I am super optimistic

[Col. Angus]

It's just a number and means nothing. Accept it.

I do accept it. It was simply when I dug into it a few years ago the top 5 players stood out from most, those are usually the cream of the crop, and Cal had been having great success with em. Again, it has to be 5 because that’s a good smooth cutoff and 4 doesn’t work. How is that hard to understand? I know you get it. I feel like you’re just trolling the shit out of me. I’m impressed.

The number means nothing. The players inside of the number mean everything.

Deal?

Exactly.

Five is not the magic cutoff.

Except it has been. John Calipari has not made the Final Four in the one and done era without a composite top 5 recruit. He’s done it without a composite top 4. See why it’s important? I know you get it. I have faith you get it.

 

[bucsrule8872]

Only one time it’s been 6.

Outlier? Deal?

Ya'll crazy. Just won't give it a rest. LOL!

You have to have a number, I get it, have at it.

There's just nothing magical about the number five, though.

 

[Col. Angus]

Ya'll crazy. Just won't give it a rest. LOL!

You have to have a number, I get it, have at it.

There's just nothing magical about the number five, though.

Nobody’s ever said there’s anything magical about it. That would be silly. Numbers can’t be magical.

 

[Wildcat_JC]

Ya'll crazy. Just won't give it a rest. LOL!

You have to have a number, I get it, have at it.

There's just nothing magical about the number five, though.

Thought the magic # was 8....Laughs

 

[kyjeff1]

It’s not just what you would do, it’s what they ALL do. I don’t know why people are acting as if this is not common knowledge. The top 5 kids in each class is reserved for the best of the best. After that the next 10-20 recruits are essentially just thrown into the wash.

I understand a guy like Fox can be considered of that tier in hindsight. That’s far from the point. And I believe Fox’s composite ranking was 6th, 1 spot outside of this category.

It’s not about the number. It’s just that the transcendent talent usually falls around that tier.

Now after 10 years we have Cal with 4 final fours and not ONE of those final four teams didn’t have a composite top 5 recruit. Lol. They simply don’t want to let this go. They’re arguing about Cals coaching ability, we’re arguing something totally different.

A few have always wanted to believe that freshman can dominate and Cal can dominate with them. They’re subconsciously arguing a point none are making.

Goodness.

You know, I think you and @Col. Angus are correct when you say the people battling you on this are more defending Cal than anything, but we are clearly not knocking on Cal. It's just a fact that Cal has not been to a FF when he doesn't have at least one top 5 guy.

That doesn't mean Cal sucks, hell, there is no coach that could do what Cal does. He at least gets them on the doorstep more times than not. What he does is incredible, but getting a freshmen oriented team to a FF without a top 5 talent is ridiculously hard.

UK 2017 should have been there, anyone using Fox is using a bad example. That team was thin in the front court, they had national championship ingredients, but they got derailed by one chicken shit referee.

I think even the biggest Cal/UK hater would agree with that after watching that game.

 

[CatfanMike47]

Agree 100%. There are years where a guy ranked in the teens ends up being better than anybody ranked in the top 5. There are years when there are 2 guys that are locked in at 1 and 2, and the rest of the class there is a big drop off, but what the hell, they have to number a guy in the 3,4,5 and so on, when in reality you could throw a blanket over 3 thru 10-12. It all really boils down to 1. How strong the class is overall, and 2. what a teams need is and if they are able to land one of the elite guys at that position of need. Like last year for example, we where good at the guard spot, whe needed a elite big man. Even if the guy was the number 10 ranked prospect, it COULD have pushed UK over the mountain. Some years it is the opposite, how many years where we good every where except the wing position and did not land a guy that fit that need?

Montgomery was ranked #10

 

[Col. Angus]

You know, I think you and @Col. Angus are correct when you say the people battling you on this are more defending Cal than anything, but we are clearly not knocking on Cal. It's just a fact that Cal has not been to a FF when he doesn't have at least one top 5 guy.

That doesn't mean Cal sucks, hell, there is no coach that could do what Cal does. He at least gets them on the doorstep more times than not. What he does is incredible, but getting a freshmen oriented team to a FF without a top 5 talent is ridiculously hard.

UK 2017 should have been there, anyone using Fox is using a bad example. That team was thin in the front court, they had national championship ingredients, but they got derailed by one chicken shit referee.

I think even the biggest Cal/UK hater would agree with that after watching that game.

Welp now you’re sucked in. Welcome. Buckle up tight.

 

[kyjeff1]

Welp now you’re sucked in. Welcome. Buckle up tight.

I've been saying these things for a long time. I know these aren't the most popular opinions, but the numbers and proof don't lie.

