False. Football is more popular at every level. Except college. And that’s only because we’ve never had this kind of football success at UK before. We’ve always been the only basketball first school in the SEC, but that’s quickly changing. Fans like you will just have to get used to it.
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I love both, but Cal is a problem with fan interests. When he’s gone, and we hire a guy that’s always putting UK first, beating early big games, schedules UNC, Michigan, maybe Ohio State etc, the fans will be ready. This is all on Calipari to stop his methods and be our coach, but until he’s over the “Godfather of the NBA player”, basketball will continue to decline.
It just shows the different levels of expectations when the 2017 and 2019 elite 8 seasons are viewed as failures by people like the op. Uk has 4 titles I'm 60 years and 12 final fours in 60 years. Calipari had 1 of those titles and 4 of those 12 final fours his first 6 seasons and overall still compares better than the 50 years prior to his arrival with 3 titles and 8 final fours in that time frame. My point is uk hasn't
been super dominant since the 40s and 50s.
Attendance is a big issue everywhere in every sport so not sure that is an indictment on uk and calipari.
Football has definitely been on an upward trend since 2015 but still has a ways to go to compete for sec and national titles. I hope Stoops stays and can get them to that level. Sec is so tough though and the next step is to beat tn and FL in the same season or tn and uga or FL and uga. Need to win 2 of 3 and go 10 and 2 to compete for the probable 12 team playoff down the road.
been super dominant since the 40s and 50s.
Attendance is a big issue everywhere in every sport so not sure that is an indictment on uk and calipari.
Football has definitely been on an upward trend since 2015 but still has a ways to go to compete for sec and national titles. I hope Stoops stays and can get them to that level. Sec is so tough though and the next step is to beat tn and FL in the same season or tn and uga or FL and uga. Need to win 2 of 3 and go 10 and 2 to compete for the probable 12 team playoff down the road.
Again, it’s been repeated over and over. But it’s like talking to a fence post.
By your logic uk hasn't been a power in basketball since 1958. I guess they weren't from 66 to 75 and 84 to 93 and 98 to 2011 and 58 to 66 and so on. You are cherry picking. This isn't new for uk.
And next year it will be Stoops must win 10 games. If he started winning 10 every year then some on here would want him replaced because he can't win the big one. Never ends.
Expectations, like I said. Tubby won a title and was ran off. In fact, Cal has missed two tournaments since he's been here including that shit show last year. Tubby never missed the tournament and was still ran off. So yeah, expectations matter.
if you're referring to number one classes, previous coaches didn't need number one classes to compete. They were actually x and o coaches who knew how to manage the game.
Same thing that happened to Cal. He won big at the beginning and now he is no good. Can't get the best players and can't win anymore. Need to replace him now.
Its not about that. Calipari is the leader of ruining college basketball home and homes. He was the first to want all neutral court games, and now others have followed suit.
Calipari was saying this is his vision of college basketball moving forward in 2006. Hears it come straight from his mouth at a luncheon and then again several times over. He created this, just like he changed K’s approach to recruiting. He’s a revolutionary.
Until Cal decides Kentucky and the fans come first, it’s going to get worse. And it doesn’t matter if Bass, or KL, or Cal first types of fans like it or not. That’s why this is happening, and it’s going to continue.
I mean let’s be real, Cal laid the groundwork for this by first convincing the fans that the regular season doesn’t matter. So now we have a month of scrimmage type games when the season starts.
He then dismantled the idea that the SEC tournament matters. So now no one cares about that.
Now it almost feels like since he can’t win in the tournament, next he’ll say the tournament doesn’t matter because THIS IS FOR THE KIDS TO GO PRO!!!!
He’s lowered our quality of basketball and now fans are beginning to care less and less as football improves.
The only way a UK fan can’t see this is if hes got’m by the balls with his salesman routine. I’m a UK fan.
Can't tell if sarcastic or not, but after last year his ass should at least be on the hot seat. That just isn't acceptable.
Wrong. This is thrown around as his excuse and it makes no sense.
Ever saw one of their posts that was? I haven’t.
No KL, I just know that eventually you’ll grow up and it’ll all make sense to you.
He’s your hero, but we’ve gotta worry about UK at some point.
