Just so that there is no confusion, can you post the link where people can sign up for donations?
NIL Collective- Have I ever steered you wrong?
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Just so that there is no confusion, can you post the link where people can sign up for donations?
read the 15 website... it says you will be able to choose which player receives your money. more transparency in January i believe.
"Look at me, I'm such a good fan, im not gonna support 84 players because 1 hurt my feels"
Well, that’s pretty cool, but no way that’s actually true.
The whole idea of this stuff is beyond absurd when the University makes X amount of money off these kids, but the University is begging YOU to pay them.
I’m not a pimp, but I’m pretty sure this is how pimping works.
Well I'm giving the K-Fund $2200 a year in K-fund for my 4 seats. If Mitch would take $1200 of that and give the collective the $1000, I would be ECSTATIC!!!
Actually, I would be the HAPPIEST if ALL $2200 went to the NIL Collective for football!!!
IMO this is going to cause a lot of division with the player if a hand full of player get most of the money.
"it says you will be able to choose which player receives your money. more transparency in January i believe."
"it says you will be able to choose which player receives your money. more transparency in January i believe."
Did not mean to step on your toes. You can give away your money to whoever you want. I just don’t want part of my real life paycheck to be going toward some 19 year old’s Porsche payment.
Exactly...this is the path Mitch could go....but he won't. Fans pay a pretty penny to subsidize the program, coaches, facilities, etc...already to but tix and pay the cable bills for ESPN, SEC network etc...a portion of that also goes back to colleges as well.
To ask Joe fan to pay $50 more per month ($600 per year) to NIL up some kids on top of their current pay to go to games, tix, etc...sort of a crazy plan to be honest.
Thanks for the all you do, Brady. But like others, I'd prefer to watch the NCAA burn to the ground than personally have to give money directly to the players. The NCAA makes billions off of this sport - if we are going this route, make them employees, let them unionize, and then hash it out.
Of course, we are where we are because of "Moron" Mark Emmert and his band of clowns who, even though they knew this could be a possible outcome, were too arrogant to have a plan in case NIL became a reality. In addition, leave it to our legal system to mandate people should be able to cash in on their NIL, when they are primarily famous doing something that requires you to be an amateur to compete. Kids don't have to play college FB. You have a choice - keep it clean and go play college FB or don't. Pretty simple until you lawyers and judges involved and they can't see the forest through the trees.
Of course, we are where we are because of "Moron" Mark Emmert and his band of clowns who, even though they knew this could be a possible outcome, were too arrogant to have a plan in case NIL became a reality. In addition, leave it to our legal system to mandate people should be able to cash in on their NIL, when they are primarily famous doing something that requires you to be an amateur to compete. Kids don't have to play college FB. You have a choice - keep it clean and go play college FB or don't. Pretty simple until you lawyers and judges involved and they can't see the forest through the trees.
Yeah but it really has nothing to do with the NCAA now.
This expectation that some "big donors" should or are going to step-in is ridiculous. That being said, a lot of UK fans I think are willing to pitch in but I also think there needs to be an even smaller fee on an annual basis. If 5% of the state population paid $20 a year that would generate $4.5 million. I know the athletic department and the university cannot actively control or direct an NIL fund but could the alumni chapters help to raise funds? They are independent of the university. There are UK grads in all 120 counties, surely some sort of grassroots fundraising and then you have the out of state chapters. The biggest thing is oversight that money goes where it is supposed to go.
Ralph Hacker got on my nerves about a lot of things but he said one thing I always thought was dead on. He said, and I'm paraphrasing, that national sports media will talk about celebrations or tears in Lexington for UK but the heart and soul, the life of Wildcat sports is Cadiz, Paintsville, Beaver Dam, Cynthiana, Corbin. Lexington is just where they play. If you make everyone across the state feel a part of it, they will help.
Ralph Hacker got on my nerves about a lot of things but he said one thing I always thought was dead on. He said, and I'm paraphrasing, that national sports media will talk about celebrations or tears in Lexington for UK but the heart and soul, the life of Wildcat sports is Cadiz, Paintsville, Beaver Dam, Cynthiana, Corbin. Lexington is just where they play. If you make everyone across the state feel a part of it, they will help.
...and to your point, I think UK fails pretty often in that regard, especially in the western part of the state. Sometimes they outright alienate some areas. Autograph tours and "fan days" in the rural areas and in cities outside Lexington would do a lot to help UK football
I work for a living. Ridiculous they expect average blue collar fans to subsidize what amounts to payroll. Eff that.
