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Mounjaro/Ozempic weight loss

I've been on it for about 2 months now. Was working like a charm for the first 6 doses. Was down 15 pounds.

Then my dumbass insurance and pharmacy couldn't get their shit together and I was without it for a week. Pharmacy kept saying a prior auth was needed. Insurance kept saying it was already submitted and approved. Neither one would ****ing talk to each other. Had to get my doctor to call over and get it fixed. Then the pharmacy had to order it.

Effects wore off entirely in that one week without it. Been back on it for two weeks and it just hasn't been the same. I notice maybe the effects very slightly, but nothing to the point where it would be effective. Now it's like I'm just wasting my time injecting this stuff. Doctor told me to bump up the dosage this week so maybe that will get me back on track.
 
I've been on it for about 2 months now. Was working like a charm for the first 6 doses. Then my dumbass insurance and pharmacy couldn't get their shit together and I was without it for a week. Effects wore off entirely. Been back on it for two weeks and it just hasn't been the same. I was losing a ton of weight and felt fuller quicker and for much longer than normal. Now it's like I'm just wasting my time injecting this stuff.
Let me suggest a little thing called cocaine. You'll be skinny, broke, and possibly divorced and/or incarcerated in no time!
 
Sir Charles is a fan of the diabetes/weight loss medications.

Ozempic was gradually decreasing my sugar. When I went to pickup my last prescription refill, my montly supply increased from $200 to $600 because of the medicare “donut hole”. I couldn’t afford it. Doubling my exercise from 150 minutes a week to 300 minutes a week. Continuing low carb and low sugar diet.
 
Down to 178-180. And doing nothing more than cutting off(mostly) soda and fast food.

Too easy if you're not in a hurry. Still eating processed shit(food).

Cut off the shit and I could really lose some weight, but I'm losing it in a clip where I'm happy.

And I'm not starving myself and killing my organs to boot.
 
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^Great way to approach it. Make incremental but sustainable changes. Once you hit a plateau then add/reduce something else until you're at an ideal weight and can focus on maintaining.

Taken me 25 years to realize starving yourself on a diet is about as counter-intuitive as you can get. Quick way to lose weight but you're losing the wrong weight and certainly going to put it all back on. I've roller-coastered b/w 25-30 lbs for a good 15 years. Other than a few months here or there I've worked out several times a week since college but I put weight on in a blink, so it's been hard to figure out a happy medium. The last 2 years I've got it pretty dialed in. Since Jan 1 I've cut 4% BF and lost about 10LBS(on the scale) while increasing muscle mass. Only time I'm ever hungry is after a big morning leg workout. You just have to eat the right stuff.

If you're addicted to soda I'd suggest Topo Chico or a different sparkling water. F*ck fast food. If I have to eat on the road I get 3 orders of CFA grilled nuggets.
 
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^Great way to approach it. Make incremental but sustainable changes. Once you hit a plateau then add/reduce something else until you're at an ideal weight and can focus on maintaining.

Taken me 25 years to realize starving yourself on a diet is about as counter-intuitive as you can get. Quick way to lose weight but you're losing the wrong weight and certainly going to put it all back on. I've roller-coastered b/w 25-30 lbs for a good 15 years. Other than a few months here or there I've worked out several times a week since college but I put weight on in a blink, so it's been hard to figure out a happy medium. The last 2 years I've got it pretty dialed in. I've cut 4% BF and lost about 10LBS(on the scale) while increasing muscle mass since Jan 1. Only time I'm ever hungry is after a big morning leg workout. You just have to eat the right stuff.

If you're addicted to soda I'd suggest Topo Chico or a different sparkling water. F*ck fast food. If I have to eat on the road I get 3 orders of CFA grilled nuggets.
Ya my doctors first approach was cut out soda which I already do anyways (black coffee/water only) and second approach was limit take-out which is obvious but be more aware of your intake if you do. I think of all the fast food out there chick fil a has the best/healthiest options.
 
^Great way to approach it. Make incremental but sustainable changes. Once you hit a plateau then add/reduce something else until you're at an ideal weight and can focus on maintaining.

Taken me 25 years to realize starving yourself on a diet is about as counter-intuitive as you can get. Quick way to lose weight but you're losing the wrong weight and certainly going to put it all back on. I've roller-coastered b/w 25-30 lbs for a good 15 years. Other than a few months here or there I've worked out several times a week since college but I put weight on in a blink, so it's been hard to figure out a happy medium. The last 2 years I've got it pretty dialed in. Since Jan 1 I've cut 4% BF and lost about 10LBS(on the scale) while increasing muscle mass. Only time I'm ever hungry is after a big morning leg workout. You just have to eat the right stuff.

