They both cite sources in their podcasts. I enjoy when very smart people have discussions with other intelligent people.
Just citing "sources" is a flawed defense. As I mentioned, in nutrition studies, there are countless "sources" that say whatever you want. Vegan is best? Here's some sources. Grass fed beef is healthy? Here are some sources. Paleo is best? Here are some sources.
Not all sources are created equal. It's far too easy for these talking heads to cherry pick sources that fit their narrative and ignore any studies that contradict what they're promoting.
In a thread where people are literally taking an over prescribed untested drug for unapproved side effects, hunger suppression, we're gonna die on the hill of chemically extracted heavily processed and bleached seed oils are safe and healthy? Come on.
I didn't bring up seed oils. I merely pointed out that your claim is, at best, controversial.
Of course seed oil companies influence the publicity. Have we not learned anything the last 3 years about how this shit works? Just a little bit of money on the line if seed oils get blammed for all the shit they're causing. Scroll down and see who funded this.
Canola oil-based diets have been shown to reduce plasma cholesterol levels in comparison with diets containing higher levels of saturated fatty acids. Consumption of canola oil also influences biological functions that affect various other ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
So, again, you get to pick and choose which studies you believe because of funding? But you believe guys who don't have degrees in the field and haven't published original research but who sell books?
A decent article on the subject, which if you click has verified sources. Or you can just not read it and act like a pompous ass.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/canola#alternatives
"Before researchers can confirm whether canola oil is harmful or healthy, they need to conduct further studies."
Doesn't really seem to support your position that it's well-understood that seed oils are unhealthy.
Also, that very statement is a logical flaw known as law of excluded middle or excluded middle fallacy. It assumes that canola oil is either harmful or healthy, with no in between and no complexity. Nature isn't so simple. There is no food or drink or medication that is entirely harmful or entirely healthy. Water, for example, is essential. Too much is deadly. Is water healthy or harmful? Alcohol lowers risks of certain cardiovascular conditions but increases risks of other health issues, including cancer and liver disease. Is alcohol harmful or healthy?
Rogue's six raw eggs every morning likely has some benefits but also certainly has risks.
Most likely seed oils have some benefits and some risks; and it will turn out that the risks vary from person to person and depend on quantities ingested.
Finally, canola oil is but one of many seed oils out there.
But, if you want to keep frying shit in ultra processed oils... go for it. What a weird argument.
I don't fry shit in anything. I never cook fried foods and I hardly ever eat them.