I would love to see that lineup. I think UK is just one piece away from being great. I think as the lineup stands right now they'll still be really good, but they might struggle against other really good teams... however, with another quality guy such as Murray, I feel like the team could be special.
Jamal Murray update (no reclassify, yet)
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Why is there even an argument going about whether Murray would start over Ulis and Briscoe when it is very obvious that they would all three start if Murray comes here?
They are totally compatible.
Offensively:
Ulis- a pass first player that shoots very well.
Briscoe- a scorer turned PG, good passer and decent shooter.
Murray- a great scorer and shooter that can handle and pass as well.
Defensively:
Ulis- at 5'9 he will only guard the 1, but is great at defending.
Briscoe- at 6'4, 215-ish with a 6'8 wingspan he should be able to guard the 1-3 spots.
Murray- at 6'5, 205-ish with a 6'7 wingspan he should be able to guard the 1-3 spots.
They are totally compatible.
Offensively:
Ulis- a pass first player that shoots very well.
Briscoe- a scorer turned PG, good passer and decent shooter.
Murray- a great scorer and shooter that can handle and pass as well.
Defensively:
Ulis- at 5'9 he will only guard the 1, but is great at defending.
Briscoe- at 6'4, 215-ish with a 6'8 wingspan he should be able to guard the 1-3 spots.
Murray- at 6'5, 205-ish with a 6'7 wingspan he should be able to guard the 1-3 spots.
Briscoe is a bad dude. When Cal gets him in shape this summer...then watch out. The kid can score shooting the ball...great step back long-range, can get to the hoop & finish, tremendous passer...his toughness is through the roof. You guys are crazy thinking Murray is light years ahead. Murray is faster on the dribble, taller obviously, & a good shooter. Not as strong as Briscoe.
Murray & Briscoe are totally different type players & they will both play along side of each other at times. And yes...Murray will be a wildcat...this year.
Murray & Briscoe are totally different type players & they will both play along side of each other at times. And yes...Murray will be a wildcat...this year.
That's the lineup I would sell Murray on if I was Cal. Just run 3 guards down everybody's throat.
"But we don't have a conventional 3" ... nothing says you have to have one. You put the guys on the floor who give you the best chance to win, no matter their "position." Period.
Anybody else letting themselves get their hopes up about Murray after telling themselves they wouldn't? I think if we get him, we will have a really good shot to contend for a title, even with no true 3 or much depth. Have to avoid injuries of course.
Thanks for getting back on topic. In, at least, 3 Canadian Provinces secondary education
ends at the end of the 11th year. In some private schools that is also the situation. In case it has gone unnoticed, not all educational systems are modeled after the US. Requirements for graduation are different, and the number of years may be different. It could look similar to reclassification in the US, but he may have already cleared.
Not that anyone gives a rat's behind about something you can't turn into an all out name calling rodeo. Wait. What am I thinking. I will get it started. I am an idiot!
Thinking about Ulis, Briscoe, Murray and Labissuere on the floor at the same time....Wow!!! The perfect storm.
Skal and Murray you would think would be salavating getting to play with two pass happy guards in Ulis and Briscoe.
Ulis, Briscoe, and Murray would start at the 1-2-3 spots. Murray is 6-5 and can play the wing easily. Don't know why people think he HAS to play the 1 or the 2 or isn't big enough to play the 3.
Has there been any word on whether or not Murray would want to play the 3 or if he is dead set on playing PG (ala Malike Newman)? I know in Cal's system he could/would play more like a guard if he wanted, but I wonder what Murray thinks about it. Would love for UK to get Murray myself.
Here is a write up about Murray when he played Newmans team. The game was anybody's game until the 4th quarter when Orangeville Prep changed their style of play. They just gave Murray the ball and got out of his way. That was the way Malik Newman had been playing the whole game. But when. Murray played the same style that Newman was he just took over and was unstoppable. I watched this game as well live in the seats. And Murray was as Inpressive as Newman was when they changed it up for Murray.
