Memphis pulls the plug on honoring Cal...

[CatFanInTheBathtub]

I'm having deja vu. I swear I read all these posts in another thread.

Except for the "pitino won us two championships" guy and his ironic mention of the word "hate". Seeing as how mistaking how many titles RP actually won is damn near impossible for any real UK fan...I can only assume that we have a true Tubby hater on our hands.

 

[tank2009]

Pitino won us his championship and for all intents and purpose won the next one that tubby gets credit for....so thats why i said he won us 2 because basically he did and would have won more had he stayed.

We should show more repect than we do for pitino..time to let it go.....or at least dont bust memphis if u r whining about pitino leaving....

I can only imagine if uk was gonna honor pitino for anything.

 

[jrpross]

correct, except Pitino didn't leave UK for Louisville, he left for Boston, a whole notha motha. The situations couldn't be more different and the only people who cant figure this out are agenda driven or just, well, dumb. They aren't thinking about it correctly at least.

I understand, somewhat, the distaste for Cal, though I don't agree with it. But to say it's the same for pitino is wrong. If Cal had left Memphis for UK, then left UK after 3 years and went to Tennessee, scheduled a yearly game against Memphis, and constantly made backhanded comments to the press about Pastner, then it would be more accurate. And to have an outcry like they did when they're about to honor him is totally classless.

 

[CatFanInTheBathtub]

Pitino won us his championship and for all intents and purpose won the next one that tubby gets credit for....so thats why i said he won us 2 because basically he did and would have won more had he stayed.

We should show more repect than we do for pitino..time to let it go.....or at least dont bust memphis if u r whining about pitino leaving....

I can only imagine if uk was gonna honor pitino for anything.

For all intents and purposes Rick won the '98 title that Tubby gets credit for ? Interesting....Like I said it is obvious that you hate Tubby, so you're probably the last person who should be lecturing anyone about hating on somebody else.

 

[brianpoe]

Umm. how many? Pitino only won one here, einstein.

And I'm sorry if you don't understand the vast difference between Pitino going to our in-state most hated rival, and Cal leaving a glorified mid-major program to take over what is the highest paying and perhaps most prestigious job in all of college basketball. Very different situations.

I agree there is a difference there.

The guy did take a job at our rival, but I don't get why so many fans were so hurt by that.

Ours was not open, he did not shun us. And it was obviously the best choice, as he has won a title and is one of the highest paid coaches.

I cannot see myself disowning him just for taking the job after all he did for UK.

However, he has been classless with remarks towards us and he has tried to pull some stunts with the Bledsoe deal and who knows what else.

If he had shown class and respect to UK, there would be no reason for me not to honor him. But he hasn't, and even though i think we will bring him back someday, it will be much longer because of his actions against UK and some of those personal mistakes he has made.

 

[.S&C.]

I agree there is a difference there.

The guy did take a job at our rival, but I don't get why so many fans were so hurt by that.

Ours was not open, he did not shun us. And it was obviously the best choice, as he has won a title and is one of the highest paid coaches.

I cannot see myself disowning him just for taking the job after all he did for UK.

However, he has been classless with remarks towards us and he has tried to pull some stunts with the Bledsoe deal and who knows what else.

If he had shown class and respect to UK, there would be no reason for me not to honor him. But he hasn't, and even though i think we will bring him back someday, it will be much longer because of his actions against UK and some of those personal mistakes he has made.

Yea, this is kind of how my father sees it. He always said had UK been open, he would have loved to come back. Ole dad aways maintained that Pitino went to louisville because he loves the state so much and wanted back in for horse racing and other aspects. Growing up we had many disagreements on it.

I see it both ways. From a career and life standpoint, I understand what he did and I personally don't hold a grudge. But he must understand, you will not overtake UK, and you will not turn the state red. That's the part I don't like. He thought he could do those things.

I thinks it's a little bit of both aspects.

 

[jrpross]

I dug up some previous examples of behavior like that of Memphis fans, which proves they are not unique:

1. "He was my lawyer and I counted on him, but as soon as Delbert Snopes stole my hogs and I needed him to write up a warrant to give the sheriff, I hear he's up and run off to Warshinton. He promised he'd be there for me! Honest Abe my ass!" Elmer Snodgrass, Springfield, Illinois.