 

[CatfanMike47]

Bj Boston and another unnamed recruit is visiting next week! Jalen Green visit shortly after!

 

[Wildcat_JC]

Bj Boston and another unnamed recruit is visiting next week! Jalen Green visit shortly after!

Fletcher is set to visit 8/1

 

[Wildcat_JC]

 

[Col. Angus]

Bj Boston and another unnamed recruit is visiting next week! Jalen Green visit shortly after!

 

[CatfanMike47]

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Please God let Boston commit on his visit!

 

[Col. Angus]

I want Boston, Christopher, and Green and I think Cal gets it done.

 

[Cardsstink]

you guys can jaw all you want but as for me I am not happy with a final four. should we lose that fifth game in the tournament I Will kick the dog and curse our top ranked player

Joking about kicking a dog is low rent.

 

[CatfanMike47]

I want Boston, Christopher, and Green and I think Cal gets it done.

I’m hoping so!

 

[Wildcat_JC]

Boston, Christopher,Green,Fletcher,Steward,Todd and 1 maybe 2 others

 

[bucsrule8872]

The premise is fine. I know Cal needs the best players for his system to work.

I just can't agree that the number five is the special cutoff every year.

 

[CatfanMike47]

Boston, Christopher,Green,Fletcher,Steward,Todd and 1 maybe 2 others

Steward is Duke bound been a Duke lean for awhile! I think we still get Todd along with Omuruyi

 

[Col. Angus]

Joking about kicking a dog is low rent.

Dave isn’t rich so.

I just can't agree that the number five is the special cutoff every year.

So far it has been.

 

[bucsrule8872]

I would like to see us get at least one of Green, Clarke, Boston, and Christopher.

Got to get at least one, hoping for two. Three is not out of the question.

We would be stupid good with all four plus Todd. Run with those five and play small ball and try to outscore everyone by 20. LOL!

 

[ScrooDook92]

Cue the incoming "this was a strange / weird recruitment" comments

 

[bucsrule8872]

Dave isn’t rich so.


So far it has been.

LOL!

It's a scientific fact! Case closed!

 

[morgousky]

Joking about kicking a dog is low rent.

 

[morgousky]

LOL!

It's a scientific fact! Case closed!

Up until now, it’s scientific fact.

 

[Col. Angus]

LOL!

It's a scientific fact! Case closed!

I'm not wrong.

You’re one of my favorite posters man.

 

[bucsrule8872]

I'm not wrong.

You’re one of my favorite posters man.

Respect!

 

[davekersey]

it's good that we are getting a visit from Green

 

[kennycat1]

Good lord. This thread. Smh

 

[Bill Withers]

Joking about kicking a dog is low rent.

That's an old saying, not really a joke. And Dave is old. Cut him some slack. He didn't use the "N" word or anything. Geez.

 

[Cardsstink]

That's an old saying, not really a joke. And Dave is old. Cut him some slack. He didn't use the "N" word or anything. Geez.

Yeah because I was equating kicking a dog to the N word..... geez.

It’s an old saying, but a bad one.

 

[morgousky]

Yeah because I was equating kicking a dog to the N word..... geez.

It’s an old saying, but a bad one.

@Cowtown Cat im glad he missed the dog thread.

 

[Col. Angus]

That's an old saying, not really a joke. And Dave is old. Cut him some slack. He didn't use the "N" word or anything. Geez.

For what it’s worth I’ve actually seen Dave kick a dog in person. It was an annoying little chihuahua (which may not even qualify as an actual dog anyway). It was trying to bite his ankle.

 

[Cardsstink]

@Cowtown Cat im glad he missed the dog thread.

I’m still wondering how you have that “full life” you brag about when you spend 12 hours a day here 365 days a year.

 

[morgousky]

I’m still wondering how you have that “full life” you brag about when you spend 12 hours a day here 365 days a year.

Pulled 5 hours at work Friday, made 3 grand on two sales, pulled out my phone and said hello rafters!

 

[Cardsstink]

For what it’s worth I’ve actually seen Dave kick a dog in person. It was an annoying little chihuahua (which may not even qualify as an actual dog anyway). It was trying to bite his ankle.

Yawn.

 

[morgousky]

Yawn.

What’s worse than a chihuahua in one trash can?

The same chihuahua in 10 trash cans at the same time.

 

[Cardsstink]

Pulled 5 hours at work Friday, made 3 grand on two sales, pulled out my phone and said hello rafters!

Yeah sure. I’m doing a 50k deal as we speak while eating a waffle.

 

[morgousky]

Yeah sure. I’m doing a 50k deal as we speak while eating a waffle.

And ON RAFTERS.

 

[Col. Angus]

Yawn.

Iknowrite