Next year will be a rebuilding year

[BGWentworth]

Let that thought sink in. We’re a junior/senior ladened team from a starter perspective. This is a guess as to impact players that will leave after this year. I feel pretty confident none of these guys will be here next season. Not that they’re all world beaters, but we’ll lose the nucleus of our defense and not many of our freshmen have played or likely will play unless we make it to a bowl game. I could also see Vandagriff leaving as well since we’ll have no OL again (will probably be worse) and his one good WR target will be gone. Too many holes to fill in the portal with very little NIL $.

Maxwell Hairston
Sumo Karngbaye
Deone Walker
Dane Key
Barion Brown
Dumas Johnson
Octavios Oxendine
Zion Childress
JJ Weaver
Alex Raynor
D’Eryk Jackson
Marquez Cox
Courtland Ford
Gerald Mincey
Eli Cox
Tree’vonn Rybka
Alex Afari

The only good news is that if we fail to make a bowl or even if we go 6-6 this year, Stoops is likely to bail knowing that next year there is a good chance we go winless in the SEC.

 

[dallasg23]

Then what the **** is this year?

 

[BGWentworth]

Then what the **** is this year?

This is the season that we had our best shot at going to the playoff (albeit not a good one). Unfortunately, yet again, we have one of the worst offenses in the country. We’re averaging 1 touchdown per SEC game. Just think how next year will go when we lose 3 starters and top backup from our Oline, our best offensive weapon and most of our defensive starters.
There’s a common denominator as to why we’ve never had a great offense in 12 years with 5 different offensive coordinators, and his name rhymes with poops.

 

[BigBlue1992]

Yep that’s pretty scary. And if Brock has even an ounce of confidence in himself, I can’t imagine he sticks around. I know he’s been terrible but he’s a five star recruit that was good enough to go to Georgia. I think he’s better than what we’re seeing.

And what in the world is going on with Chip? I’m assuming we’ll never see him in a UK uniform.

 

[Bluefield88]

You woke up every morning from April through August thinking we had a chance to make the CFP?

 

[UKWildcats1987]

You woke up every morning from April through August thinking we had a chance to make the CFP?

Yeah. I never thought UK had a shot at the playoff. That means going 10 and 2 and UK never does that n modern era. Don't think we see 9 and 3 again n NIL era either.

I know people will say 9 and 3 gets some in and I agree. It will be the big brand teams though like a bama or uga or osu, etc. They aren't putting a 9 win UK team over those types of teams.

 

[BGWentworth]

You woke up every morning from April through August thinking we had a chance to make the CFP?

The best chance we will have for the foreseeable future. Did I think we would make the CFP, with this coaching staff? No. With a good coaching staff, it would have been possible to have a 2023 Missouri type year if things fell our way. I actually think we have a good defense, but Stoops will never have a good offense. It's not in his genes. You could get the best offensive coordinator in the country and bring him here, and Stoops would undermine him the entire time.

 

[jeffky]

Then what the **** is this year?

 

[TucsonCat]

Eh. I'm only worried about offensive line. Barring portal miracle, they will actually get worse. Defense might not be as good, but they'll still be good.

 

[catsfanbgky]

Then what the **** is this year?

Disappointing ???

Does Vandergriff have another year ? I thought he only had one year remaining ??? I would maybe rather have him for a second year (maybe he improves after finally getting game reps and a off season to work on his many issues), than start all over with a green QB or another transfer QB having to learn the system. Unless said transfer would be a top stud portal guy.
We have a couple young, talented RB;s who I think can be really good, but O-Line is going to determine that even. Where are Key and Brown going ? Definitely not up in class, maybe they transfer, but it will not be to a better situation. If they was to land at a Bama or Georgia as a example, they will not get the reps they get at UK, too much talent to beat out.

 

[The-Hack]

Brock V. ain’t going anywhere, unless to another school.

Hairston likely won’t want to test the waters with a recent health issue: see Josh Pascal for staying that extra year post illness.