2. "Bruce was nothing before he came here. My place made him! And we had a good thing going -- full house every night! And he said, 'Irv, you and me will ride this all the way!' But then he wants to make a record. Well, record this: Spingsteen, you suck!" Irv Goldberg, owner of the Stone Pony, Asbury Park, N.J.

3. "I was Heidi's first. Well, not the first, but I did take her to the Grossenwald Senior Prom. And that night she told me 'We'll always be together." She even wrote it on a napkin. I called her my Klumquat. Next thing I know, I'm seeing her breasts barely covered on Sports Illustrated! And they are much bigger now, by the way. And she's living in LA or NYC or someplace, like eating at Der Snickelgruppen is not good enough for her. So, Klum, what did you mean by 'Forever, you liar!?' Hermann Schwartznacht, Grossenwald Germany.

4. "I hired Al here at the Swiss patent office. Trust me, he was no Newton, but I took a chance. And he promised he'd be there for me. But then he starts muttering about Time and Space, and the next thing I know, he's off getting the Noble Prize. Well, I got the Time and Space to whip your butt the next time I see you Einstein." Erwin Gauspacht, Bern, Switzerland.

You had me at Klumquat.

 

[Poetax]

Cal is great for sure....but dont whine about memphis when there is such a pure hatredof rick pitino, who is a hahall of famer and won us 2 banners!!!

This fan base needs to zip it on this one.

Maybe you need to understand the differences, it's been explained a thousand times on this thread. Plus Rick did not win 2 NC.

 

[jrpross]

Pitino won us his championship and for all intents and purpose won the next one that tubby gets credit for....so thats why i said he won us 2 because basically he did and would have won more had he stayed.

We should show more repect than we do for pitino..time to let it go.....or at least dont bust memphis if u r whining about pitino leaving....

I can only imagine if uk was gonna honor pitino for anything.

If Pitino won the 98 championship, why did he lose in 93, 95, and 97 with superior talent?

I don't hate Pitino for leaving UK for an NBA job. Who could fault a guy for that? It's the way he's acted since that I have a problem with.

 

[General Bland]

I remember this "francis" poster. He's a big Memphis fan from the national boards. One time he posted about using suction cups to climb the sides of that glass pyramid and that he liked to kayak out to the middle of the Ohio river and poop. Strange dude. Loves his Tigers, though.

 

[Xception]

He is a Memphis fan , thinks if he pretends to be a UK fan it will keep him from getting banned .

 

[ccukuk]

What are you talking about? Memphis is a gorgeous and underrated city, plenty of reasons for recruits to go there.

Sure some of those aren't of Louisville?

 

[ccukuk]

You and your fanbase suck go back to your mid major school and your hopes of an NIT.

Relax Francis

 

[ccukuk]

Relax Francis

Few different points Fracis (gonna kill me?) about Cal vs Pitino. Cal MADE Memphis bball and since his departure, it's been unmade. Your program was nothing before Cal and nothing now (and no, don't give us the garbage of Memphis st and it's glory days ((btw, Flobby Knight still thinks that's your school name, how's that for relevance?)) ). Pitino came back to the same state feeling all would accept him and started coaching at Louisville community college, our hated foe (rival is not the right term as it implies a level of equivalence).

 

[83Cat]

I'm glad that Cal didn't set foot in the place. They would have booed him and it would have been ugly. The only thing worth keeping in Memphis is the DOOR.

 

[Orange Soda King]

Here is a nice article about Memphis.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-ba...tribute-cancelled-heartbreak-cowardice-091115

Memphis fans are mad.

They peanut butter and jealous

 

[moe#8]

Memphis and loserville are both very stupid commuter city schools with fans to match, both just low class fans.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

If Pitino won the 98 championship, why did he lose in 93, 95, and 97 with superior talent?

I don't hate Pitino for leaving UK for an NBA job. Who could fault a guy for that? It's the way he's acted since that I have a problem with.

Exactly. Pitino "choked" several times here with vastly superior talent to the 98 team so 100% agree. Tubby may have won with Pitino's players, but he won a title with a team Pitino would not have won with.