Some of y'all are number & math illiterate, so let me help with the calculations Brady is giving
UK collective needs $3 or 4 mil annually
Collective needs 15000 fans contributions
So if 15k fans gave $200/yr or $17/month = $3M
$267/yr or $22/mo = $4M
UK collective needs $3 or 4 mil annually
Collective needs 15000 fans contributions
So if 15k fans gave $200/yr or $17/month = $3M
$267/yr or $22/mo = $4M
I agree. Ticket prices, K Fund donations, parking prices, overpriced food and drinks at the stadium and now NIL contributions? It's getting pretty expensive to be a fan these days. No offense but for average working fans to pay that kind of money annually they should get more than access to discounted merchandise or exclusive videos because thus far it hasn't bought us any more wins than we had before. I mean there are only so many players that the top teams can take so the trickle down effect says some of them will have to go other places like UK.
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Someone asked for this but I am in the middle of a margarita so I don’t know if it has been posted.
All in with Brady James as just signed up for my monthly contribution. Any active member of CatsIllustrated Forum Forum or House of Blue knows all the good done by this man for all things UK sports related especially football has been nothing short of selfless. As the old saying goes “It Takes A Village” I support getting behind this endeavor for at least a year and hopefully together we can help UK NIL get to the next level.
I am cheap, I would 100% sign up for 10 a month, but $25 a little too steep after the results of this season for me personally
It’s 12 months a year and the next year they are expect it year after year. The spicket stays on year after year
How about speaking for the AD? You couldn't do much worse.
Yes, unfortunately, it is a big part of his job which is why we lost 20,000 season ticket holders and had two two win seasons.
It's not UK specific but everything I have is UK. Every piece of clothing, every piece of memorabilia, all of it is about to go into the garbage can. I think my time and money can best be spent elsewhere if that's the system in place.
Again, Thank a you Brady James, for highlighting this subject. I’m signing up and will do $500.00 in January. If I can then specify players, I’ll ask that it go to linemen.
There are some great ideas, above. Regarding Alumni groups, there has been some discussion of the QB Club focusing on NIL production, at least on a modest scale.
I realize some are pissed. Just read this thread. But at the end of the day, personally, I am glad that the young men who literally risk life and limb playing football can receive money for their efforts.
The typical keyboard warrior is easily tempted to call the athletes, “spoiled,” or imply the money will pay for a Porsch. Ninety percent of NIL money nationally will be for pretty modest compensation, at the end of the day, with there being some splashy exceptions.
And in addition to the collectives, there will still be big time folks who want to help UK Athletics, and will do NIL deals.
I envision this effort as being “the base,” of funding, and allowing a broad spread of benefits. The Big Boys will still do the “splashy” stuff.
There are some great ideas, above. Regarding Alumni groups, there has been some discussion of the QB Club focusing on NIL production, at least on a modest scale.
I realize some are pissed. Just read this thread. But at the end of the day, personally, I am glad that the young men who literally risk life and limb playing football can receive money for their efforts.
The typical keyboard warrior is easily tempted to call the athletes, “spoiled,” or imply the money will pay for a Porsch. Ninety percent of NIL money nationally will be for pretty modest compensation, at the end of the day, with there being some splashy exceptions.
And in addition to the collectives, there will still be big time folks who want to help UK Athletics, and will do NIL deals.
I envision this effort as being “the base,” of funding, and allowing a broad spread of benefits. The Big Boys will still do the “splashy” stuff.
I would think our former players in the pro's would be a good source of donations? These donations would be tax deductible, right?
I can't believe NIL as it currently exists is sustainable. College football will get top heavy very quickly. The ideal solution would be for a percentage of the proceeds from those big conference-network contracts to be designated for NIL. But, until the players have bargaining power, I seriously doubt that will happen.
So, lets look at what Brady James is asking as a short-term test program. One year (maybe two for those who want) to give it a shot and see what happens. Not going to lie, $600 for one year is substantial for most of us. But, maybe we can cut our personal budget in some places to offset that number...for one year. Maybe cancel that gym membership you never use? Or try giving up smoking...I know cig's cost more than $50 per month!
I think it's worth a try and I am going to contribute. And if I don't like how it's being handled or the results on the field, I can always choose to not contribute in 2024. Hopefully in a year or two there will be some other solution possible.
However, I do think a campaign of some sort that involves social media, radio and TV, etc. needs to happen. That's the only way you can reach enough people to make it work.
So, lets look at what Brady James is asking as a short-term test program. One year (maybe two for those who want) to give it a shot and see what happens. Not going to lie, $600 for one year is substantial for most of us. But, maybe we can cut our personal budget in some places to offset that number...for one year. Maybe cancel that gym membership you never use? Or try giving up smoking...I know cig's cost more than $50 per month!
I think it's worth a try and I am going to contribute. And if I don't like how it's being handled or the results on the field, I can always choose to not contribute in 2024. Hopefully in a year or two there will be some other solution possible.
