None of the top recruits are coming ...
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I have a source that told me that the looney toons episode where Sylvester tried to lure Speedy Gonzalez out of his mouse hole by rolling himself up in an enchilada was racist. What do they think, mexicans can't resist any enchilada they see out in the middle of the street?!
Seems like he has been in some kind of trouble before, just couldn't remember what for.
I mean... when you are right you are right. Gotta give you credit (as mush as it sucks).
I'm hoping we land Murray.
Either way, we have a solid team without these guys
Either way, we have a solid team without these guys
Brown seems pretty unlikely, Murray we don't even know will be in this class....1 probably not 2 meant Mulder
Murray is at the top of my list. He is the missing ingredient, IMHO.
Murray and Brown would put us right there with Duke and UNC as the favorites. Probably preseason 2 or 3.
Murray and Brown would put us right there with Duke and UNC as the favorites. Probably preseason 2 or 3.
Kentucky's not pre-season top 3? Elaborate. Duke lost their key players, returns less than UK technically, and is rolling with a freshman PG to say the least. Kentucky at least returns the player that will run this team, has the top projected player in the draft, and the top player in the incoming class (per Rivals). Bring in the top PG in this class as well, who scores the ball very well. We now have athletic wings who can shoot the 3 very well, and have an elite offensive rebounder and defender starting the 4 for us next season (he'll be a senior), with another terrific rebounder/defender coming off the bench for him.
Doesn't mean he knew one way or another. It was already out there we were unlikely to get anyone.
I don't know if he knew "inside" info or not, but I said 2 or 3 weeks ago that our recruiting was going to take a hit when Duke won the title. I was mostly looking at 2016, but had a bad feeling about 2015 as well. The reason I complained at fans who cheered for Duke over WI. People will say, "Diello didn't sign with Duke, nor did Newman, etc, etc." but Duke showed that Cal doesn't have a magic wand for winning with young players and going pro. I hate to say it but last year if Embiid had not been injured KU may have done the deed just like Duke did this year.
I don't like hearing that, but when you have 7 guys declare for the NBA, and a couple more that will go pro after next year to the point that you have 2 starting lineups that any team in America would dream of having and you don't win it all, maybe recruits and coaches start to chatter?
To have that much talent this year by comparison to every team out there and not win doesn't sit well. While we're all talking it up about 4 Final Fours, padding ourselves on the back, and how "elite" that is, are recruits starting to say Cal's had more elite talent, both in number of recruits and their ranking, and yet can only win 1 title. I get the heavy turnover rate the year we missed out on the tournament, but with the amount of top level talent that were brought in, an NIT is a major fail.
Think about it. People are acting like it's doomsday because only the 2nd best recruiting class is coming in. So we have to have EVERY or damn near close to every top guy each year to be a contender, but other teams have found a way with WAY WAY LESS!
If Cal isn't signing absurdly talented recruiting classes year in and year out, what are the expectations then with "less talented" guys...
All 7 guys declared a while ago, and yet not 1 top unsigned guy has been interested?
Depressing.
Cal is only putting more players in the NBA than any other program. UK won't struggle in 2016.
Yes I do. I am true blue all the way.
Go look at all my posts over the last 5 years. Nothing would suggest otherwise.
It doesn't change the fact that you'd rather be smug than wrong. It takes a special kind of person to gloat over widely believed info when it's negative about their favorite team.
Go ahead and post all the positive "insider sources" you've shared, by the way. True blue for five years means there should be plenty with a connection that's never wrong.
Can we hang a banner for that? Call Creane's banner guy. Let's get that going.
I don't think the OP is a UK fan in any way shape or form but I really don't care. All I know is that he nailed it. He said we wouldn't get any of the big name recruits and we didn't. I don't care if he had a 'source' or not, his prediction was dead on and 99% of this board thought he was nuts.....including myself. I can't say that anymore. We still have a great recruiting class and I think we'll be a contender but the OP was right as much as I hate to admit it.
The same thing was being said by most all of the major prognosticators. Wasn't exactly going out on a limb, especially since he didn't predict where anyone was going.
The one I wanted the most was Diallo. I don't like how it's turning out, but I'll give you credit for calling it right.
I don't know if the changes have been made to accommodate it, but I hope the "one more" is Thon Maker. If so, that'd (maybe?) explain some of our latest whiffs... that, and also hoping that means Skal is very very good!
Regardless, I hope the Cats that we'll have next year can really pile up the points.
I guess people see things different, but I would hardly put the words "UK Basketball" and "missing on top recruits" in the same sentence
It's not like Briscoe, Mulder, Matthews and Labissiere are chopped liver, Briscoe and Labissiere are probably 1 and done from what little I've watched of them. Maybe Mulder and Matthews are guys that stay more than 1 year. Recruiting's still not over either, Thon Maker could easily be a Wildcat if he opts for the college route, but if he's not, this class is pretty damn good.
You could look at it 2 ways. One, you don't have as much NBA ready talent for the 2015-2016 season, so you may or may not be a powerhouse team this coming season. But on the flip side, if those spots are filled with guys that have talent, just not elite NBA ready talent, you get a crop of guys that will stay in the program and develop for 2,3,4 years. UK recruiting is never going to be bad under Calipari. Seems if he doesn't get 5 McDonald's All Americans every year, it's a down year, when in reality there are probably over 300 schools that would trade places with UK right now.
It's not like Briscoe, Mulder, Matthews and Labissiere are chopped liver, Briscoe and Labissiere are probably 1 and done from what little I've watched of them. Maybe Mulder and Matthews are guys that stay more than 1 year. Recruiting's still not over either, Thon Maker could easily be a Wildcat if he opts for the college route, but if he's not, this class is pretty damn good.
You could look at it 2 ways. One, you don't have as much NBA ready talent for the 2015-2016 season, so you may or may not be a powerhouse team this coming season. But on the flip side, if those spots are filled with guys that have talent, just not elite NBA ready talent, you get a crop of guys that will stay in the program and develop for 2,3,4 years. UK recruiting is never going to be bad under Calipari. Seems if he doesn't get 5 McDonald's All Americans every year, it's a down year, when in reality there are probably over 300 schools that would trade places with UK right now.
This is an excellent post and why I fear that the Calipari era of success at UK is coming to a close. The title is damn difficult to win regardless of having the most talent. But Uconn has won two in the time Cal has been here with no where near the talent. People say all the time "how can anyone bitch with all the final fours and success Cal has had since he's been here", well if he were doing it with a bunch of Richie Farmers no one would complain at all. He's had the best players every year. Eventually you have to say, why hasn't he won more titles? The NIT year was his worst job and inexcusable in my opinion. This is when I started wondering if Cal really was "just a great recruiter" and what his true intentions were for the program.
He sure was, wasn't he?
Obviously, most who claim to have sources are posers, but a few are legit now and then.
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