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[BlueSince92]

How about we bring Tubby back and sign Bobby Perry, Sheray Thomas, and Lukasz Obrzut?

Consider an important wrinkle:

Tubby signed Bobby Perry, Sheray, and Lukasz in the days before one and done really took off and the bleeding toward the NBA, NBA development league, and overseas really started.

If Tubby were here today, no way he’d be bringing in recruits as good as those three.

 

[stereonut]

Not all number one recruiting classes are the same. See 2013. Yes, we have two high level recruits coming in that will probably be ballers from day one. But after losing as much as we lost off this last team, we need more than two difference makers to come in. The rest of the class looks good but most experts describe these guys as "raw." That won't cut it next year. We need a third stud from somewhere if we're gonna be serious title contenders next year like a Kuminga or Banchero.

I surely get your point, and agree, but our number one class wasn't chosen as number one because of only two guys.

The "raw" guys must have impressed several people also.

With that said, I like your thinking about bringing in another "stud."

 

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

He’s not even trying. What could be worse than a troll wasting the miserable moments of his life on the Kentucky basketball site, then bringing so little wit or intelligence to it that the only reaction to his posts is contempt?

I’m not sure but I think HE is a SHE.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

Well, that’s right about what we are going after right now. If you and anyone else can’t see that there’s a problem then you need to open your eyes. Or more likely y’all see it but just don’t want to believe it.

Are you for real?! Has Cal ever recruited guys with the limited skill sets of Perry, Thomas and/or Obrzut?! That’s just a crazy post and incorrect. Yes, I watched every season that Tubby was here.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

I’m not sure but I think HE is a SHE.

Unless “HE” has magically grown boobs, which wouldn’t surprise me this day and time. “SHE” supposedly has a very nice rack. Just ask “HER”, “SHE” will tell you. I should note, I didn’t ask, “SHE” offered that info in the dogs and epilepsy thread I created a few months back.

 

[seccats04]

I surely get your point, and agree, but our number one class wasn't chosen as number one because of only two guys.

The "raw" guys must have impressed several people also.

With that said, I like your thinking about bringing in another "stud."

Look, all the HS guys are ranked in the top 45 so they are very good players. But, that does not mean they will be very good college players next year. For instance, Askew probably won't be ready next year frome everything we've read but should be a stud by his second year. However, that won't help us much next year. Same with Fletcher, if he sticks around. Jackson is raw offensively and will need development. Same with Ware. Eventually, these guys will be very good but we've been told to temper our expectations for next year with most of them.

 

[floatingyou]

Guaranteed the OP has seen neither kid play. Ever. But still claiming one is better bc...

 

[WallMashKyBall]

How about we bring Tubby back and sign Bobby Perry, Sheray Thomas, and Lukasz Obrzut?

I love this response. I think all three of those guys played to best of their ability. But those Bobby Perry, Sheray Thomas years were painful.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

I love this response. I think all three of those guys played to best of their ability. But those Bobby Perry, Sheray Thomas years were painful.

Yes. Yes, they sure were. Glad those days are over. Good Lordy.

 

[drcats2013]

I love this response. I think all three of those guys played to best of their ability. But those Bobby Perry, Sheray Thomas years were painful.

I’m glad you said that. I meant ZERO disrespect to those guys as they did indeed give their all, they were just simply not talented enough to play at Kentucky.

Some people are just so entitled with Kentucky basketball. They feel for some reason that they’re owed a national title every season, and when they don’t get it they cry and blame a coach that continues to give us a chance to win. Drives me crazier than it should lol

 

[Dirk2Bowie]

How about we bring Tubby back and sign Bobby Perry, Sheray Thomas, and Lukasz Obrzut?

How could you leave out the greatest UK point guard to every place em up, Micheal "Keep Me Away From Your Young Daughter" Porter?

 

[drcats2013]

How could you leave out the greatest UK point guard to every place em up, Micheal "Keep Me Away From Your Young Daughter" Porter?

