important, but it's not all important. Kentucky basketball fills in the SEC TV slots for December through March. We contribute more than our fair share to why that TV contact is as high as it is. We might have 500,000 less on an average football game compared to Arkansas or Auburn. But bet we have maybe a million more viewers in basketball.

If you think North Carolina is desired for basketball and 800,000 football viewers. Imagine what we are with 1.3 million football watchers and our basketball team with SEC opponents dragging us down.

U6 63rd. 🤣
 
Nothing to do with how good they are, it’s about adding the market, growing the footprint. F$U does not grow the footprint. Their market is essentially the same as UF’s market. They wouldn’t add that many more eyeballs. VT adds the Virginia/DC markets. That’s why they are in the discussion.
If it’s a worry about markets then Miami would be better than va tech, I see Miami fans everywhere
 
If it’s a worry about markets then Miami would be better than va tech, I see Miami fans everywhere
Same market as UF.

I know, more Miami fans in Miami, but that’s only part of the equation.

A school has to add A LOT more to the conference.

Not sure if adding a few more eyeballs in Miami is going to move the needle, when the SEC already has a piece of that market thanks to UF.
 
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Same market as UF.

I know, more Miami fans in Miami, but that’s only part of the equation.

A school has to add A LOT more to the conference.

Not sure if adding a few more eyeballs in Miami is going to move the needle, when the SEC already has a piece of that market thanks to UF.
True, I guess I’m blinded by the performance in the actual sports aspect of it, and va tech isn’t a cool team or name, but the SEC is concerned with money Mikey eveyvody else, adding va tech or Virginia and the DC area and Virginia market will help
 
I don’t think they’ll regret Texas and A&M. But holding too dear to Vandy and few others may be a mistake. That being said, we’d be close to the cutting block too if the SEC begins to jettison teams.
We are KENTUCKY... I thought we were the staple that holds the SEC.... lol. I literally herd some arrogant fans think "know way Kentucky gets put out. There a "founding father". I never thought that argument stood up. Other than Vandy I think we would be the very next hack. Just don't add much value. The KENTUCKY MARKET isn't a thing anyone wants really. Is it?
 
We are KENTUCKY... I thought we were the staple that holds the SEC.... lol. I literally herd some arrogant fans think "know way Kentucky gets put out. There a "founding father". I never thought that argument stood up. Other than Vandy I think we would be the very next hack. Just don't add much value. The KENTUCKY MARKET isn't a thing anyone wants really. Is it?
What a awful post
 
Notre Dame is already a part time member of the ACC. I believe I read they have some type of agreement with the ACC if they joined a conference. It would be them.
Give me FSU and UNC or Miami. All 3 are usually solid in football and basketball.
 
What’s to stop the football schools from paying the UK board members to willingly leave the conference? It’s not up to fans or season ticket holders after all.

Or what if the big football schools just formed their new, non regional conference and invited the 15-20 biggest football schools?
It would be stupid. Football isn’t the only collegiate sport that makes money, college basketball is a money maker. One thing I hate about realignment is how football centric it is.

If the Power 2 kick out teams because they aren’t football centric I’ll stop watching college sports all together
 
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We are KENTUCKY... I thought we were the staple that holds the SEC.... lol. I literally herd some arrogant fans think "know way Kentucky gets put out. There a "founding father". I never thought that argument stood up. Other than Vandy I think we would be the very next hack. Just don't add much value. The KENTUCKY MARKET isn't a thing anyone wants really. Is it?
WTF bro
 
I guess I'll ask it in a question. If the SEC announced tomorrow(knowing football drives this thing) that 2 to as many as 3 teams will be removed for conference realignment. Do you think Kentucky would be one? Considering nobody wants Duke or Kansas(basketball schools). They could make a basketball conference and put Uk,Duke,Kansas and a few other basketball schools. Anyway I'm getting off track. Do you think Kentucky is locked in the SEC? And if you do is it because they where a original school. One that started with it so to speak. The whole state has 3 million people. That can't be a market they really want. Is it. I'm not being an ass I'm asking because I think something like that could happen.
 
I guess I'll ask it in a question. If the SEC announced tomorrow(knowing football drives this thing) that 2 to as many as 3 teams will be removed for conference realignment. Do you think Kentucky would be one? Considering nobody wants Duke or Kansas(basketball schools). They could make a basketball conference and put Uk,Duke,Kansas and a few other basketball schools. Anyway I'm getting off track. Do you think Kentucky is locked in the SEC? And if you do is it because they where a original school. One that started with it so to speak
Seeing as UK isn’t horrible at football anymore and is a basketball power, I’d say no.
 
Wonder if espn is behind Stanford to acc due to being left out of west coast in realignment
 
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