Murray wills team to victory
Jamal Murray took over when his team needed him.
By the time the dust had settled, a score of 85-71 didn't indicate how tight of a game it was between Canada-based Orangeville Prep and Jackson (Miss.) Callaway. A back-and-forth brawl until late free throws opened it up for Orangeville, the game featured a 42-point scoring binge from Callaway's Malik Newman in defeat and a 31-point performance from Orangeville's Jamal Murray.
To the victors go the spoils, so we will start off the discussion by reviewing the play of Murray. A 6-foot-4 combo guard who currently ranks No. 19 in the class of 2016, the five-star was outstanding in every aspect of the game. He carried the offensive load early with 14 first-half points before scoring the last 14 of his team high 31 down the stretch in the fourth quarter.
Murray pulled up in transition to hit three-pointers with a high degree of difficulty. He drove the lane to earn trips to the free throw line and he led his team vocally while competing on both ends of the floor. Capable of running the show from the point or sliding off the ball to play as a scorer, Murray refused to budge as his team got down in the fourth quarter and showed a tremendous will to win.
A true competitor, Murray said that he let the game dictate which role he would play.
"The score was too close late, I had to score at that point," Murray said after the game. "Malik got hot so I started trying to take over and hit the shots that I needed to hit."
Like everybody else in the gym, Murray was both impressed by Newman and proud of the way his team responded against the big-time senior in a pressure situation.
"I've played against him before at LeBron camp and stuff like that," said Murray. "He's a good player and hard to guard. We both played great and we played a good team game and that was what I was really looking for."
On the recruiting front, Murray said that his father has been handling most of his recruitment for now, but he did mention Michigan State, Louisville, Michigan and Illinois as some of the teams with interest. Murray also addressed talk about a possible move to the class of 2015 by indicating that he is in a position to do so academically, but that any decision to reclassify will be made much further down the road.
- See more at: https://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1712786#sthash.O9Tb6hqi.dpuf
Murray wills team to victory
Jamal Murray took over when his team needed him.
By the time the dust had settled, a score of 85-71 didn't indicate how tight of a game it was between Canada-based Orangeville Prep and Jackson (Miss.) Callaway. A back-and-forth brawl until late free throws opened it up for Orangeville, the game featured a 42-point scoring binge from Callaway's Malik Newman in defeat and a 31-point performance from Orangeville's Jamal Murray.
To the victors go the spoils, so we will start off the discussion by reviewing the play of Murray. A 6-foot-4 combo guard who currently ranks No. 19 in the class of 2016, the five-star was outstanding in every aspect of the game. He carried the offensive load early with 14 first-half points before scoring the last 14 of his team high 31 down the stretch in the fourth quarter.
Murray pulled up in transition to hit three-pointers with a high degree of difficulty. He drove the lane to earn trips to the free throw line and he led his team vocally while competing on both ends of the floor. Capable of running the show from the point or sliding off the ball to play as a scorer, Murray refused to budge as his team got down in the fourth quarter and showed a tremendous will to win.
A true competitor, Murray said that he let the game dictate which role he would play.
"The score was too close late, I had to score at that point," Murray said after the game. "Malik got hot so I started trying to take over and hit the shots that I needed to hit."
Like everybody else in the gym, Murray was both impressed by Newman and proud of the way his team responded against the big-time senior in a pressure situation.
"I've played against him before at LeBron camp and stuff like that," said Murray. "He's a good player and hard to guard. We both played great and we played a good team game and that was what I was really looking for."
On the recruiting front, Murray said that his father has been handling most of his recruitment for now, but he did mention Michigan State, Louisville, Michigan and Illinois as some of the teams with interest. Murray also addressed talk about a possible move to the class of 2015 by indicating that he is in a position to do so academically, but that any decision to reclassify will be made much further down the road.
- See more at: https://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1712786#sthash.O9Tb6hqi.dpuf
Canadian five-star guard Jamal Murray won game MVP honors with Mark Turgeon on hand and afterwards talked about his recent visit to College Park.