If you're addicted to soda I'd suggest Topo Chico or a different sparkling water. F*ck fast food. If I have to eat on the road I get 3 orders of CFA grilled nuggets.

Not addicted to soda by any stretch. I mainly only drink it when I drink too much the night before. Occasionally, but not often. It's mainly Mountain Dew for morning caffeine when my stomach won't accept coffee. I went from 3-4 2 liters a week to maybe 1 a month.

My next step is to cut out some processed shit slowly and eat some healthier foods. Not at once, tho.

My colostomy reversal has left me somewhat helpless on some things. A hard 25 pound no-lifting limit has limited me in a lot of ways.

I'll eat fast food maybe 3 or 4 times a month. Half the time, it's grilled chicken or a salad. I do like a burger sometimes. The rest of my road meals are a bologna and cheese sammich, a small handful of chips and a red hot.
I ****ing love red hots.

A few bottles of water, of course.
 
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You can do PLENTY of lifting with <25lbs. Be surprised how much difference even 20-30 minutes per day will change things. Resistance training is just as important as improving your diet.

If you do eat fast food, then just make sure to plug it in the calorie counter and see what you have left for the day. Just don't compound it with 3, 4, 5 bad meals in a row. Take your poison, enjoy it, then bounce back on.

For shaking off the dust after a couple too many, I've been starting with a 1/2 cup of OJ(I know a lot of people hate juice) and athletic greens(or nano greens). Large glass of water and I'm ready for coffee in about 45 minutes. I don't crave Coke anymore. There's also some caffeinated seltzer waters out there that may be worth exploring.


Good luck. Keep chipping away.
 
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Something I’ve noticed: I can’t drop weight with cardio alone. Not without a major diet change. I can run up to 50-60 miles a week and only maintain weight.

To drop lbs, I need hiit/weights. When I add that into the mix it’s a huge change.
 
I'll walk around the the block a few times a day. Unless the weather is shitty, then I'll just pace around my apartment. Resistance bands could be a thing again.
 
Something I’ve noticed: I can’t drop weight with cardio alone. Not without a major diet change. I can run up to 50-60 miles a week and only maintain weight.

To drop lbs, I need hiit/weights. When I add that into the mix it’s a huge change.
Cardio, especially extreme, is actually terrible at burning fat. I believe it's actually encourages your body to preserve fat stores. Building muscle does the opposite.

I'd say with your activity level you should be getting 220+ grams of protein per day. Definitely on creatine.
 
I've learned that an hour or more on a workout, you need some calories. That or 3 or hours without eating. Your body will start to burn muscle instead of fat.

I actually went from 160 to 173 pre-covid just working out with resistance bands. You might think the weight gain was bad, but I actually lost a couple inches off my waist. That was just with resistance bands. Sadly, covid took out my ability to go to a gym.
 
I lost 85 pounds and have kept it off.
1) Intermittent fasting of only 2 meals a day, both within a 6-hour period. 9-3 or 10-4, recommended.
2) Limiting carbohydrates, especially junk food like potato chips.
3) Walk 10,000 steps a day.
It definitely works and gets easier, especially for anyone who does not drink alcohol.
GOOD LUCK with it.

TIP: If you can add moderate weight-lifting for tone, three days a week, all the better !!!
 
I lost 85 pounds and have kept it off.
1) Intermittent fasting of only 2 meals a day, both within a 6-hour period. 9-3 or 10-4, recommended.
2) Limiting carbohydrates, especially junk food like potato chips.
3) Walk 10,000 steps a day.
It definitely works and gets easier, especially for anyone who does not drink alcohol.
GOOD LUCK with it.

TIP: If you can add moderate weight-lifting for tone, three days a week, all the better !!!
I don’t really understand the intermittent fasting - how do you not get hungry?
 
I don’t really understand the intermittent fasting - how do you not get hungry?

I am quite a bit overweight. Started a new diet / lifestyle change a month or so ago.

Intermittent fasting has been a game changer for me. Though, I do it a bit differently. I do 12-14hr cycles. Dinner done by no later than 8pm, no food again until 10am the next morning. Sometimes I'll just skip breakfast and eat lunch at noon. Most of that time is sleeping and accomplishes the same goal - to compel your body to tap into excess fat storage for energy rather than food in your stomach. 12 hours is kinda the minimum to achieve that. This holds true even in your sleep.

I am down about 20 pounds thus far and haven't felt as good as I do now in quite some time...and so far it's a system that works for me because I am always on the go.

For meals, as much protein as possible and keep carbs at a minimum. I tend to stick to about 1200-1600 calories a day but that's different depending on your current weight.

One cheat meal / indulgence per week.

Shoot for 10K steps per day or at least a period of time where my heart rate gets elevated. I don't have time at this point to really take advantage of a gym so I do what I can at home or at the office.

