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Mounjaro/Ozempic weight loss

We need to start a vitamin thread. I'd like to know what supplements everyone is taking. Especially us that are entering the old guy phase.

My wife says I am lucky that I am not wrinkling at all yet. I am greying at the sides and thinning in the crown, but I still look good naked. Better than most, let's say.

My issue is pain. I hurt somewhere new every day. More and more at the gym I feel like it is a sludge just to get my workout done. I don't lift anything heavy anymore. I try to work on maintenance. Lot of low weight high rep stuff.

But pain when there is no way I am ever going to take any kind of pain medication, well that's at least for me a real letdown about how sucky getting old is. I feel like I hit a wall about a year ago where my body said "bam" you're an old dude and this is how it is going to be forever and it is going to suck.

Never did any drugs in my life. Never smoked. Got that going for me. But the pain thing has almost destroyed my outlook. Doctors so far are worthless as they just want to give you drugs. Got me thinking about supplements and vitamins.
Do you ever take extra strength Tylenol/ibuprofen?

There’s all kinds of stuff out there esp with the cbd market ramping up considerably.
 
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Booze hits you in so many ways. Inflammation, empty calories and leads to eating poor foods but the worst is how it affects your sleep. Going dry for a month I know I could peel off 10-12 lbs at my activity level.

My supplements:
Ump Protein
Nano Greens
Psyllium Husk
Creatine
Fish Oil
Magnesium
Immunity Boost Multivitamin
Collagen Powder
Coffee
 
Do you ever take extra strength Tylenol/ibuprofen?

There’s all kinds of stuff out there esp with the cbd market ramping up considerably.
Never take Tylenol/Ibuprofen unless I have a headache.

My daily vitamins/supplements:

VItafusion Men's Cellular Energy, Immune, & Muscle Support (Gummy)
Hair, Skin, and Nails (Gummy)
Vitamin D
Magnesium
Tumeric
Elderberry Honey Tonic
Nitric Oxide (just added)

Edited to add: Fish Oil

I drink 1-2 cups of coffee a day with milk creamer
 
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Daily vitamins I take:

Medications I’m on:

Drink coffee on the weekends and drink alcohol one or two nights a week
 
Morning:
Animal Omega Pack
Multivitamin
Biotin
Tudca+
MCT Oil
B6

Nightly:
Melatonin
ZMA
DIMM
THC Gummies 10mg

Test Cyp & Anastrozole MWF

If you’re having joint pain, take fish oils, maybe COQ10. Don’t get reliant on ibuprofen or NSAIDS especially if you’re a drinker.

If you have to drink, try tequila or Sav Blanc hardly any sugar and not crazy cals.

Gym should be at least 3x/week for 30 minutes plus. And days you don’t go, take a nice long walk to get your heart rate up.

Just get a routine, it helps immensely.
 
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Morning:
Animal Omega Pack
Multivitamin
Biotin
Tudca+
MCT Oil
B6

Nightly:
Melatonin
ZMA
DIMM
THC Gummies 10mg

Test Cyp & Anastrozole MWF

If you’re having joint pain, take fish oils, maybe COQ10. Don’t get reliant on ibuprofen or NSAIDS especially if you’re a drinker.

If you have to drink, try tequila or Sav Blanc hardly any sugar and not crazy cals.

Gym should be at least 3x/week for 30 minutes plus. And days you don’t go, take a nice long walk to get your heart rate up.

Just get a routine, it helps immensely.
I go to the gym 6 days a week and take Sunday off. Alternate legs/upper body days with a 30 minute walk on the treadmill every day. I'm a big dude but I am not trying to get bigger. Too old for that. I just want to keep what I've got from falling apart.
 
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Was talking to my PC physician today and he was pissed about all the fatasses asking for Ozempic. Mainly around the weight loss demand is making it harder for diabetics, who really need it, to get it.

 
Daily:
Zinc
Vitamin D
Multivitamin with Iron.

I go to the gym 8 to 10x/wk. M/T/Th/F go before and after work, then once Saturday and Sunday. Wednesday is my off day. Im no workout expert, but I can’t recommend kettlebell exercises enough. I use 25 and 30 pound kettlebells, so im never throwing around crazy heavy weight, decreasing the chances of me blowing out a knee, shoulder, back, etc. Another benefit is it combines cardio and weights, so best of both worlds. My heart rate routinely gets into the 150s during my workouts.

As for the ozempic and mounjaro, I think insurance companies are pumping the brakes on a lot of these. I am an RN, and have been filling in at a local clinic. In the limited time ive been helping at this clinic there have been multiple phone calls from pharmacies and patients to notify the prescriber that the prescription was denied by insurance. Could be nothing, but I doubt it.
 
