Pitino left for Boston and nobody thought less of him , his move to a rival and in state Louisville is what brought the dislike . Cal left Memphis for the best program and a school Memphis never plays . That you can't make the distinction between those two situations tells me you are a moron or you ignored it to fit your agenda .
Memphis pulls the plug on honoring Cal...
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It is classless and petty, bottom line. This is the Hall of Fame my friends. This is not honoring a former coach who won a title at another school or giving him a parade for making consecutive Final Fours. This is the Hall of Fame, something Memphis had something to do with. They should honor him because he spent a long time and won a bunch of games AT MEMPHIS in order to get this honor.
And no, I probably wouldn't have liked to have Pitino honored at a UK game, but it's the freakin' HALL! You suck it up and do it. When you honor a coach this way, you're also honoring your own school and the teams he coached while working there.
But hey, the next time Memphis does something with class will be the first. So am I shocked at this Bush League move? Not really.
And no, I probably wouldn't have liked to have Pitino honored at a UK game, but it's the freakin' HALL! You suck it up and do it. When you honor a coach this way, you're also honoring your own school and the teams he coached while working there.
But hey, the next time Memphis does something with class will be the first. So am I shocked at this Bush League move? Not really.
Really want to schedule a home and home with them now. It'd be fun bending them over on their home court. Whiny little bitches.
You and your fanbase suck go back to your mid major school and your hopes of an NIT.
Yeah I'm really glad for Cal and his family that it fell apart. They wouldn't have deserved what that classless bunch would have brought.
Minor league move by a minor league university.
Bridge burned. And Cal isn't someone I'd wish to cross.
Bridge burned. And Cal isn't someone I'd wish to cross.
I live in TN and speak for all TN residents when we say "F Memphis." We wish we could the MS River to the east of it and give that cess pool of human garbage to Arkansas.
A few thoughts...
1. Why do they still hate Cal? They have a fairly successful NBA franchise now. It would be like if Crum left U of L to win a title elsewhere when the Colonels were still there. Don't get it.
2. The Memphis president messed up. Twice. His heart was in the right place. His head was somewhere else.
3. I used to travel a lot and had to go to Memphis a couple of times. There used to be a billboard on the main road there with a huge 1-800 number telling you if you were the father or not. Memphis was one of my least favorite trips.
1. Why do they still hate Cal? They have a fairly successful NBA franchise now. It would be like if Crum left U of L to win a title elsewhere when the Colonels were still there. Don't get it.
2. The Memphis president messed up. Twice. His heart was in the right place. His head was somewhere else.
3. I used to travel a lot and had to go to Memphis a couple of times. There used to be a billboard on the main road there with a huge 1-800 number telling you if you were the father or not. Memphis was one of my least favorite trips.
Whatever, they probably couldn't wait to get him there and boo him and be disrespectful and try to embarrass him and his family, sour grapes, that's all it is
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If Memphis doesn't want to participate in the greatness that is Coach John Calipari, then screw them. They were nobody before he got there, they have been irrelevant since he left, and they will NEVER be anybody again.
I really, really would like for UK to face Memphis in the NCAA tournament this season solely so that Cal could beat them by 50.
However, this is unlikely because it would require that Memphis actually reach the tournament.
However, this is unlikely because it would require that Memphis actually reach the tournament.
Horseshit. Pitino was loved in Boston when he left. Louisville is a different matter. Rivals are rivals.
Ridiculous take. How old are you?14?
Memphis a a mid major dump. Good luck in the future competing against Tulane. Good luck hanging your hat on a football program that hasn't done jack shit except 1 meaningless bowl (that turned into Memphis thuggery).
Idiots. All of you. Run along coward.
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To crush Louisville, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of Memphis.
Just shows how low and petty their fan base is. They will forever hold a grudge against the man WHO MADE THEM EVEN REMOTELY RELEVANT!!! That is absurd to me. Before Cal, they were the bottom of the barrel in the C-USA. Their fans were still hanging on tot he modicum of success they had in the 80's and early 90's, but that was only minor success at best. Coach Cal built them into a top 10 program and left them in great shape even without his heralded recruiting class (they had Elliot WIlliams, Roburt Sallie, Wesley WItherspoon, Doneal Mack, Will Coleman, Willie Kemp, and Angel Garcia which should have been a top 15-20 team). Memphis's mistake was trying to stick it to Cal by hiring one of his best recruiters as HC with the hopes that he can keep those top recruits at Memphis. Not only did it fail, it failed tremendously. Pastner has proven that he can't coach his way out of a paper bag and without Cal, or a comparable top-tier coach, Memphis is slowly fading back into oblivion.
Honestly, for comparison, If Stoops were to stay here 9 years and we become a perennial 9 to 10 win a year team in football and play in a couple of big bowl games and he decides to leave for a bigger program, I wouldn't hold any ill will whatsoever and be thankful that he showed that the right coach can win at UK and has built the brand into something that we can grow into something special.
There are only so many top programs in college sports. Coaches who are offered those jobs would be fools to turn them down if they aren't at a comparable program already. Thats just the nature of the profession. The Memphis fans deciding to force the school into not honoring John Calipari just because he spurned them for a top basketball job just goes to show how petty and pathetic they really are.