As for defense, if our injured bigguns make it back, we have a lot of talent in waiting in defense.

 

[K_TIME]

Let that thought sink in. We’re a junior/senior ladened team from a starter perspective. This is a guess as to impact players that will leave after this year. I feel pretty confident none of these guys will be here next season. Not that they’re all world beaters, but we’ll lose the nucleus of our defense and not many of our freshmen have played or likely will play unless we make it to a bowl game. I could also see Vandagriff leaving as well since we’ll have no OL again (will probably be worse) and his one good WR target will be gone. Too many holes to fill in the portal with very little NIL $.

Maxwell Hairston
Sumo Karngbaye
Deone Walker
Dane Key
Barion Brown
Dumas Johnson
Octavios Oxendine
Zion Childress
JJ Weaver
Alex Raynor
D’Eryk Jackson
Marquez Cox
Courtland Ford
Gerald Mincey
Eli Cox
Tree’vonn Rybka
Alex Afari

The only good news is that if we fail to make a bowl or even if we go 6-6 this year, Stoops is likely to bail knowing that next year there is a good chance we go winless in the SEC.

I agree …next year appears to be a major rebuild

I don’t see all the NIL in the world able to fix next year

 

[Boz]

Let that thought sink in. We’re a junior/senior ladened team from a starter perspective. This is a guess as to impact players that will leave after this year. I feel pretty confident none of these guys will be here next season. Not that they’re all world beaters, but we’ll lose the nucleus of our defense and not many of our freshmen have played or likely will play unless we make it to a bowl game. I could also see Vandagriff leaving as well since we’ll have no OL again (will probably be worse) and his one good WR target will be gone. Too many holes to fill in the portal with very little NIL $.

Maxwell Hairston
Sumo Karngbaye
Deone Walker
Dane Key
Barion Brown
Dumas Johnson
Octavios Oxendine
Zion Childress
JJ Weaver
Alex Raynor
D’Eryk Jackson
Marquez Cox
Courtland Ford
Gerald Mincey
Eli Cox
Tree’vonn Rybka
Alex Afari

The only good news is that if we fail to make a bowl or even if we go 6-6 this year, Stoops is likely to bail knowing that next year there is a good chance we go winless in the SEC.

we've been rebuilding for 75 or 80 years. Few good seasons mixed in.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

“Every” yr is a rebuilding yr for UK football

 

[Eccain01]

The defense won’t be as good but it will be fine. Offensively tho upfront could be a an absolute disaster. You can find young skill players and I’d assume Brock would be better but the line is going to really bad unless they pull some magic in the portal

 

[blue cincy]

I think with the way things are going we will see a large group of our 1s or 2s leave (that were going to come back). I do not see how with Stoops starting to throw guys under the bus and not living up to expectations, how we keep all our guys. Next year will be more than a rebuild. By 2026 we will be discussing the good ole days of Stoops year 4 through 8. If things continue with the coaching, call playing, mistakes, poor play on offense we will be looking at some 3 and 9 or 4 and 8 years, possibly like this year. Maybe be 5 and 7 or 6-6 this year. Only going down hill from here as Stoops continues to underwhelm for 12 years now off of bye weeks. If you are unwilling to look inward on something like that then you will not look inward on any of the larger issues, like this 1950s offense.

 

[Pelosigalore]

The entire ol stinks
Who cares if they are all gone

 

[YardCat]

This is the season that we had our best shot at going to the playoff (albeit not a good one). Unfortunately, yet again, we have one of the worst offenses in the country. We’re averaging 1 touchdown per SEC game. Just think how next year will go when we lose 3 starters and top backup from our Oline, our best offensive weapon and most of our defensive starters.
There’s a common denominator as to why we’ve never had a great offense in 12 years with 5 different offensive coordinators, and his name rhymes with poops.