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Take with…
Notes to maximize absorption*
Vitamins:
A, D, E, & Ka meal that contains oils or fatsDon’t take vitamin K with large doses of vitamin E.
B-12--Doses of more than 1.5 mcg should be divided and taken at least 6 hours apart.
Ca meal if causing stomach upsetDivide large doses over course of the day
Minerals:
Calcium and magnesiumfood to improve absorption and, for magnesium, to reduce diarrheaDon’t take together in large amounts (hundreds of milligrams). Don’t take more than 500 mg of calcium at once.
Ironfood to reduce stomach upset, but don’t take with tea or coffeeDon’t take with large amounts of other minerals. Getting adequate C may enhance absorption.
Zinc--Don’t take with milk, calcium, or high-fiber foods. If taken as lozenge for colds, allow to dissolve — don’t chew.
Carotenoids:
Beta-carotene (vitamin A), lycopene, zeaxanthin, luteina meal that contains oils or fatsDon’t take with minerals or meals high in calcium or magnesium
*To avoid taking things together, take at least two hours apart.
 
What’s the point you’re making there @Freetaxreturn ? There are no sources I saw with that tweet just BBC saying this.

I was told in the 90s we’d have flying cars and all coastal cities would be underwater by now also.

There’s almost 0% chance that 3+ billion people will be overweight at any point in the near future.

Is this you making yourself feel better? Like “hey look, I’m not the only one making terrible health decisions and lacking self discipline!”

And if half the world is fat, good, better for my business.
 
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What’s the point you’re making there @Freetaxreturn ? There are no sources I saw with that tweet just BBC saying this.

I was told in the 90s we’d have flying cars and all coastal cities would be underwater by now also.

There’s almost 0% chance that 3+ billion people will be overweight at any point in the near future.

Is this you making yourself feel better? Like “hey look, I’m not the only one making terrible health decisions and lacking self discipline!”

And if half the world is fat, good, better for my business.
I could really care less rouge, but better for your business is also better for Mounjaro/Ozempic business 🍺
 
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A healthy sub to coffee creamer and sugar.
 
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I just drink it black like a construction worker but adding MCT Oil is nice in there, puts a little pep in my step but most mornings I just squirt it straight in my mouth with my vitamins and down the hatch.
 
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I like to relax and have a cup of good coffee with a little milk while watching the world go to shit on the news. Coffee is an excellent laxative for me as well. Guaranteed quality poop 20 minutes afterwards.
 
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I think one of the more interesting things about this thread is freetaxreturn slowly morphing from asking a question about his health, to defending big pharma, to brushing off possible side effects of the drug, to now seemingly bragging about how many people are overweight and need this drug and the fact that he’s overweight and needs a drug. Either this thread is poof the OP is a bot that works for Eli Lilly or proof the drug causing psychosis.
 
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I think one of the more interesting things about this thread is freetaxreturn slowly morphing from asking a question about his health, to defending big pharma, to brushing off possible side effects of the drug, to now seemingly bragging about how many people are overweight and need this drug and the fact that he’s overweight and needs a drug. Either this thread is poof the OP is a bot that works for Eli Lilly or proof the drug causing psychosis.
I was thinking the same thing. I was reading his post and trying to figure out why it was posted.

Is he saying in 12 years most everyone will be like him and that’s a good or bad thing? 🤷‍♂️

What I do know is he is very similar to the majority of people that are overweight or obese. When you tell them what they need to actually do to correct their dilemma they don’t want to hear changing diet, working out, counting cals, reducing alcohol, decrease sugar, etc they would much rather hear don’t do anything just take this drug and keep on going, none of this is your fault.
 
I think one of the more interesting things about this thread is freetaxreturn slowly morphing from asking a question about his health, to defending big pharma, to brushing off possible side effects of the drug, to now seemingly bragging about how many people are overweight and need this drug and the fact that he’s overweight and needs a drug. Either this thread is poof the OP is a bot that works for Eli Lilly or proof the drug causing psychosis.
Cmon Ronnie 🤣
 
I mean, yeah the food cooked on in seed oil might not be healthy either. However, might be a little money on the line to keep seed oil above the fray.

Are you suggesting these researchers are biased because of "big seed oil" funding or something?

Regardless, the negative against it and sugar is overwhelming and is not really close.

What are the negatives for seed oils? Please provide sources.
 
I mean there's thousands of links. Where do you want me to start? Obviously frying starches in them is bad. But ultra process is awful as well. How many do you want? Just Google?







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With so much conflicting information out there about seed oils, it’s difficult to know exactly what to do. Some of that is by design. Back to Crisco: For years, Procter & Gamble relied on advertising that claimed processed seed oils were healthier alternatives to saturated animal fats. By the 1990s, though, the health risks of canola oil and its cousins were better understood: Many seed oils also contain a higher number of trans fats, which have a direct link to heart disease.

Of course, switching to a different type of less-processed cooking oil entirely is an option. Olive oil, coconut oil, and avocado oil are all good options for sautéing vegetables or grilling fish or meat.

But there's no need to get bogged down in the scientific weeds. The most important takeaway from the conversation around seed oils is to keep in mind that they’re commonly found in many processed foods, including some obviously unhealthy items like cookies, candy bars, and Twinkies—but also some less obvious culprits like pre-made hummus and salad dressing. So when working on what you eat, make cutting out processed foods your foundation, build a diet rich in a variety of whole foods and various types of fats, and, if you're concerned, reach for less-refined alternatives like olive oil or clarified butter.
 
