Meyer Now Predicts Killeya-Jones, Alkins, Langford, Simmons, Bridges
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More disturbing to me is someone like yourself that believes Jerry Meyer knows what he's talking about involving a Junior class. I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Jerry changes his pick dozens of times leading up to the day a player chooses his destination. Jerry Meyer is good at predicting a kids destination a day or 2 outside of the decision date. Some of you act like its groundbreaking, as if he had the pick locked in for months.
the crystal ball is just a gimmick to get people to join the site. so of course it flips all the time....to get clicks and interest. but to suggest that a common fan who has no connection to anything basketball related has the same knowledge and information to someone that is in and around the sport everyday....is the height of ignorance and runaway ego. but that is par for the course for uk fans. they watch basketball on tv 30 times a year, declare themselves as experts and know as much as guys who do this stuff EVERYDAY.
I like all our players, but there is no real reason to suspect Lee will be drafted after next season. Lee has no offensive game whatsoever, and shoots less than 35% from the free throw line. Lots of our fans believe Lee just needs more playing time, but it is more complicated than that. Lee's limitations could be hidden this season by playing him 11 minutes a game. He looks good in spot duty because he has long arms and incredible hops. But Lee has absolutely no scoring skills, and he is nowhere near ready for the NBA physically in terms of strength. Maybe he will improve on an accelerated curve. I sure hope so. But I think Lee is a 4 year player. Anyway, we can't say for sure that there are only very few quality bigs in the next class. It may look that way now, but late bloomers emerge every year. Nerlens Noel reclassified, and was not on our recruiting radar until late. WCS was a football player. Anthony Davis grew from 6-4 to 6-9 in 1 year. Calipari stole Labissiere out of Memphis when no 1 thought UK was in on him. Where did he get Kanter and Wynyard? I am confident Calipari will find bigs when he needs them.
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I never proclaimed to know anything besides the simple fact that Jerry Meyer's crystal ball changes like wind. Jerry has contacts, inside info, whatever. But it's worthless to pay attention to his crystal ball up until a couple days before said players decision date. If he's doing it for hits, he's just losing his own credibility. Hell, I could choose 20 different schools for a player, and at some point I was right. It doesn't make me an "insider."
You are so wrong about Lee that isnt worth much conversation. ..his offensive game will fly right bt WCS provided Lee gets the rope Willie got...Lee needs to be sfforded luxery Willie was of taking possessions and games off..Lee can play just needs to be allowed to play without looking over his shoulder...same for Willis
If you follow the Crystal Ball much, you'll see that early in the process there are a lot of picks that are made 1) after a kid is officially offered by a school and 2) after a kid makes an OV to a school.
That's basically just the prognosticators playing the odds and hoping they're right if the recruit decides to pull the trigger right away. A month later when the kid visits a different school, they'll change their pick. Those picks mean nothing, and they tend to skew the process.
A year ago, UK didn't lead for anyone in 2016, but a year later and we've put out some offers now we lead for 5-6 guys.
That's basically just the prognosticators playing the odds and hoping they're right if the recruit decides to pull the trigger right away. A month later when the kid visits a different school, they'll change their pick. Those picks mean nothing, and they tend to skew the process.
A year ago, UK didn't lead for anyone in 2016, but a year later and we've put out some offers now we lead for 5-6 guys.
i wont be disappointed in Cal or the team or the players we will put on the court. We will put a good team out every year because Cal is incredible and will always have us in position. However the same people who made fun of UL and other fan bases for saying Siva>Wall Siva>Knight Siva>Teague are now themselves saying basically the same thing when you say Ulis>(fill in the blank top flight PG) or Lee> or pointing out Cal has pension for finding diamonds in the rough then mentioning Booker, Booker was McD's and Jordan All-American top 30 5 star player by almost every service that isn't diamond in the rough. Look I love Tyler Ulis, I mean love the kid, but his top end as senior is not what Smith Jr. is now and trust me I get we aren't getting him there is a reason Cal didn't recruit him it's because pulling him out the state of North Carolina and his connections to USA basketball with coach K could almost not be overcome I get that. But yearly we have buttered our bread by getting 1-2 ultra elite players to pair with our secondary guys. Who by the way are still elite. There just hasn't been a team win a title that way. You win with solid 4 year guys all the way around who can gel and for a season play better than a team that is maybe more talented but not as cohesive or just flat out have the most talented 7 guy roster. With Cal we will never be the 4 year team so not getting the Wall, Cousins, Knight, Davis, MKG, Noel, Randle, Towns, type will hurt us. Those are just facts.
LOL! Actually, I am right. Lee has no jump shot, shoots less than 35% from the free throw line, gets pushed and shoved around on the low block. He jumps like an NBA player, and has improved as a defender. But he is limited. These things are not really debatable when you watch him play. Lee's limitations were easily hidden when he played 11 minutes a game on a deep team. If he improves with more experience and playing time, that will be terrific since most players actually do improve with more experience and playing time. But Lee has a long way to go before he could make an NBA roster. I hope he makes it, but that is a subject for another thread.
So you are saying that if our team in 2016-17 is:
Starters
G Ulis
G Simmons
G Langford
F Bridges or Isaac
F Lee
Bench
G Alkins
G Mulder
G Matthews
G Hawkins
F Wynyard
F Killya-Jones
F Willis
We don't have a shot at a title in 2017?