 

[theycallmefrancis]

He is a Memphis fan , thinks if he pretends to be a UK fan it will keep him from getting banned .

The level of stupidity of some on here is unreal. Ive never said anything on here to be banned. Keep blasting away though as i am a UK fan just not a douchebag like some.

 

[W2R]

A lot of big money boosters mad about decision to call it off. Aka Fred smith of fed ex is one. They were going to throw the banquet dinner for Cal. A lot of these guys are still friends of Calipari Some see it as distasteful to come out and call it off the way he did They think it's looks bad. Which it does.

 

[Xception]

The level of stupidity of some on here is unreal. Ive never said anything on here to be banned. Keep blasting away though as i am a UK fan just not a douchebag like some.

You're fooling nobody moron , the stupidity is yours for keeping up a gag nobody is buying . You're team sucks , your city sucks . Pretending to be one of us is the only way you'll experience success , can't blame you there .

 

[.S&C.]

A lot of big money boosters mad about decision to call it off. Aka Fred smith of fed ex is one. They were going to throw the banquet dinner for Cal. A lot of these guys are still friends of Calipari Some see it as distasteful to come out and call it off the way he did They think it's looks bad. Which it does.

true

 

[theycallmefrancis]

You're fooling nobody moron , the stupidity is yours for keeping up a gag nobody is buying . You're team sucks , your city sucks . Pretending to be one of us is the only way you'll experience success , can't blame you there .

You are so funny its adorable...u and your boyfriend s&c who seems to be swinging off u. Go big blue

 

[Xception]

You are so funny its adorable...u and your boyfriend s&c who seems to be swinging off u. Go big Memphis blue

Louisville sucks too boy , be quiet before we come back and take the rest of your ish .

 

[Supafuzz75]

It's no different than how some view Pitino

Would you accept it if Pitino were to get into the HOF and UK were to honor him?

Most on here will have a fit!

I thought Rick was already in the hall of fame,, from 2013?

 

[EvilMD]

Cal should post that WCW video of Andy Kaufman taunting Memphis people. "You're Mr. Mayumphis, Taynuhsee, ain't that right Mayumphis Taynuhsee herp derp". I'm sure it's on youtube.

 

[IL Wildcat]

The reasons why UK fans have every right to call this move by Memphis exactly what it is, which is asinine, regardless of what happened or what people feel toward Pitino.

1. What's wrong is wrong. Even if someone is being hypocritical, it doesn't change what is right or wrong.
2. If you're making the hypocrisy case against UK fans, you can't apply that standard to every fan. Some may not be hypocritical at all. In order to make this case, you'd have to prove case by case. Just because ONE (or many for that matter) Kentucky fan hates Pitino to the same level as Memphis fans hate Calipari, doesn't mean all others forfeit the right to speak.
3. Pitino returned to college to coach UK's biggest rival, a team UK is required to play yearly home and home. Calipari left Memphis to take the best job in college basketball which is not any rival of Memphis and which Memphis rarely ever plays. It's apples and oranges.
4. Even if UK fans had not liked it if the school had decided to recognize Pitino in some way, the real embarrassment here is the announcement of a recognition and then a retraction. Is there any way this would have ever happened at UK? Not in a million years. This is the most shameful thing.
5. This is the Hall of Fame. UK fans do dislike Rick Pitino for multiple reasons, but if the school wanted to acknowledge Pitino for making the Hall, UK fans would suck it up and see it done, and done well. Write it down.

So, the talk of everyone needing to shut up because of UK fans' treatment of Pitino needs to end. Cats fans are perfectly justified in being critical of Memphis and its fans.

 

[musrat59]

The reasons why UK fans have every right to call this move by Memphis exactly what it is, which is asinine, regardless of what happened or what people feel toward Pitino.