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going to look in good in blue and white ( i hope) don't know why but ever since the Zimmerman and Newman debacle ( 2 guys Cal thought he was going to get ) i have been pessimistic about 2015 and the spring but i get a good vibe about Murray especially since Oregon is out of it basically. UCONN vs UK . Hope UK can win one for once.
Ranked No. 18 in the class of 2016, Canadian Murray easily backed up his lofty status in the rising junior class. A combo guard who can shoot it from deep, attack off the bounce and has a good feel for things it was hard not to see some young Cory Joseph in his game. Murray arrived in St. Louis one of the more polished perimeter players in his class and he did nothing but solidify his reputation as a smooth operator. - See more at: https://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1650947#sthash.QCnxQRNF.dpuf
Jamal Murray is on an absolute tear of late.
The Kitchener product scored a game-high 29 points while recording 10 rebounds, eight assists, and three steals but it wasn’t enough for Team White as its frantic fourth quarter comeback came up short to Team Red in a 99-95 loss in the inaugural BioSteel All Canadian Basketball Game held at the Mattamy Athletic Centre Tuesday night.
Murray single handedly sparked Team White, down nine with five minutes to go. The 18-year-old point guard shouldered the offensive burden all night, and did so again in the final frame by hitting an array of difficult shots in the paint to lead the charge.
Red’s Justin Jackson had a strong take that resulted in a bucket plus the foul with less than a minute to play. The ensuring offensive rebound on the free throw made it a two-possession game and sealed the victory.
Team Red put together a 9-0 run to open the fourth quarter that ultimately gave them enough of a cushion.
Nelson Kaputo took centre stage during the spurt as he nailed a high-reaching floater following a dazzling dribbling display. Kaputo then hit a tough contested step-back three on the next possession to give the red squad a 79-70 lead.
Murray, who was named the MVP for his team, was the unquestioned star of the night despite the loss, .
“It’s almost like he sees the game in slow motion, he’s almost picking (the defence) apart as he’s bringing the ball up the floor,” said coach Paul Melnik.
“He makes some shots and I’m looking at the assistant coaches and I’m thinking ‘wow, this guy is for real.’”
The 6-foot-6 guard knows that with the added attention he is now in the crosshairs of many up and coming Canadian prospects trying to make a name for themselves.
“Mentally preparing for the game,” Murray said when answering how he is able to repeatedly perform in the high profile events that include MVP honors at the Nike Hoop Summit this past Saturday and the 2013 Michael Jordan Brand Classic.
“Knowing that (I’m) playing against some guys who are trying to take (my) spot and use that will and that hunger to get better. I’m always trying to hold my own and keep my ground to win games.”
http://torontoobserver.ca/2015/04/1...-case-to-be-canadas-next-big-basketball-star/
The Kitchener product scored a game-high 29 points while recording 10 rebounds, eight assists, and three steals but it wasn’t enough for Team White as its frantic fourth quarter comeback came up short to Team Red in a 99-95 loss in the inaugural BioSteel All Canadian Basketball Game held at the Mattamy Athletic Centre Tuesday night.
Murray single handedly sparked Team White, down nine with five minutes to go. The 18-year-old point guard shouldered the offensive burden all night, and did so again in the final frame by hitting an array of difficult shots in the paint to lead the charge.
Red’s Justin Jackson had a strong take that resulted in a bucket plus the foul with less than a minute to play. The ensuring offensive rebound on the free throw made it a two-possession game and sealed the victory.
Team Red put together a 9-0 run to open the fourth quarter that ultimately gave them enough of a cushion.
Nelson Kaputo took centre stage during the spurt as he nailed a high-reaching floater following a dazzling dribbling display. Kaputo then hit a tough contested step-back three on the next possession to give the red squad a 79-70 lead.
Murray, who was named the MVP for his team, was the unquestioned star of the night despite the loss, .
“It’s almost like he sees the game in slow motion, he’s almost picking (the defence) apart as he’s bringing the ball up the floor,” said coach Paul Melnik.