Just go ahead and call that season off and mail the title to Durham then.
2018 is ours, though! Can't break the chain... 58, 78, 98, 18.
That is the way I see it. This day and time pretty much everything about every recruit eventually gets out in the media and we all read about it. we have a wealth of info on all the recruits, ourselves. Unless Meyer has inside info from the recruits or their parents, they are going on all the stuff we eventually read about ourselves.
I lost all interest in this post once I seen "Jumps like an NBA player", as if you assumed that all NBA players have like a 40" vertical.
Fact is, they do not, which is why he's being considered as a first round pick. He has superior athleticism to many NBA players. Defense and rebounding is his calling card. He rebounds with athleticism, and length. He gets put-backs and lobs. I also think that his offense will improve, as well as free throw shooting. He's going to be a fine college player, which is what matters.
I love the classes he's brought in. Say whatever man, but I mean when your the best you expect the best right? Not just 2 or 3 top 20 players. In 16 I want, and we NEED a class similar to the Randle, Harrisons, Young, Dakari, and Lee class. Or the Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe, Orton class. And if we get Murray this years class will be superb. But after next year we wont be having guys like Ulis, Poy, and Lee coming back, so we'll need to hit big in that class. 5-6 top 20 players IS NOT unreasonable when your UK. And like I said we expect the best, because we are the best. A good recruiting class to most teams is not a good one for us. Most teams would think getting 2 players ranked in the 20's and 1 ranked in the 30's is a great class. Not at UK its not.
Bledsoe and Orton were fringe top 25 recruits.
Don't act like they were top 10 guys.
Simmons- top 10 player.
Bridges- top 10 player.
Langford- top 15 player.
Alkins- top 20 player.
That's four guys in the top 20.
Plus Killya-Jones is rising in the rankings. He might be there before all is said and done.
Wynyard will likely rise up the rankings as well.
I think Ulis comes back and maybe Lee.
With those two back we have six top 25 guys. That's good enough, IMHO.
Bridges- top 10 player.
Langford- top 15 player.
Alkins- top 20 player.
That's four guys in the top 20.
Plus Killya-Jones is rising in the rankings. He might be there before all is said and done.
Wynyard will likely rise up the rankings as well.
I think Ulis comes back and maybe Lee.
With those two back we have six top 25 guys. That's good enough, IMHO.
Maybe that class is better than I thought. I hadn't checked the rankings lately but I thought only Simmons and Langford were ranked top 15.
Depending on where you look Bridges is usually top 15 and I have seen him as 7.
Alkins is usually around 20, I think.
With Lee back and Wynyard coming in, Killya-Jones would probably be enough. Bridges(6'6, 220) or Isaac(6'9, 190) can play a stretch 4 for us and we can go small quite a bit. That's four guys to rotate at the 4 and 5 spots.
Not many great big men in this class anyway, so I am not sure Cal would want to waste scholarships on a couple of 3-4 year guys that take up scholarships unless he knows they can play for him.
And big SFs playing the 4 spot seems to be the trend lately.
Simmons, Langford, and Bridges would give us a top 2 or 3 class by themselves. There is no shame in landing those guys above guys like Giles, Tatum, or Monk. It's unfortunate that a lot of these guys who are the best in the class are either from NC or have been fans of Duke/UNC all their lives. Giles, if he don't go to Wake, will be a dookie. Tatum may surprise everyone and go to St. Louis, but I think he's a dookie too. It's just the way it is. Dook is on a recruiting high right now (the same high we were enjoying for the last 6 seasons before this last class), but K is 68 and is probably coaching his last 2 or 3 teams in Durham, and that will likely start the recruiting decline for them.
He probably would be in 2015. This class is so guard/wing heavy, he doesn't get the same hype as some of the other guys.
So much Duke paranoia.
You should just plan to skip the 16-17 season, since Duke is guaranteed to win it that year.
The favorites always win it every year anyway. College basketball is so predictable.
So much Duke paranoia.
You should just plan to skip the 16-17 season, since Duke is guaranteed to win it that year.
The favorites always win it every year anyway. College basketball is so predictable.
What the hell are you talking about?!?!? No dook paranoia here. I was simply replying to an above poster who felt that Coach Cal would be taking a step back by landing guys like SImmons, Langford, and Bridges and should be putting all of his eggs in the Giles/Tatum/Monk basket. I am just fine with landing Simmons, Langford, and Bridges over those other guys. They are just as talented and will be just as successful in Cal's system, and I was also addressing the people who are getting so bent out of shape about all of the top kids wanting to go to dook. I was saying that they should not worry so much since he's not going to be around much longer anyway, which is what I was stating in my post which you OBVIOUSLY missed.
If we can't win it all with the talent we had last year and in 2010, then that class definitely isn't good enough. We need to hope 2-3 guys stick around that aren't expected to.
Guy's, we have yet another UL fan trying and failing miserably to pose as a UK fan. Just go look up his previous posts. We beat their brains in year in and year out, yet they wanna come over here, pose under UK username's, and take little subtle sarcastic shots at their Daddy. It reminds me of a gnat on an elephant's a$$. It's taking obsession to a whole new level.
Doesn't matter where he is ranked. He is STUD. He played against Charles Matthews last season in a high school game and Matthews, a tough defender, couldn't stop him.
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