Mark Coury, Shagari Alleyne, Rekalin Sims, etc. The list truly goes on and on

 

[Bill Withers]

Not all number one recruiting classes are the same. See 2013. Yes, we have two high level recruits coming in that will probably be ballers from day one. But after losing as much as we lost off this last team, we need more than two difference makers to come in. The rest of the class looks good but most experts describe these guys as "raw." That won't cut it next year. We need a third stud from somewhere if we're gonna be serious title contenders next year like a Kuminga or Banchero.

I don't see how anyone can truly argue against that

 

[Smashcat]

Clarke giving recruiting Silva.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Are you for real?! Has Cal ever recruited guys with the limited skill sets of Perry, Thomas and/or Obrzut?! That’s just a crazy post and incorrect. Yes, I watched every season that Tubby was here.

Who was better, Perry or EJ? I’d take Perry. Idc what they were ranked in high school. Atleast Perry could step out and hit a jumper. Whitney showed absolutely no skill in any department except being able to run and jump.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

Who was better, Perry or EJ? I’d take Perry. Idc what they were ranked in high school. Whitney showed absolutely no skill in any department except being able to run and jump.

Sophomore Perry or sophomore EJ? Definitely sophomore EJ, hands down. Whitney didn’t even play half a season here. Not really a fair argument.

 

[Bill Withers]

Clarke giving recruiting Silva.

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I really like Clarke. If we have a season, can't wait to see him play.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Sophomore Perry or sophomore EJ? Definitely sophomore EJ, hands down. Whitney didn’t even play half a season here. Not really a fair argument.

He could have played a full season and it wouldn’t matter. He was getting worse and worse. He was HORRIBLE.

Perry vs EJ Sophomore Stats.
• EJ: 24mpg, 6ppg, 5rpg
• BP: 11mpg, 3ppg, 2rpg

So basically if Perry gets the same minutes as EJ he puts up just slightly better numbers. Add in the fact that Perry took a pretty good jump his junior year and stayed all 4 years, yeah id take Perry over EJ in a heartbeat.

The simple fact that it’s even debatable is pretty sorry on EJ’s part. He was a top 10 recruit. Perry was around top 80-120 if I remember right. It’s a complete joke that the two had similar sophomore years, one comes back for two more years and the other couldn’t be bothered to “waste” another year at Kentucky and turns “pro.” He will be pro in something other than sports by age 30. I imagine even euro leagues won’t even want EJ by then.

 

[kyups01]

Yes both would be great

 

[bradscats]

He could have played a full season and it wouldn’t matter. He was getting worse and worse. He was HORRIBLE.

Perry vs EJ Sophomore Stats.
• EJ: 24mpg, 6ppg, 5rpg
• BP: 11mpg, 3ppg, 2rpg

So basically if Perry gets the same minutes as EJ he puts up just slightly better numbers. Add in the fact that Perry took a pretty good jump his junior year and stayed all 4 years, yeah id take Perry over EJ in a heartbeat.

The simple fact that it’s even debatable is pretty sorry on EJ’s part. He was a top 10 recruit. Perry was around top 80-120 if I remember right. It’s a complete joke that the two had similar sophomore years, one comes back for two more years and the other couldn’t be bothered to “waste” another year at Kentucky and turns “pro.” He will be pro in something other than sports by age 30. I imagine even euro leagues won’t even want EJ by then.

Perry was ranked 115 and looked kind of like an alien coming out of high school. But he sure have UK all he had.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

He could have played a full season and it wouldn’t matter. He was getting worse and worse. He was HORRIBLE.

Perry vs EJ Sophomore Stats.
• EJ: 24mpg, 6ppg, 5rpg
• BP: 11mpg, 3ppg, 2rpg

So basically if Perry gets the same minutes as EJ he puts up just slightly better numbers. Add in the fact that Perry took a pretty good jump his junior year and stayed all 4 years, yeah id take Perry over EJ in a heartbeat.