Cut out most snacking, mainly just stick with 2-3 meals per day. Serving of protein peanut butter powder, a hardboiled egg, or fruit if I ever do snack.

I stopped drinking calories completely. Mostly just water and black coffee for me, occasionally a sugar-free energy drink or sugar free tea/juice but rarely.

So far so good for me - the biggest pain in the ass has been the cost of a healthy diet. It's crazy how much cheaper it is to eat like complete and utter trash.

Another thing I was told by my doctor recently (for fellow men also on weight loss journeys) - Testosterone levels are historically low these days due to crap in processed foods and paragons/chemicals in body care products like body washes and shampoo etc. Men need healthy T to burn fat efficiently. I started some natural T boosting supplements around the same time I started this new diet. Too early to do any sort of testing there but something to keep in mind I suppose.
 
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Something I’ve noticed: I can’t drop weight with cardio alone. Not without a major diet change. I can run up to 50-60 miles a week and only maintain weight.

To drop lbs, I need hiit/weights. When I add that into the mix it’s a huge change.
Weights are huge. I never lifted any weights in my life. Being over 50, I started to lose what muscle I did have so I decided to dust off these 20 lb dumbells I've had forever. HUGE difference. I only do 3 sets of 12-15 reps of curls and military presses and add in a few sets to get me to 100 pushups with those perfect pushups. I try to do it 3 times a week and it's helped more with weight loss than I ever thought it would. I'll be bumping up to 25 or even 30 lbers soon but have to buy them. Have you seen the cost of weights lately? YIKES!
 
So the last I read they’re saying without resistance training you basically lose equal parts muscle, fat and a lot of bone density with these drugs so please train with it a little.

As for long workouts burning muscle, that’s why you bring snacks to the gym, banana, rx bar, protein shake, Tupperware of chicken. I usually have all those with me and will stop and snack during workouts.

As far as vigorous cardio goes to burn fat, the newest studies say walking on an incline is a more efficient way to burn fat than running so I do that either after my training or preferably, come back later that day/night to do it.

I’ma firm believer in getting your HR twice a day even if the second time is just 20-25 minutes. Keeps your metabolism red lining longer.
 
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So the last I read they’re saying without resistance training you basically lose equal parts muscle, fat and a lot of none with these drugs so please train with it a little.
I assume you meant bone density.

I’m still doing this without the weight loss drugs because of the costs. Strength training and cardio everyday. Weight loss is slowing, but still losing.
 
Anyone tried berberine?
"Posts mentioning berberine, dubbed “nature’s Ozempic,” have racked up millions of views on the social network TikTok, where some people claim it can help with weight loss, as well as other ailments.

Berberine, a bright-yellow compound, can be extracted from the stem, roots or bark of a variety of plant species. Plants that produce berberine have been used for thousands of years in traditional medicine practiced in China, India and the Middle East—as a salve for stings and bites, to heal wounds and to treat disorders including diabetes, infection and jaundice.

In the U.S., it is available in the form of a pill or powder from a range of manufacturers, though like other supplements, it isn’t regulated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

Small studies involving people and research in rodents have found that berberine can decrease blood glucose and cholesterol, and improve resistance to insulin. Researchers are exploring its effects on the nervous system and neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer’s, as well as cancer biology.

Still, researchers warn that studies linking the supplement to weight loss are limited, and that other lifestyle changes such as exercise and healthier eating habits might be contributing to shifts. The supplement does have mild side effects including stomach pains, diarrhea and constipation, but it is harmless for most people, according to doctors."

"In Cleveland, some of Dr. Elizabeth Bradley’s patients who are overweight or obese have experienced moderate weight loss of 5 to 10 pounds over a period of a few months.

“I’m pleasantly surprised at the impact,” said Bradley, medical director at the Cleveland Clinic’s Center for Functional Medicine, about the weight loss in her patients, and the drop in cholesterol and blood glucose. She noted that people taking the supplement might also be making other changes to their lifestyle, which could contribute to the changes.

Bradley first began recommending berberine about six years ago as an antimicrobial supplement for patients who had an imbalance in the population of bacteria in their gut. Later she began recommending the supplement for women with polycystic ovary syndrome, a condition that is associated with hormonal imbalance, obesity and infertility. Bradley said that the supplement improves insulin resistance associated with the condition, where cells decrease how well they respond to insulin.

Recently, after doing more research, she began using it for glucose, cholesterol and weight concerns, usually recommending 500 milligrams three times a day or with meals. “I use it judiciously and follow them closely,” she said. People who are breast-feeding or pregnant should avoid the supplement, she added.

It is a very mild agent, according to Lisa Kroon, a diabetes specialist and professor at the University of California San Francisco School of Pharmacy. “It isn’t going to be the quick fix that people are pursuing in terms of weight loss,” she said. Kroon said the so-called placebo effect might be at play, where, “If you believe it is going to help you lose weight, maybe it does.”"

