That’s pretty good research right there. Funny that the 4 teams returning 3 or more starters just happen to be the 4 best teams he’s ever coached.
I am super optimistic
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That’s pretty good research right there. Funny that the 4 teams returning 3 or more starters just happen to be the 4 best teams he’s ever coached.
You know.
Freshman
Freshman
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Became a 5th freshman when WCS got hurt in the NCAAT.
So freshman freshman freshman freshman freshman, one of which being a composite top 5?
@bucsrule8872, I believe this dismantles your argument.
Maybe the assistants we’ve got now just simply aren’t as good as what he had the first 5 years. But that would necessarily mean Cal doesn’t have much impact on recruiting, which is hard for me to believe. I am decidedly not a conspiracy theorist (people talk), but notion that the combination of K coaching the national team and Nike pushing kids to Duke resonates. I disagree with ideas expressed earlier in the thread that Cal just needs to publicly push back/fight against all that. I can’t see how that accomplishes much. Reminds me of what I used to see on Louisville boards, when some of their fans insisted Louisville coaches, administrators and others needed to publicly fight Calipari’s corruption.....
Very possible. Maybe they've slipped. Who knows. They aren't bad at their jobs. But Cal can't do everything. Some of these guys need to lay the ground work. I found myself often times asking myself, as we struggled with top recruits and some basic fundamentals: what exactly are these assistants doing? I sort of get the sense that Cal does more than most head coaches, and these guys are kind of his buddies.
And I agree, there isn't much Cal should say, he'll come off as bitter. I don't even really like the subtle jabs he takes here and there. Never is a good look.
Oh, that’s right.
I’m going to look at who else was in that class and swap those two composite top 5’s with kids in the 10-20 range and see if people still think it’s a final four / title game team. Should be the same I mean these are just numbers. It doesn’t mean anything.
Edit: trade Randle and Harrison, composite top 5’s, with Rasheed Jordan (20) and Noah Vonleh (8/10).
That takes the final four off the table. Point again proven.
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I think Kenny Payne, Joel Justus are fine,not sold on Tony Barbee though.
Wasn't Aaron Harrison, the guy that hit the shot to send us to the Final Four, composite number six?
So we are clear that Cal needs experience AND talent to get to the Final Four?
2014 had WCS and P
Wasn't Aaron Harrison, the guy that hit the shot to send us to the Final Four, composite number six?
He wouldn’t have had the chance without the composite 2 in randle.
No it’s about the team. But if that team is void of upperclassman, history shows we better have a composite top 5 player.
Morg,
I know you will never give up.
Love to push your buttons, bro!
Love that you stay classy and never get your feathers ruffled.
You are a class act.
I know you will never give up.
Love to push your buttons, bro!
Love that you stay classy and never get your feathers ruffled.
You are a class act.
Thanks to the composite #2 putting the team in his back. Take him off, Aaron doesn’t get the chance. Pretty simple.
Agree for the most part. The good thing about this team is it will return more players than normal. If cal can land at least a 1 top 5 guy and his normal top 20 guys, it could be a great yr for 20-21. Cal is great at getting the most out of his players, but he needs to get a top 5 guy for 2020 that will help lead the amount of talent we will have coming back.
LOL!
Magic numbers again.
If Randle ranked number six, he loses his magic, even if Wall, Cousins, Knight, Davis, and Towns were 1-5.
It makes perfect sense.
Remember Highlander..."there can be only one." Except in recruiting, "there can be only five."
the net is ever-widening and I feel good about UK showing a lot of interest in Zaire Williams
Boston is coming in for a visit later this week, then Fletcher a couple of days behind him. Green supposedly will visit within three weeks. Dante is in class, lol, we'll see.
We should also know the status of Dante by the middle of August and it appears that LSU has no shot and right now I'd say 60% UK 40% Oregon just as a guess if the reclass happens at all
So you would put Randle at #6, but he would still be the same size, have the same strength and be just as skilled?LOL!
Magic numbers again.
If Randle ranked number six, he loses his magic, even if Wall, Cousins, Knight, Davis, and Towns were 1-5.
It makes perfect sense.
Remember Highlander..."there can be only one." Except in recruiting, "there can be only five."
You can't just put the #3 guy at #6 for the hell of it, there is a reason he was a top 5 guy. He was in a very small group that was better than the second tier of players.
But I know you were just yanking Morg's chain.
Not to speak for him but I think he’s saying you need a top 5 player if you’re trying to do it with primarily freshman and if you’re not getting the top 5’s you need to do it another way.
Yes but now he has changed and said he didn’t say you need top 5s. That you have to have returners or something. He’s wild
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Feel like this thread unintentionally ended up calling out Morgusky worse than Dave.
20%???? We'd all be fired from our jobs at a success rate of 20%, unless we're meteorologists.
I get what you’re saying but I think he’s of the mindset that if we are going to completely reload and have a brand new team (like next year where we are losing literally 98% of our scoring, entire starting 5, two to transfers and only return 1 dude who was mediocre/ slightly below mediocre) every year then we need the elites of the elites. Like a class comparable to the Wall class, Kat class etc...
Now if could have only returned IQ and Nick? Or IQ and EJ I’d be on cloud 9 and think we’re for sure in the discussion for a FF but losing all we lost and bringing in what we’re bringing in simply isn’t enough to make a legit final four run in my opinion. Clarke is elite yes, Boston is upper level but they won’t be enough imo.
How miserable would you have to be to get out of bed in April 2020 and fret about our chances of making a final four 1 year later. Some need to rethink their priorities in life.
Okay, you've repeated this a thousand times. We get it, you would rather talk about how awesome Calipari is. That's cool, but this is a discussion forum. This is a place where all things about UK basketball are discussed. You and Bass should just bypass these threads and go to the ones that are 100% positive.
Too Funny. I've said before that Cal is NOT the greatest coach, but this is entertainment for me and I'm enjoying it. You crack me up with your little internet bully act. I won't be crafting what I say to suit you. You sound mad again today like every day. Did you not find enough people on the internet today that would let you tell them how smart you thought you were? LMAO. PS, show one time that I said Calipari was "awesome" or even "great". You can't and you, as usual, are lying through your teeth to try and dismiss a poster. Weak sh*t, but par for the course. Same wimpy act with you every single day: "I'm smarter than you, I can outpost you and this board is about me and only me". #Clown
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Cal hasn’t missed the final four when he has a Top 5 player! With except of 13’ Noel year!
I am a let it play out guy. Cal is highly likely not done adding but we can all agree we probably, 95% sure we need to add at least 1 big to be serious contenders for FF or title next year. I still think we will be good either way and the tournament is so random you never know what may happen.
All that said there is a tremendous amount of talent coming in next season. Potentially two high level lottery picks, 3-5 range type of guys. Regardless of what is returning when you have two players of their size that can create their own shot and potential to dominate on both ends of the floor you have something. They get hot in a tourney game it is lights out.
If guys around them can do their job and we add a talented big anything can happen next season and as bad as it was to have so many leave this year the cupboard isn't bare.
It looks like there are some people to consider from a reclass, transfer or even from this class (Maker- who knows).
Add Sarr or Maker for example to this class and all will be well.
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