The simple fact that it’s even debatable is pretty sorry on EJ’s part. He was a top 10 recruit. Perry was around top 80-120 if I remember right. It’s a complete joke that the two had similar sophomore years, one comes back for two more years and the other couldn’t be bothered to “waste” another year at Kentucky and turns “pro.” He will be pro in something other than sports by age 30. I imagine even euro leagues won’t even want EJ by then.

Okay seeing that, you have a solid point. Still, as a whole, Cal’s recruits dwarf Tubby’s recruits. It’s not even close.

 

[kb22stang]

Sophomore Perry or sophomore EJ? Definitely sophomore EJ, hands down. Whitney didn’t even play half a season here. Not really a fair argument.

If Whitney wouldn't even stick around doesn't that make Perry the better recruit?

And I'm sorry, I wouldn't take EJ over Bobby P. At least BP played hard all the time. EJ was just a ball of potential, looks good getting off the bus.

 

[gharding07]

we have enough dudes that are 6'7. This one can't even jump. Gotta go with the bean pole here. Protect the tin!

 

[NewHock15]

Bobby Perry was decent at Kentucky. The problem was he ended up being the best out of that class and the only one who did anything at UK. If Perry was the 3rd best recruit out of one of those Tubby classes we would have had way better teams.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

Not sure if this has been posted yet but Silva going against Haarms and Williams of Purdue. He looks pretty dam good and runs the floor well. I have been big on Haarms, but this guy might be the better fit. Honestly, I hope Cal lands them both because if Tobbin suits out this would still give us a solid 11.

 

[ralphdaltonfan]

Ralph how did jj blow his opportunity to become a head coach?

Cal used to attend UNC Wilmington. He has a lot of connections still there and helped Justus get that interview. Take into account Justus is from North Carolina and has a lot of contacts in his home state. This was an interview equivalent of being on a pick and roll and wide open lane/hoop and finishing like Ashton Hagans. (not the HS version who somehow threw down on EJ Montgomery who as we've seen would've been better off just moving out of the way for Hagans to miss)

Most big time coaches in college athletics prefer to help land a guy a job instead of cutting them loose when they are ready to make changes. A few other things can't be mentioned publicly but let's just say his public ass kissing did get a laugh from some of Cal's friends (who aren't on staff or connected with UK) in the industry.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Mark Coury, Shagari Alleyne, Rekalin Sims, etc. The list truly goes on and on

MARK COURY THE STARTER

 

[Titpwhami2014]

Cal used to attend UNC Wilmington. He has a lot of connections still there and helped Justus get that interview. Take into account Justus is from North Carolina and has a lot of contacts in his home state. This was an interview equivalent of being on a pick and roll and wide open lane/hoop and finishing like Ashton Hagans. (not the HS version who somehow threw down on EJ Montgomery who as we've seen would've been better off just moving out of the way for Hagans to miss)

Most big time coaches in college athletics prefer to help land a guy a job instead of cutting them loose when they are ready to make changes. A few other things can't be mentioned publicly but let's just say his public ass kissing did get a laugh from some of Cal's friends (who aren't on staff or connected with UK) in the industry.

This makes me sad on a number of levels. I think JJ has solid character, but I also understand why he's still an assistant. You have to be super intense, or super sales-y to the be the head coach, and Joel is neither. I'm not an AD by any means, and my opinion means nothing, but I kind of get it.

 

[LukaszObrzut87]

How about we bring Tubby back and sign Bobby Perry, Sheray Thomas, and Lukasz Obrzut?

Hey now what the shit man.

 

[drcats2013]

Hey now what the shit man.

Look man, you’re a nice guy and I rooted my ass of for you when I was a child, but it is what it is.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Okay seeing that, you have a solid point. Still, as a whole, Cal’s recruits dwarf Tubby’s recruits. It’s not even close.

I agree with you as a whole.