I agree somewhat, but we could hit the portal for O-line that are as bad as what we have this year. And where is BVG going to go? I don’t know if EKU would start him. I actually think we’ll have a better offense next year, it would be hard to get worse.

 

[dallasg23]

Brock V. ain’t going anywhere, unless to another school.

Hairston likely won’t want to test the waters with a recent health issue: see Josh Pascal for staying that extra year post illness.

As for defense, if our injured bigguns make it back, we have a lot of talent in waiting in defense.

Wont matter if the offense only score 7 touchdowns a year.

 

[catlogic15]

If next year is a rebuild, then let it be with a new coach.

 

[BlueTick2]

If next year is a rebuild, then let it be with a new coach.

May we can get Joker or Curry back. Or at least that type.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

As others have stated, we always be rebuilding.

 

[R.O.T.Muckinfush]

Biggest waste of talent I have seen. I think some of the synchphants... err... fans on this board never watch any other teams with a competent offense play. This offensive system is garbage and has been since Stoops got here. Never any rhythm. Grind it out and play keep away.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Biggest waste of talent I have seen. I think some of the synchphants... err... fans on this board never watch any other teams with a competent offense play. This offensive system is garbage and has been since Stoops got here. Never any rhythm. Grind it out and play keep away.

I'm honestly amazed we have went 10 and 3 twice with the offensive deficiencies. To be fair, we had rare good offenses those years (compared to rest of tenure). That is more to your point though and shows what happens the rare times we invested in having an offense with a pulse.

 

[R.O.T.Muckinfush]

I'm honestly amazed we have went 10 and 3 twice with the offensive deficiencies. To be fair, we had rare good offenses those years (compared to rest of tenure). That is more to your point though and shows what happens the rare times we invested in having an offense with a pulse.

I would say we had nfl laden talented defense to cover up alot of those offensive deficiencies as well.

 

[backinky2018]

Unfortunately, this roster and schedule was made for the playoff, but it ain't happening.

The schedule is hard, but there were a lot of name teams there for the plucking (we got ole miss, should have had Georgia, Tennessee is not as good as expected). Huge missed opportunity.

 

[R.O.T.Muckinfush]

Unfortunately, this roster and schedule was made for the playoff, but it ain't happening.

The schedule is hard, but there were a lot of name teams there for the plucking (we got ole miss, should have had Georgia, Tennessee is not as good as expected). Huge missed opportunity.

But lose to fricken vandy... getting that 6 or 7 win bowl game won't fool anyone any longer.

 

[Crazycat68]

Let that thought sink in. We’re a junior/senior ladened team from a starter perspective. This is a guess as to impact players that will leave after this year. I feel pretty confident none of these guys will be here next season. Not that they’re all world beaters, but we’ll lose the nucleus of our defense and not many of our freshmen have played or likely will play unless we make it to a bowl game. I could also see Vandagriff leaving as well since we’ll have no OL again (will probably be worse) and his one good WR target will be gone. Too many holes to fill in the portal with very little NIL $.

Maxwell Hairston
Sumo Karngbaye
Deone Walker
Dane Key
Barion Brown
Dumas Johnson
Octavios Oxendine
Zion Childress
JJ Weaver
Alex Raynor
D’Eryk Jackson
Marquez Cox
Courtland Ford
Gerald Mincey
Eli Cox
Tree’vonn Rybka
Alex Afari

The only good news is that if we fail to make a bowl or even if we go 6-6 this year, Stoops is likely to bail knowing that next year there is a good chance we go winless in the SEC.

As of now don’t see Afari going unless he transfers.

Could Courtland Ford get another year?

Will probably lose several to the portal as well.

 

[WildcatofNati2]

Key would be wise to return if he's thinking of the draft. He "could" be drafted but he needs four years to maximize his stock. Multiple that when it comes to Brown. Afari should be back. Hairston was on pace to be second day pick but he may want to return under the circumstances now. At least a couple of the d line guys should be able to have a 6th season, if they want it.

 

[Edgarman]

Then what the **** is this year?