College basketball has been dead for about 15 years, no need to kick the corpse. Only boomers watch and the ratings and crowds reflect that. Football would have always been the top draw here if UK had put money into it to begin with. And that goes for anywhere. If a school is evenly moderately successful in football, it will get more attention than basketball.
I've gotten way more into football. It's so fun that every game means something.
I'm also bored with basketball scheduling. The champions classic is cool and the knock off one, and the big12/sec challenge, but I feel like we never play in early season tournaments and playing poop state gets old. I mean I get you have to do a lot of those amd everyone does...but f'n schedule Gonzaga. They will accept to play.
Amd why is a blueblood constantly on sec+
I'm also bored with basketball scheduling. The champions classic is cool and the knock off one, and the big12/sec challenge, but I feel like we never play in early season tournaments and playing poop state gets old. I mean I get you have to do a lot of those amd everyone does...but f'n schedule Gonzaga. They will accept to play.
Amd why is a blueblood constantly on sec+
I think this has merit, but I do think it’s overplayed. Football will always be the most popular sport, but when college basketball is operating correctly, it’s very popular. The problem is the current coaches are butchering the sport. It’s why Roy wanted out and didn’t even say bye.
They need to fix the rules, and have coaches like K and Cal make it exciting again. What’s happened here is in pursuit of maintaining their jobs for money, they’re sacrificing the enjoyment. If that’s how it’s going to be, set rules in placeX kick them out, and bring in guys who want to put a good product out there.
Even when it was popular it did miniscule numbers compared to football. Outside of March Madness, no one watches. Hell, G5 games with MAC opponents pull in higher ratings than UK/Duke regular season games. No one watches that crap even when it was big. you were just brought up in a state that pushes that narrative. But now ratings and all that data is easily found on the internet. And you can see no one watches until March Madness. And after opening weekend, the ratings go back down. Regular season college basketball barely does better than infomercials.
Its soooo loooooong to get into this.
Cal is lying when he says nothing can be done. He single handedly ended it himself, he wanted them gone. He said so over and over. I was sitting 2 tables behind his when he ranted for an hour at Central in Memphis about changing the landscape of college basketball to reflect the NBA, and how traditional home and homes don’t help because of recruiting. He wants an NBA feel to college ball, and he doesn’t want the headache of heading to Chapel Hill, or even South Bend, and having to win those games because with his raw rosters, he can’t.
Where the line should have been drawn was on Indiana, but I know he’s convinced everyone the opposite so I won’t right that one.
UK fans, largely, weren’t paying attention to him back then. I’ve always said, UK fans just don’t get the guy. For whatever reason, Memphis fans get him a lot better. I think it’s because of the front end success.
If he can’t change it now, then I don’t know. It might be a runaway train. But he did cause it, and it’s hurt the game big time and it might not ever recover. I’ll always hate him for that, seeing proud UK fans cheer him on as he butchers our pastime….I hate it.
Hopefully, he hangs another banner and the next coach ends this. We get the titles, some good pros in the HOF, and can look back fondly. Our next guy just needs to be a blood and soil traditionalist to get everyone back to normal.
It’s in the TV contract. Every SEC school has to have a couple games on the streaming apps.
In 2020 Kentucky was ranked 8th in the final poll and set to be at worst a 2 seed. To say Cal has not been producing in 5 years is just ignorant. In 2019, we lost in the Elite 8, meaning we were one of the best 8 teams in the country. In 2017, we lost on a last second shot to eventual champ North Carolina in the Elite 8. So, we sucked last year. As soon as our football team is one of the best 8 teams in the country 3 out of 4 years, you can make your argument, but it hasn't happened in this old man's life, and I doubt it will before I'm gone.
You seriously don’t think Cal can control the OOC schedule? C’mon Cat, I know you better than that. What’s up?
I was born and raised in Tennessee man, but that’s why I say it’s overplayed. UT fans love basketball, they all follow around here. Football is just so popular we don’t notice.
I’m just saying we need better rules in place, and an understanding with the programs, that the fan experience is necessary or we won’t even have a sport to follow.
You are right. Cal cares nothing about his players and UK. Got it.
I can support both sports at the same time. 🤔🤔🤔. It’s not that hard.
Since you referenced me, you can never watch a game again for all I care. Deadwood over the side. Bye
I support both sports…. And occasion women’s Bball and baseball.
but IMO football is more fun for the fans