Honestly, for comparison, If Stoops were to stay here 9 years and we become a perennial 9 to 10 win a year team in football and play in a couple of big bowl games and he decides to leave for a bigger program, I wouldn't hold any ill will whatsoever and be thankful that he showed that the right coach can win at UK and has built the brand into something that we can grow into something special.
There are only so many top programs in college sports. Coaches who are offered those jobs would be fools to turn them down if they aren't at a comparable program already. Thats just the nature of the profession. The Memphis fans deciding to force the school into not honoring John Calipari just because he spurned them for a top basketball job just goes to show how petty and pathetic they really are.
I don't have a problem with the cancellation , it was actually the right thing to do given their fans . The letter issued by the president is what makes the whole thing pitiful on their part . To claim your schools integrity won't allow you to honor Cal was wrong to do , Cal didn't ask anything of Mempis and the president proposed the honor to begin with . So Rudd slighted someone over a situation he himself created , of course none of this is surprising when considering its Memphis . Apparently a educated president can't rise above his lowly fans base .
His son behind him is like, "Man, I rolled out of bed for this picture, didn't even comb my hair, and now dad farts on me!"
So many things could be said about that pic.
I can't blame the Memphis fans for not wanting to do that. UMASS is honoring Cal but he coached there nearly 20 years ago and he left them for the NBA. I can't blame the president for backing out. If you learned anything when Cal was leaving there Memphis has huge ties with huge money since they tried to talk him into staying and I'm sure this is the people the President heard from that caused him to change his mind on this. The president should of sent out some feelers on this before going public. This is where he went wrong.
Be real here. Fan is short for fandom so logic goes out the window quickly. Should they be mad at Cal still, of course not. But in the same breath you have people at UK who despise Pitino for going to UL, even leaving here and going to Boston. Mention Tubby Smith on here and watch the bashing start.
Be real here. Fan is short for fandom so logic goes out the window quickly. Should they be mad at Cal still, of course not. But in the same breath you have people at UK who despise Pitino for going to UL, even leaving here and going to Boston. Mention Tubby Smith on here and watch the bashing start.
Here we go again with this Pitino/UK "same thing" garbage. What the hell is so hard about understanding there is ZERO in common between UK/Pitino and UM/Calipari? Like, nothing alike in the least. Actually, completely different situations and the only similarity is they coach basketball and changed jobs; that's it, so enough already.
You might not blame them for not wanting to do it, but it's ridiculous that a man that brought them more joy than any coach in their history is going to be drug through the mud simply because they "don't like how he left". Well, TOUGH. They were lucky just to have him for as long as they did, and really, he COULD have left for Arkansas, North Carolina State, and several others but chose to stay in Memphis so those shit fans could have their "08" season they love so much. They better not honor any teams under calipari, because without him those teams don't exist. unfortunately in this life, you rarely get it both ways; and thats what this is, fans wanting it both ways.
Cal was very good to Memphis. They are just pissed off their basketball program will never be relevant again, they know it, so they take their anger out on Cal. It's that simple. I live with this trash, and trust me, you don't want to try and legitimize their hypocrisy.
edit: let me add, Memphis BOAST about having huge pockets. They SAY they're going to do this and that and that and this yada yada, but guess what?
Nothing ever happens.
They talk, lots of talk, lots of bragging, because they are inferior to the UT system in this state, academically and athletically. Even in basketball UT is completely on par with Memphis, they just won't admit it. To put it another way, Memphis is F.O.S and irrelevant.
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This is the president who used a moment of honor in a petty attempt to disgrace .
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This might be unpopular, but my take is this.
Memphis fans feel how they feel. I understand their dislike. There is a sector of our fan base who feels the same way about Pitino and never want him associated with UK ever again, regardless of what he did while here. We can all dislike Memphis fans, but they feel how they feel. And they spoke up.
The joke here is on the president and the university. The worst thing you can do in a position of power and influence is waffle back and forth on decisions like this. You make a decision, you take the outcome that comes with it. You don't let the public change that. It's a sign of weakness. The same if a politician makes a foolish move and then does a 180. Not only does he lose respect from the side that supported the initial decision, he loses support of anyone who is neutral and never fully recovers support of the people he caved for.
It's not a direct comparison, but imagine if the fan base on this board influenced decisions of UK athletics? Scary.
Memphis fans feel how they feel. I understand their dislike. There is a sector of our fan base who feels the same way about Pitino and never want him associated with UK ever again, regardless of what he did while here. We can all dislike Memphis fans, but they feel how they feel. And they spoke up.
The joke here is on the president and the university. The worst thing you can do in a position of power and influence is waffle back and forth on decisions like this. You make a decision, you take the outcome that comes with it. You don't let the public change that. It's a sign of weakness. The same if a politician makes a foolish move and then does a 180. Not only does he lose respect from the side that supported the initial decision, he loses support of anyone who is neutral and never fully recovers support of the people he caved for.
It's not a direct comparison, but imagine if the fan base on this board influenced decisions of UK athletics? Scary.