“He makes some shots and I’m looking at the assistant coaches and I’m thinking ‘wow, this guy is for real.’”
The 6-foot-6 guard knows that with the added attention he is now in the crosshairs of many up and coming Canadian prospects trying to make a name for themselves.
“Mentally preparing for the game,” Murray said when answering how he is able to repeatedly perform in the high profile events that include MVP honors at the Nike Hoop Summit this past Saturday and the 2013 Michael Jordan Brand Classic.
“Knowing that (I’m) playing against some guys who are trying to take (my) spot and use that will and that hunger to get better. I’m always trying to hold my own and keep my ground to win games.”
http://torontoobserver.ca/2015/04/1...-case-to-be-canadas-next-big-basketball-star/
Despite all the inflated talk of Matthew being a potential OAD and Briscoe secretly being Superman, Kentucky is in need of a program boost after one of the most disappointing 30 days in program history. Sell it any way you want, but it's true. Murray would provide that boost in the most satisfying way.
No way is this "one of the most disappointing 30 days in program history."
Steve Nash: Jamal Murray Could Make the Jump to the NBA Right Now
Some extremely high praise was coming Jamal Murray’s way, following his dominating performance at the Biosteel All-Canadian high school All Star game, namely from former two-time NBA MVP Steve Nash.
When I asked Nash in a media scrum yesterday during a Tangerine Bank and YMCA community sponsored event, if he though Murray had the potential to jump straight to the NBA, Nash said “I think, absolutely he could, if not because he’s ready right now, maybe because people see the potential (in him) is just immense, and if they can get him and develop him…Even now is not too soon.”
When asked how it felt when the Red Team’s backcourt seemed to take turns guarding him, as if to see who could lock him down, Murray responded with “I take every matchup personally, I try to be aggressive with my thinking, and to really just worry about my own game regardless who guards me.”
http://tipofthetower.com/2015/04/16/steve-nash-jamal-murray-make-jump-nba-right-now/
Some extremely high praise was coming Jamal Murray’s way, following his dominating performance at the Biosteel All-Canadian high school All Star game, namely from former two-time NBA MVP Steve Nash.
When I asked Nash in a media scrum yesterday during a Tangerine Bank and YMCA community sponsored event, if he though Murray had the potential to jump straight to the NBA, Nash said “I think, absolutely he could, if not because he’s ready right now, maybe because people see the potential (in him) is just immense, and if they can get him and develop him…Even now is not too soon.”
When asked how it felt when the Red Team’s backcourt seemed to take turns guarding him, as if to see who could lock him down, Murray responded with “I take every matchup personally, I try to be aggressive with my thinking, and to really just worry about my own game regardless who guards me.”
http://tipofthetower.com/2015/04/16/steve-nash-jamal-murray-make-jump-nba-right-now/
You're right, let's forget all about the entire 2012-2013 season, especially the month post-Noel ACL tear and being humiliated by Tennessee, the probation era, multiple seasons of mediocrity at the end of Tubby's tenure, two seasons of irrelevance and embarrassment where we lost to teams like Garner Webb and VMI. No, no, going to a Final Four and missing out on recruits, (In a class where we already had the #1 ranked player per multiple services.) ranks right there at the top of the list.
"Everyone's recruiting him," Blunt said. "He has a very long list. Because he's a really good student and a really good kid who comes from a great family. I think he's the total package."
DraftExpress.com moved Murray to the No. 18 spot in its 2016 NBA mock draft following his performance at the Hoop Summit.
Scout.com ranks him as the No. 27 overall prospect in the class of 2016, but it sounds like he might be in for a bump.
"Jamal is gifted," said Scout.com director of recruiting Evan Daniels. "He's better than I think I've given him credit for. I was just impressed by how he stepped up and really competed at a high level against high-level competition.
"I thought he was tremendous in the practices and scrimmages. And then he went off in the game."
Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2015/04/16/3804759/next-cats-the-secret-is-out-on.html#storylink=cpy
DraftExpress.com moved Murray to the No. 18 spot in its 2016 NBA mock draft following his performance at the Hoop Summit.
Scout.com ranks him as the No. 27 overall prospect in the class of 2016, but it sounds like he might be in for a bump.
"Jamal is gifted," said Scout.com director of recruiting Evan Daniels. "He's better than I think I've given him credit for. I was just impressed by how he stepped up and really competed at a high level against high-level competition.
"I thought he was tremendous in the practices and scrimmages. And then he went off in the game."
Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2015/04/16/3804759/next-cats-the-secret-is-out-on.html#storylink=cpy
Here is another article talking about him getting MVP honors in a losing effort in the Jordan classic international game a year ago.
http://northpolehoops.com/2013/04/1...e-mvp-at-jbc-international-game/#.VUw0etm9LTo
http://northpolehoops.com/2013/04/1...e-mvp-at-jbc-international-game/#.VUw0etm9LTo
Consider RELATIVE expectations from that point, the point post-Sutton and heading into the NCAA Tournament THIS year. Night and day. I wouldn't call the last month a failure for UK, but disappointing? Absolutely.
Disappointing after the Noel injury, with what was an average team anyway? It just meant we didn't get a potential magical NCAA Tournament run. Realistically, after that injury, there were no expectations, and it was a fluke injury and not something that can really be second-guessed like coaching, game plan, approach, etc...
No way there are 26 players better than him in the 2016. Every time I watch that clip package from the NHS, I am just amazed. IMO, he would be the 3rd best recruit in Cal's tenure at UK. Possibly 4th. Forgot about Boogie.
I hope we are really in the game with this kid,but I won't even bother to believe it is possible till he picks a number he is going to wear at UK
This piece at draft express has not been updated but you can see they thought highly enough of him to be a top 25 pick way before any "just one all star game" performance.
Read several places that he is a lottery pick right now.
Click on his stats link and read the tweets that he was mentioned as being most impressive along with Diallo. But yep according to our hillbilly experts on here he sucks.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article...-Basketball-Without-Borders-Global-Camp-4820/
Read several places that he is a lottery pick right now.
Click on his stats link and read the tweets that he was mentioned as being most impressive along with Diallo. But yep according to our hillbilly experts on here he sucks.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article...-Basketball-Without-Borders-Global-Camp-4820/
I really want the kid as well (obviously) he is one off he most well rounded prospects I've seen play. He can pretty much do it all, in the last year his handles have gotten better and he is an oustanding passer especially from the side of the court where he can see angles going on a fast break. I think with his ability to score at will at any phase may it be off the dribble to the hole, midrange or long distance and his passing he would be outstanding as a 2 in our offense as he would be able to create like a pg.
I know many on here are tearing their hair out and on their knees screaming to The Lord on a revelation on how 3 guards can play at once lol. But that is one thing about our O that can be done easily as you saw with Wall and Bledsoe together etc.
The point goes to the basket and dishes to the 2 or 3 and they have a shot at the basket or drive to the hole themselves and see if they can get a layup or pass the ball just as the long does. It's very easy in a dribble drive to have several guys on the court who can create and dish.
So easy a caveman can do it.
Surprised nobody is here blasting him in this thread after I took the time in posting links about his game and what professionals think now after actually seeing him play.
If Steve Nash watched him play and says he's ready to be a nba player now that is saying something.
Doubt he is ready to contribute much as I type but after some sdjustment time in the DL he would be a force to be reckoned with. Would be ala Curry but a little bigger and prob not as great as a shooter but close.
If Steve Nash watched him play and says he's ready to be a nba player now that is saying something.
Doubt he is ready to contribute much as I type but after some sdjustment time in the DL he would be a force to be reckoned with. Would be ala Curry but a little bigger and prob not as great as a shooter but close.
aaaaa no , just no. Briscoe is better right now . Briscoe IS the best guard since Knight IMO though. Wall then Knight then Briscoe in that order. Murray would be behind him though maybe though Lamb was badass.
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