1. What's wrong is wrong. Even if someone is being hypocritical, it doesn't change what is right or wrong.
2. If you're making the hypocrisy case against UK fans, you can't apply that standard to every fan. Some may not be hypocritical at all. In order to make this case, you'd have to prove case by case. Just because ONE (or many for that matter) Kentucky fan hates Pitino to the same level as Memphis fans hate Calipari, doesn't mean all others forfeit the right to speak.
3. Pitino returned to college to coach UK's biggest rival, a team UK is required to play yearly home and home. Calipari left Memphis to take the best job in college basketball which is not any rival of Memphis and which Memphis rarely ever plays. It's apples and oranges.
4. Even if UK fans had not liked it if the school had decided to recognize Pitino in some way, the real embarrassment here is the announcement of a recognition and then a retraction. Is there any way this would have ever happened at UK? Not in a million years. This is the most shameful thing.
5. This is the Hall of Fame. UK fans do dislike Rick Pitino for multiple reasons, but if the school wanted to acknowledge Pitino for making the Hall, UK fans would suck it up and see it done, and done well. Write it down.

So, the talk of everyone needing to shut up because of UK fans' treatment of Pitino needs to end. Cats fans are perfectly justified in being critical of Memphis and its fans.

 

[musrat59]

You are 100% right IL Wildcat.

 

[EvilMD]

Not all Memphis fans were against honoring Calipari. Keep that in mind, too. Just a very vocal percentage. How big that percentage was, I don't know, but it obviously included big time donors to the program.

 

[Bkocats]

The problem isn't that Memphis fans don't want to honor Cal. Regardless of how we view it, it S their right to feel that way - and comparing it to Pitino is ridiculous no matter how you see it.

The problem was the public invitation, then the public revocation of that invitation by a University President that made, him, and the University, look petty.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

The problem isn't that Memphis fans don't want to honor Cal. Regardless of how we view it, it S their right to feel that way - and comparing it to Pitino is ridiculous no matter how you see it.

The problem was the public invitation, then the public revocation of that invitation by a University President that made, him, and the University, look petty.

Of course they have a right to feel that way, but that does not justify it, or make it any more ridiculous.

Just because they have the right, does NOT mean they have a good reason.

They should be extremely thankful for what Cal did for them, simple as that.

 

[.S&C.]

Louisville sucks too boy , be quiet before we come back and take the rest of your ish .

Won't be long now. He's almost out of the closet.

 

[CELTICAT]

Cal should post that WCW video of Andy Kaufman taunting Memphis people. "You're Mr. Mayumphis, Taynuhsee, ain't that right Mayumphis Taynuhsee herp derp". I'm sure it's on youtube.

Fwiw, that was from Jerry Lawler's Continental Wrestling Association, and it preceded the advent of WCW by several years.

 

[theycallmefrancis]

Won't be long now. He's almost out of the closet.

Swinging from the left to the right....lol

 

[General Bland]

Cal should post that WCW video of Andy Kaufman taunting Memphis people. "You're Mr. Mayumphis, Taynuhsee, ain't that right Mayumphis Taynuhsee herp derp". I'm sure it's on youtube.

"I'm from HOLLYWOOD!"... that really po'd them. LOL. It is a miracle they didn't kill him. At 2:25 he really gets under their skin:

 

[Clive Gollings]

Swinging from the left to the right....lol

So you have no problem with Calipari taking the better job. It's clear UK is a step up. Don't you agree that UM fans are just bitter? I'm guessing you won't answer directly or answer at all, but you have to agree, right?

 

[.S&C.]

Swinging from the left to the right....lol

Your name wouldn't be drew would it?

 

[Bkocats]

Of course they have a right to feel that way, but that does not justify it, or make it any more ridiculous.

Just because they have the right, does NOT mean they have a good reason.

They should be extremely thankful for what Cal did for them, simple as that.

oh I didn't say it was a GOOD reason and it IS ridiculous, really, LOL - but we've read their drivel for years since Cal got here. There was no surprise there.

And yes they should be grateful - but they are too bitter to realize it.

 

[theycallmefrancis]

So you have no problem with Calipari taking the better job. It's clear UK is a step up. Don't you agree that UM fans are just bitter? I'm guessing you won't answer directly or answer at all, but you have to agree, right?

I have absolutely no issue with Cal coming here of course not, and yes memphis fans are definitely bitter. I can understand why they are so bitter, unlike some on here. All i was saying was i didnt see why people were being pissy towards them...the administration were the ones at fault with the way they handled it.