I'm not sure what this year is either but I do know next year will be, "SAME O SAME O"

 

[megablue]

Let that thought sink in. We’re a junior/senior ladened team from a starter perspective. This is a guess as to impact players that will leave after this year. I feel pretty confident none of these guys will be here next season. Not that they’re all world beaters, but we’ll lose the nucleus of our defense and not many of our freshmen have played or likely will play unless we make it to a bowl game. I could also see Vandagriff leaving as well since we’ll have no OL again (will probably be worse) and his one good WR target will be gone. Too many holes to fill in the portal with very little NIL $.

Maxwell Hairston
Sumo Karngbaye
Deone Walker
Dane Key
Barion Brown
Dumas Johnson
Octavios Oxendine
Zion Childress
JJ Weaver
Alex Raynor
D’Eryk Jackson
Marquez Cox
Courtland Ford
Gerald Mincey
Eli Cox
Tree’vonn Rybka
Alex Afari

The only good news is that if we fail to make a bowl or even if we go 6-6 this year, Stoops is likely to bail knowing that next year there is a good chance we go winless in the SEC.

There is no question ... 10000% this ^^^

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Let that thought sink in. We’re a junior/senior ladened team from a starter perspective. This is a guess as to impact players that will leave after this year. I feel pretty confident none of these guys will be here next season. Not that they’re all world beaters, but we’ll lose the nucleus of our defense and not many of our freshmen have played or likely will play unless we make it to a bowl game. I could also see Vandagriff leaving as well since we’ll have no OL again (will probably be worse) and his one good WR target will be gone. Too many holes to fill in the portal with very little NIL $.

Maxwell Hairston
Sumo Karngbaye
Deone Walker
Dane Key
Barion Brown
Dumas Johnson
Octavios Oxendine
Zion Childress
JJ Weaver
Alex Raynor
D’Eryk Jackson
Marquez Cox
Courtland Ford
Gerald Mincey
Eli Cox
Tree’vonn Rybka
Alex Afari

The only good news is that if we fail to make a bowl or even if we go 6-6 this year, Stoops is likely to bail knowing that next year there is a good chance we go winless in the SEC.

Beyond the obvious ones, will hurt losing afari, tre, and djack. Hopefully one or all those guys have covid years they can take but i cant remember if they came in too late or what.

Of the bigger names, we van absorb the loss of dane, brown, and pop. Pop is slow and teams love to scheme him vs a rb in pass, as we saw it at least once every game. Dane and brown hurts but they also offset positives with alot of negative so they're easier to absorb.

Losing max will suck but hes been very injury prone and i was very encouraged from what i saw out of young guys vs ole miss. Plus we know white will find guys that can produce.

Offense is very concerning. We need to sign the recruits we have there and i dont have a ton of faith in bush. If you're stone especially, why sign to a place where they show they might rotate you to get an nil guy touches? The rotating qb stupidity is going to hurt us beyond the obvious negatives of this year.

 

[Pelosigalore]

Got to get Cutter Boley some reps this year.

 

[R.O.T.Muckinfush]

Got to get Cutter Boley some reps this year.

He'll never play a down under Stoops.

 

[Pelosigalore]

He'll never play a down under Stoops.

Unfortunately, you are probably right.

 

[GrandePdre]

Next year will be a L-O-O-O-O-O-O-N-N-N-N-N-N-G season.

 

[ukalum1988]

But lose to fricken vandy... getting that 6 or 7 win bowl game won't fool anyone any longer.

Speaking of bowls, if we limp our way to 6-6 (maybe 7-5), does anybody really want to go to Shreveport, Memphis, or Birmingham over the holidays to watch them play?

I’m hoping the 12-team playoff will seriously cut down the number of meaningless bowl games.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

He'll never play a down under Stoops.

This. Brock next year then stone, assuming he comes, will beat him out.

We really need to hold on to stone. Saw some very positive things said about him from people who have a very good eye.