Muschamp
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USCjr has the 27th rated class (UK is 29th) with 27 commits and an average 3.04 star ratings. That isn't awful but it isn't lights out by any means. Muschamp needs his 3-4 years but as an outsider...I still don't get why he was offered that job.
I see a USC team that is just like a less talented UF team when he was coaching them. Sort of bumbling on offense and not crisp. They play solid D. But nothing overwhelming at all.
I see a USC team that is just like a less talented UF team when he was coaching them. Sort of bumbling on offense and not crisp. They play solid D. But nothing overwhelming at all.
He'll likely hold the class together, but I think SCAR has made a terrible mistake with his hire.
Muschamp is going to fail. If you can't get it done at Florida with their talent, you aren't going to get it done at USCjr. The man is coordinator material, not head coach.
Muschamp and playing awful go hand in hand. He's a defensive guy but his offense has always been offensive
I don't dispute that, as it makes sense, but I see guys like Franklin and Strong, both of whom proved themselves as HCs in lesser programs, struggling to keep their heads above water at traditional powers where winning should be easier.
Muschamp essentially brought the exact same staff to Columbia that failed with him in Gainesville. It makes no sense. I do not see him succeeding long term, but the questions is what is success at South Carolina? Before Spurrier, it wasn't much more than UK. Then Spurrier starting winning 8-10, which probably isn't going to happen anymore.
Because it takes a good bit of luck to rebuild a program quickly. Or you can fire quick and a guy like Franklin will recruit the talent and make the new guy look great.
Because about 4 others had turned them down. They thought they had Smart, Herman, they will tell you Rich Rod wasn't offered, but he wouldn't have made the trip to interview just for kicks and giggles, Fuentes was also someone they were interested in. Their AD had a 2 month head start on hiring a new coach and names were falling off the list, panic hire. Muschamp was not going to be at AU this season, he was going to be our DC and USC hired him to be head coach. The biggest thing he has going for him, and for the most part his staff, they are all pretty good recruiters. Bryan McClendon was our best recruiter after Pruitt, but he is not a good WR coach, They had a couple WR back from injuries against us yesterday, but they are a bad offensive team. Even with Eason being awful yesterday we still had 3 backs average over 6 ypc against them. But to his credit, he doesn't act like the lunatic he did on the sideline at UF, maybe he doesn't feel the pressure he felt at UF. But with Clemson being as hot as they are right now, they will struggle recruiting instate kids and will have to depend on getting kids from Georgia, NC and FL, Muschamp might have a few connections from his time in Texas, but I don't think he will get any of their top kids.
I don't agree that winning is easier at a traditional power. Winning at each level gets more difficult imo. You step up the tradition you certainly step up the recruiting, but you also step up the competition, the expectations, the pressure, and the off the field obligations. It pays more because it's more difficult. Look how many winners have been given those opportunities and failed. Also a long list of folks who have won 2/3 of their games at lower levels, stepped to the big time job, won 2/3 of their games there and been fired because that's not good enough.
Maybe he needs to and he won't be springing leaks like this one. To tell you the truth, his face looked like he either headbutted a helmet or someone punched him, Maybe the redness was wiped blood.
From what little I follow about USC, he was about their fourth or fifth option.
My feelings exactly. Historically, SC has been a football clone of UK, i.e., great fan support for uninspired football. But SC somehow managed to get 2 HOF coaches back to back and reverse that trend of mediocrity. However, they now appear to be headed to pre-Holtz football status. I'm sure Muschamp was not their top of the list guy but I can somewhat understand the hire. But I am shocked Muschamp brought in some of his old failed FL staff (OC ???). I have no idea how he rationalized that.
I was jealous of the way SC entered the conference and quickly assumed the place UK has long coveted (i.e., behind FL, TN, GA) but the Muschamp hire appears to give UK another shot at that spot.
Peace
Very true...but at least we hired Stoops as a hot coordinator with no resume of failure. USCjr openly hired their guy after he failed pretty badly at UF and really hasn't had time to show change to make it palatable to hire him again (he was only out of UF 1 year before USC hired him).
I truly don't get why they hired him.
Maybe it shows it isn't as easy to get a "proven winner" head coach as some think.
Which makes the fact our idiot AD could've had 2 even more maddening... (Pirate/Harley boy)
If I could like this a million times. FOR ONCE, we had 2 PROVEN WINNERS wiling to come here. Just pick one and we'll be good. And we pass on both. We're not in a position to do stupid ish like that, which is why MB needs to go. Long story short.
Muschamp can recruit and put together a solid defense, but he needs to get with the times on offense.
Hopefully he doesn't take 3 and half years to figure out that he needs to make some staff, philosophy, and strategy changes.
There will be a lot of movement in the off season once the carousel takes off, plenty of quality staffs and coordinators will be up for grabs. He needs to go after some offensive minds.
Hopefully he doesn't take 3 and half years to figure out that he needs to make some staff, philosophy, and strategy changes.
There will be a lot of movement in the off season once the carousel takes off, plenty of quality staffs and coordinators will be up for grabs. He needs to go after some offensive minds.
Why? I'm not an SC fan, I hope he never figures it out.
Saw a stat on here a few weeks back - Franklin was something like 0-20 vs opponents who ended the season ranked at Vandy. He basically took advantage of a down SECE.
Bobby Johnson was also a pretty decent recruiter and left him some talent to work with from the beginning.
We will have to see at the end of the season but if he has some elite recruits they will be recruited by others. Wins help, losses don't.
Not going to disagree with your points, it just seems like we are the only one that cannot hold on to recruits following a bad season.
Come on, heck Alabama got one stolen last year by GA so it happens to everyone not just us.
Is this a USC Jr. board? At the present time, I'm more concerned about Stoops recruiting and producing a winner then Muskrat's staying and recruiting.
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Well, that's OK. UK had the chance to do the same and has an even better chance this year with 2 very winnable SEC games yet to play.
Without question he has not yet seen the success at PSU that he had at Vandy but I am wondering if PSU will ever return to the heights it once achieved. JMO
Peace
You need to stay up with recruiting, it happens to all of them. But until we put the wins up, it will happen to us more and more.
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