However, I do think a campaign of some sort that involves social media, radio and TV, etc. needs to happen. That's the only way you can reach enough people to make it work.
Sustaining members who initially sign up will be an issue.
It's just human nature that people will overvalue their contribution or have unrealistic expectations.
What happened at aTm this past season would put a huge dent in UK's NIL effort IMO.
Just remember there are only two basketball schools in the soon to be 16 team SEC.
Every school will be pushing hard.
I think its an illusion that this 15 club will send UK surging to the top.
UK's NIL effort will be used by other schools to define the least expected of their fanbase.
It's just human nature that people will overvalue their contribution or have unrealistic expectations.
What happened at aTm this past season would put a huge dent in UK's NIL effort IMO.
Just remember there are only two basketball schools in the soon to be 16 team SEC.
Every school will be pushing hard.
I think its an illusion that this 15 club will send UK surging to the top.
UK's NIL effort will be used by other schools to define the least expected of their fanbase.
Here’s some math
Cal‘s buy out is 50 mil give or take which means the athletic department has budgeted about 5 mil a year in some slush fund to be paid out over x years, probably 10 give or take, if they ever had to fire him.
Tell Cal “it’s for the players…UK is players first…they got to eat and feed their families“
Great news Cal...your players don’t have to wait til draft night, we’re going to pay them now…with your money…
So there’s your 4.5-5 mil NIL money for the next decade.
Same goes for Stoops...I’m sure his buyout is much smaller but go ahead and tell him to throw it in the pot so he can beat UGA, Texas, and Oklahoma
You more about this and have had to deal with JMI. Is there a way to market this more? Just a thought but UK graduates a few thousand students a year. It looks like if this was marketed right they could find enough 25 a month donors. I signed when I seen your post the other day
I agree with this. I am puzzled by the temper tantrums about NIL. If people don't want to give money, then they shouldn't. For those of us who are following the lead of Brady James, and want to donate, I'm glad that the players will benefit (and I'm glad that it will help UK to get good players).
It's like people who bitch about having to pay income taxes. I hate them too, but they're not going anywhere.
When has college football NOT been top heavy? When in the last 150 yrs has it been fair, every school playing D1 gets the same level of talent and financial support??
Sport has ALWAYS been top heavy, a mix of the same 15 or so schools will be in the top 15. Some fade out, like Nebraska, some rise up, like Oregon. But it mostly is the same ones who care about winning bo matter what.
You just equated NIL with taxes. Thank you for making my point.
For those of you constantly complaining/debating go out and find something that makes you happy. Just no reason to be so angry and argumentative on a message board.
Florida was very mediocre before Spurrier. LSU before Saban.
UCLA and USC have slipped considerably in the last 10 years.
My point is, if UK can find a way to be competitive in the SEC on a regular basis, the opportunities to make a 12 team CFP here and there will present themselves. Is it harder at UK than the traditional power schools? Yes, but nothing is impossible.
I just can’t see myself paying these kids that are in college when the schools already make millions off of them. Then they turn around and all the big names are sitting out of the bowl game you know the ones that are getting the big NIL money. I appreciate what you’re doing Brady.
I don't know much about him. I do know some things he's done as far as giving away tickets and such, and he said he did an NIL deal with Levis. I haven't followed the NIL deals tbh. Just saw some ads here and there
It was the wrong thread. But with two seconds left he didn’t guard the inbounds passer and let UNC advance the ball to midcourt to set up the game tying shot.
Yeah. Thank God it's not a tax... yet.
None of this addresses how a member gets to use a player's name, image, or likeness for their business. We're not all in the "oooo, autographed photos" business. I'm happy it works for some, but it's pretty ashole-ish to throw shade at people that want questions answered or don't have the money to do both NIL and season tickets.
I can see why people wouldn't want to pay athletes to play for UK, especially when they can just "opt out" of fulfilling their obligations whenever they see fit, or transfer anywhere anytime. They're already getting a free and pampered education with luxury room and board, training, and travel thrown in.
I can also definitely see people not wanting to pay it when the university hasn't done anything for them in any way, shape, or form. Not everyone worships the school or the education industry. Some worked to be where they are through apprenticeships and/or time in the trades, factory work, service industry, etc.
It's not really about "steering people wrong" so much as whether it makes sense financially for people. When you have plenty of money to throw at someone, and your business is selling memorabilia, it sure sounds like a win-win. Outside of that, though, it's just throwing money away and maybe you can afford to enjoy it or not. Not that people with money really care much about people without it, of course (@bradyjames being the exception obviously).
It certainly won't make happier fans of UK Football in years they may struggle for any of a number of valid reasons.
It actually sounds like Cal. At least we wouldn't have to adjust our expectations...
