Liam Coen
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Seems like a really odd choice (zero track record, never called plays ...), but then again it’s statistically impossible for our offense to get any worse.
So ... yay?
So ... yay?
It seems like Stoops is trying to find the next Joe Brady. Brady was just a graduate assistant on Penn St in 2016 and then he blew up after his stint with the SaintsSeems like a really odd choice (zero track record, never called plays ...), but then again it’s statistically impossible for our offense to get any worse.
So ... yay?
Stoops needs to step away from the offense. He works offense with a completely defensive mind set. Always trying to eat up clock instead of trying to score.
How do you get them year 1?
What do you tell them?
I helped the guy who coached the QB who ran some other guys offense?
Like I said, his job title suggests he wasn't responsible for much of anything. Hope I'm wrong.
Very happy with this hire, the Rams schemes get receivers open, consistently, outside the numbers, down the seams, over the middle, receivers will love this system
We have some talented receivers coming in already and with grad transfer quarterbacks moving every year, signing a quarterback every year isn’t quite as important as it used to be . Hopefully Gatewood and Allen will be productive quarterbacks for the next few years anyway.
Is that racist? I don’t even know any more . 🍺
It’s not yosi, just good natured message board fun🍺
Money and resume cred.
Same reason ole dude went from saints to LSU.
When you're paying QBs and DEs 100s of millions, there's not a lot of money left over for "GAs" or "assistant QB coaches"
I bet whatever he end's up making, even if it's not what Gran was getting, will be two or 3 times what he was getting in LA.
Factor in a lower cost of living and taxes...ole dude is gonna have some jingle in his pocket.
OC in SEC means something in the football business. Hell, even just the half-assed play-callers in this league who get to a bowl have better OC gigs come calling at least, if not some HC sniffs as well.
Call me crazy but I believe we just hit a home run with this guy.
You say "hey look kid I'm gonna level with ya...I'm new...I don't have a lot of answers but let me ask you something...have you seen Hard Knocks...more specifically did you see the episodes that showed Jared's and Sean's girls...well I got the 3rd stringer in that gaggle of friends but she's still a f**king 9.3...You wanna know how I got that girl...because I'm the mother F***er who coached Jared to run Sean's offense...now do you want to maybe have so much as a sniff at getting a pro look and maybe one-day girlfriend like those guys and myself...then come to Kentucky and get some"
I honestly have mixed feelings about this hire. On one hand, he's the most inexperienced OC we've had under Stoops. He comes to us from a good offensive system, but he wasn't the play caller so we don't really know how good he may or may not be. We just don't have a track record to go on. But if he does turn out to be a good hire, maybe we can hang on to him for a while being UK gave him his first major coaching job at a P5 school. And inexperienced doesn't mean destined to fail. All of today's greats were inexperienced at one time until someone gave them the chance to shine.
Coen wasn't my 1st, 2nd or even 3rd choice for this job. I really, really wanted Joe Moorhead. I thought he had the most proven track record, the most name recognition and a really good offense. But that also made him a coach that would have been the most difficult to reel in. Maybe he wants to stay at Oregon or migrate to the OC position at one of the bigger job openings like Auburn, Texas or somewhere else. Even if we could have secured him, it would have likely been a lengthy waiting game. Going into signing day, we needed to make the future direction of the program known to recruits. So we couldn't afford to wait too long.
I hope this hire works out. While I'm admittedly very nervous about Coen's lack of experience, I hope he installs an offense that will be successful at UK...an offense that will generate points, be balanced, be fun to watch and be attractive for skill position recruits. At least I think it is safe to say we finally have someone who will get the tight ends involved in the passing game. This has seemingly been a gripe I've had with this staff for years. I want every position on our offense to be a potential weapon.
Coen wasn't my 1st, 2nd or even 3rd choice for this job. I really, really wanted Joe Moorhead. I thought he had the most proven track record, the most name recognition and a really good offense. But that also made him a coach that would have been the most difficult to reel in. Maybe he wants to stay at Oregon or migrate to the OC position at one of the bigger job openings like Auburn, Texas or somewhere else. Even if we could have secured him, it would have likely been a lengthy waiting game. Going into signing day, we needed to make the future direction of the program known to recruits. So we couldn't afford to wait too long.
I hope this hire works out. While I'm admittedly very nervous about Coen's lack of experience, I hope he installs an offense that will be successful at UK...an offense that will generate points, be balanced, be fun to watch and be attractive for skill position recruits. At least I think it is safe to say we finally have someone who will get the tight ends involved in the passing game. This has seemingly been a gripe I've had with this staff for years. I want every position on our offense to be a potential weapon.
Finally a post that's not so elementary, actually a well thought out and mature post.
McVey is constantly complimented by NFL analysts on all networks for his offensive schemes and formations, so hopefully Coen has absorbed that like a sponge.
I like this hire. Stoops fired Gran who ran our piss poor offense. Our new OC is well known in football circles and has pro experience. Hopefully, Stoops has learned to give a new offensive coordinator room to be effective in his job. But, I have my doubts that he can do that.
He was the only guy on staff who had QB in his title. His relationship with the OC and McVay is no different than Stoops having his hand in what Clink does here.
I disagree about the need for name recognition. And honestly, having a guy pitch to a WR or QB that he was coaching QB’s and WR’s the last 3 years with the LA Rams sounds a helluva lot better than Brian Brohm saying he called plays for Purdue or Andy Kotelnicki (who some posters mentioned) telling a recruit he was calling plays for the University of Buffalo.
Are you going to keep your username?
It is always nice to hear people within an organization offer such glowing commentary on one its members who are leaving for new opportunities. It certainly sounds like he has the respect and complete confidence from the players he has coached. In this business such things are important. And you aren't going to get a much more glowing endorsement than that. It sounds like we've landed a good one even though most of us don't yet know much about the guy.
I read somewhere where the Rams Head coach was talking about Covid safety and coaching staff and he said one thing they do is try to keep the OC and Coen separated, so if one goes down the other one is not quarantined. That tells me that Coen is 2nd man in charge in that offense.
If it makes you feel any better, Coen is 35 and has 5 years of experience being a college OC or a passing coordinator (basically an OC... At least half of one). Plus several years of NFL experience.
Neal Brown was 33, had no NFL experience, and had 5 years of OC experience before making his way to Kentucky.
I think Coen will do well if he's half as good as various NFL folks have claimed.
I hope you understand this better than this. It means that Stoops has NO intention of changing his philisophy and doing anymore on offense than he allowed Gran. Just another coach under his thumb when it comes to the offensive side of the ball...just my opinion.
He said college football has officially become an offensive game. "It used to be that good defense beats good offense. Good defense doesn't beat good offense anymore," Saban told ESPN on Friday. ... It used to be if you had a good defense, other people weren't going to score.
Stoops wanted to change the offense, I think he has accomplished that. I felt our quarterback position didn't improve/advance like I thought they would, I think that will get better. Really hoping Wolford and whoever ends up rb coach are good recruiters. I'm really excited about the 2019 and 2020 receiver classes....... I'm in, I think this could be fun.
Slugger is a good guy. He just wants to win and thinks he knows the formula. If Stoops proves him wrong he’ll be happier than anyone.
Sounds to me like a new guy Stoops knows he can control. How do you pick a guy with so little experience and expect him to excel in the SEC? Horrible pick in my opinion.
If you are below average intelligence will you please post less so smarter people can be heard?
The Brohm is UL all the way and should stay away from UK.
Somebody get Hayes , Upshaw, Cummings, Crumes , Devonshire, Drennan, Smoke, Tisdale, CRod the damn ball in space..
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