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No disrespect, but I was totally expecting you to come back with podcasts and/or twitter links.

Quality of sources matters.

Max Lugavere has a degree in film and psychology.

Huberman has a PhD in neuroscience.

They have podcasts and books.

My sources are professors of nutrition at Harvard, Univ. of Texas, and George Washington School of Medicine. They study nutrition for a living and write actual scientific journal articles in nutrition.

I'll take my sources over yours.

Nutritional studies are extremely difficult to do well. There is lots of conflicting data, and anybody can cherry pick studies to show whatever they want. But not all studies are created equal or are equally strong in their methodology. That's why I trust actual experts in the field over people with podcasts.

Don't fall for propaganda, indeed.
 
They both cite sources in their podcasts. I enjoy when very smart people have discussions with other intelligent people.

In a thread where people are literally taking an over prescribed untested drug for unapproved side effects, hunger suppression, we're gonna die on the hill of chemically extracted heavily processed and bleached seed oils are safe and healthy? Come on.

Of course seed oil companies influence the publicity. Have we not learned anything the last 3 years about how this shit works? Just a little bit of money on the line if seed oils get blammed for all the shit they're causing. Scroll down and see who funded this.

A decent article on the subject, which if you click has verified sources. Or you can just not read it and act like a pompous ass. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/canola#alternatives

But, if you want to keep frying shit in ultra processed oils... go for it. What a weird argument.
 
Anth is correct. I know it’s not what people want to hear because it’s “harder” to avoid them because they’re in everything. But anything that’s in everything means it’s a cheap filler.

If you want to rely on the same scientists that told you that cereal is better than ground beef or chicken have at it. Or the ones that said if you’re not vaxxed you’re killing people and will die of Covid, all yours.

I rely on myself and scientists that study health without being paid by the govt and are actually trying to make people better.
 
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They both cite sources in their podcasts. I enjoy when very smart people have discussions with other intelligent people.

Just citing "sources" is a flawed defense. As I mentioned, in nutrition studies, there are countless "sources" that say whatever you want. Vegan is best? Here's some sources. Grass fed beef is healthy? Here are some sources. Paleo is best? Here are some sources.

Not all sources are created equal. It's far too easy for these talking heads to cherry pick sources that fit their narrative and ignore any studies that contradict what they're promoting.

In a thread where people are literally taking an over prescribed untested drug for unapproved side effects, hunger suppression, we're gonna die on the hill of chemically extracted heavily processed and bleached seed oils are safe and healthy? Come on.

I didn't bring up seed oils. I merely pointed out that your claim is, at best, controversial.

Of course seed oil companies influence the publicity. Have we not learned anything the last 3 years about how this shit works? Just a little bit of money on the line if seed oils get blammed for all the shit they're causing. Scroll down and see who funded this.

So, again, you get to pick and choose which studies you believe because of funding? But you believe guys who don't have degrees in the field and haven't published original research but who sell books?

A decent article on the subject, which if you click has verified sources. Or you can just not read it and act like a pompous ass. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/canola#alternatives

"Before researchers can confirm whether canola oil is harmful or healthy, they need to conduct further studies."

Doesn't really seem to support your position that it's well-understood that seed oils are unhealthy.

Also, that very statement is a logical flaw known as law of excluded middle or excluded middle fallacy. It assumes that canola oil is either harmful or healthy, with no in between and no complexity. Nature isn't so simple. There is no food or drink or medication that is entirely harmful or entirely healthy. Water, for example, is essential. Too much is deadly. Is water healthy or harmful? Alcohol lowers risks of certain cardiovascular conditions but increases risks of other health issues, including cancer and liver disease. Is alcohol harmful or healthy?
Rogue's six raw eggs every morning likely has some benefits but also certainly has risks.

Most likely seed oils have some benefits and some risks; and it will turn out that the risks vary from person to person and depend on quantities ingested.

Finally, canola oil is but one of many seed oils out there.

But, if you want to keep frying shit in ultra processed oils... go for it. What a weird argument.

I don't fry shit in anything. I never cook fried foods and I hardly ever eat them.
 
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Sugars, fried foods, and over processed junk. Those are the issues. Will that make your weird nitpicking stop?

In a thread full of nitpicking, in a board known for nitpicking and ridiculous arguments, the only reason you consider my nitpicking "weird" is because it targeted you.
 
My wife and I went to the gym (I hate gym "twinning" but it was an exception) then had a nice dinner then went to see "Cocaine Bear" for some light pointless entertainment when sure enough (seating is assigned) a huge fat girl plops down in the seat next to me then claims the common armrest by aggressively putting a giant 500 ounce soft drink in it. I retaliated by putting my arm all the way down the armrest but then a waft of her stench hit me. Like cheap bubble bath poured over old piss.

If you want to be fat then knock yourself out but please don't allow the fat collateral to impose on other people. Be aware of your grossness and confine it to the perimeter of your ample mass. Pay special attention to the ass area when showing or being hosed down like a farm animal.

Thanks.
 
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