You support your school. I can respect that. Just don't act all high and mighty. You were probably right there living and dying by every Calipari/Memphis game. Don't act like this decision is some righteous victory for the "honorable" supporters of Memphis. Get real. Look at your own program's history. One single coach isn't to blame for those transgressions. I know you don't speak for all Memphis fans, but I think this is why there is such a fierce backlash from UK fans.
None of us really care about what happened at Memphis, or care about what Memphis does not. I assure you, Calipari doesn't either.
1. Pitino will be back at UK to be horned one day. UK fans will cheer. Our fan base is nothing like the trash thats in memphis.
2. It has ZERO in common with the Memphis situation. Nothing. Pitino was loved when he left for Boston. He came back to LOUISVILLE, a Rival, in state, and tried to own us! Good lord people get some perspective here.
3. Memphis fans "feel how they feel" because they are taking their anger out on their athletic departments inability to produce. Everything is Cals fault because they suck. If they were coming off of a final four and looking ahead to a top 5 team, they would have thrown roses at him.
4. You are correct, Cal couldn't care less about hat dump and never asked to be invited. I'd also move the charity out of memphis but he won't. He's got class, something memphis trash doesnt have,
You're right. And there is STILL a sector of our fan base who will NOT cheer. They hate Pitino, the man. He could come back and coach UK to 5 national titles and they would hate him. They hate him for outside basketball reasons, and if you don't think there is part of our fan base who feels this way, you're naive. And no, I'm not in that group and that group is on the radical side, but it is similar.
There are Memphis fans who hate Calipari, the man. They ignore what he brought to Memphis and will continue to hate him regardless.
There are Memphis fans who hate Calipari, the man. They ignore what he brought to Memphis and will continue to hate him regardless.
In an excerpt from Calipari’s new book, Player’s First, he discusses the “burden” he feels to take care of his players. He goes on to vehemently defend them with a chilling analogy, too.
“I go to Mass every morning. It’s how I start my day and it’s my moment of peace, almost meditation. If I’m struggling with a player, it’s where I ask myself: How would I want my own son treated?”
“But I’m also a sinner, as we all are. If you come after one of my players, I come after you twice as hard. If you kill one of mine, I burn your village. It’s the Italian in me. I’m not proud of that, but it’s who I am.”
Hmmmmm...what happens when you try to disgrace his name in such a public way?
“I go to Mass every morning. It’s how I start my day and it’s my moment of peace, almost meditation. If I’m struggling with a player, it’s where I ask myself: How would I want my own son treated?”
“But I’m also a sinner, as we all are. If you come after one of my players, I come after you twice as hard. If you kill one of mine, I burn your village. It’s the Italian in me. I’m not proud of that, but it’s who I am.”
Hmmmmm...what happens when you try to disgrace his name in such a public way?
I hear ya, but again, its not comparable. Had Pitino left for Boston and came back to any school besides UL and he would still be loved. You cannot dismiss the school, and I don't think its about Pitino "the man" at all. I think it's about Louisville.
Memphis hates Cal for ridiculous reasons. The UK fans that hate Pitino have plenty of legitimate reasons that anyone in any sport would understand. People wanted Pitino back when he left Boston. That in itself destroys the notion that it's even close to similar.
To me, it's fine if UK fans want to call it unfair. But I agree with the fans not wanting to have Cal come to Memphis and honor him. You can call them garbage, hypocritical whatever, but in their minds the program is not a second run program. Something I would say they are wrong about but that's not going to change their fans' minds. They think they are better than this than UMASS. Like I said, fan is short for fandom. You can call it garbage all day, but there are plenty of jilted lovers of Pitino's exit here. Fans that cheered on Pitino and would drop their jacket in the mud for him to walk over but would now trip him into the mud. You have fans wanting the jersey taken down. I will agree, a lot of it has to do with the UL thing but I would say when it come to Memphis fans, they see it the same.
UK didn't honor Pitino when he made the HOF because he is still coaching at another school. So why you expect Memphis to do the same is beyond me.
Dude Cal is an Alpha. He will destroy them in his own way. They better enjoy watching all the city talent end up in Kentucky.
This will or should I say should make Memphis fans stop wondering why Cal left the dump.
We still have RP's name hanging from the rafters. just to measure the difference between the class and the classless.
From now on I will drive from Tampa through Atlanta to Nashville to Lexington just to avoid going through the Memphis junkyard.
We still have RP's name hanging from the rafters. just to measure the difference between the class and the classless.
From now on I will drive from Tampa through Atlanta to Nashville to Lexington just to avoid going through the Memphis junkyard.
Did you miss the part completely about those two situations, UK and UM Cal/Pitino being NOTHING alike? Why do you keep comparing apples and oranges man?
For these situations to be similar, Kentucky would need to be in Tennessee and be Memphis's biggest rival, AND Cal would have had to go pro first, then come back to do it. Please, see the difference.
I get the fandom stuff, but it's not an excuse.
And no, we were dying sad when Pitino left - Sad - Not mad. It's when he chose to do the unthinkable, that shit got real. You know that, especially if you're old enough.
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