"Berberine’s potential weight-loss effects might be triggered in a similar way to the diabetes drug metformin, said Jim Backes, a clinical pharmacist at the Atherosclerosis and LDL-Apheresis Center at the University of Kansas Medical Center. That drug is associated with modest weight loss because it improves how cells use insulin. Excess insulin in the blood can sometimes make people hungrier, and decreasing insulin levels can reduce that craving, Backes said. But as far as berberine’s effect on weight loss alone, “The evidence is still weak,” he said.

Evidence about berberine’s health effects from small studies in Asia and Europe have led Backes and his colleagues to test the compound in a U.S. group of patients who have or are at risk of developing metabolic syndrome, a condition characterized by high glucose levels, high blood pressure, high cholesterol and a wide waistline. This pilot study of about two dozen people will closely watch their glucose and cholesterol, and track weight loss and waist circumference, he said.

Backes warned that the quality of berberine supplements varies widely among brands. Of 15 different berberine products sold in the U.S., Backes and his colleagues found that only six of those products contained at least 90% berberine, they reported in the Journal of Dietary Supplements in 2017.

“With some products, you might get 100%, berberine, you might get 33%, berberine. But then, what’s the other 67%? We don’t always know,” he said. “I would say be very careful.”

 
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So the last I read they’re saying without resistance training you basically lose equal parts muscle, fat and a lot of none with these drugs so please train with it a little.

As for long workouts burning muscle, that’s why you bring snacks to the gym, banana, rx bar, protein shake, Tupperware of chicken. I usually have all those with me and will stop and snack during workouts.

As far as vigorous cardio goes to burn fat, the newest studies say walking on an incline is a more efficient way to burn fat so I do that either after my training or preferably, come back later that day/night to do it.

I’ma firm believer in getting your HR twice a day even if the second time is just 20-25 minutes. Keeps your metabolism red lining longer.
Nothing like a little salmonella to lose weight!
 
Nothing like a little salmonella to lose weight!
Shit doggy, I drink 6 raw eggs every morning for the last 3-4 years. Don’t be a pussboi and listen to those wild ol wives tails. Guess you’re scared of a little undercooked beef too eh?

And if you’re talking about chicken sitting out for a few hours Jesus man come on. I leave leftovers or pizza or whatever out overnight and eat it the next morning.

Y’all Mfers scared of everything and you’ve been trained if it’s not refrigerated immediately you’ll die! Grow up. How do you think people made it this far without fridges? You think they were eating fresh every day?

I look at it like you’re kind of training your body. A little bit of old stuff makes your body more resistant to a lot of it if it happens. Like people that wash hands and sanitize all the time, bet money they get sick more often than I do.
 
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Meh, gained half a pound while losing 1/8 off my waist. Finally started to do leg lifts. My legs were laughing, my gut was not. The first sign of discomfort is a full stop. Of course, this wasn't a leg exercise, this was a core exercise.

Rehab sucks.
 
Shit doggy, I drink 6 raw eggs every morning for the last 3-4 years. Don’t be a pussboi and listen to those wild ol wives tails. Guess you’re scared of a little undercooked beef too eh?

And if you’re talking about chicken sitting out for a few hours Jesus man come on. I leave leftovers or pizza or whatever out overnight and eat it the next morning.

Y’all Mfers scared of everything and you’ve been trained if it’s not refrigerated immediately you’ll die! Grow up. How do you think people made it this far without fridges? You think they were eating fresh every day?

I look at it like you’re kind of training your body. A little bit of old stuff makes your body more resistant to a lot of it if it happens. Like people that wash hands and sanitize all the time, bet money they get sick more often than I do.

Exactly.

See the Blue Bell fiasco.

Or the mask bs.

Y’all better start training your immune systems, bruh.
 
Down 26 lbs since Feb. 13th....no drugs. Sensible/responsible eating and the gym. Weight down, strength up. It isn't rocket science.
 
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Just reading an article in my downtime, about how Ozempic is already "out" as a weight loss drug, and new similar "cousin" drugs are taking it's place. Pretty wild. Kind of feels like how big the Viagra finding was when it came out.

I still prefer putting in some form of exercise and diet to get in shape and healthy, and I don't think drugs like Ozempic should allow people to then just eat crap and processed foods, as those will create other health concerns.. But it's pretty interesting to see. I can't say I blame someone for wanting to give this a try.
 
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I had posted earlier if you don’t lift while taking it you will lose almost equal parts fat, muscle and bone density. If you want to be brittle and skinny fat go that route.
 
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Good point. Won't help you gain muscle. You'll just look like bones with saggy skin, and that looks just as bad being fat.
 
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