Humphries is turning pro

[Titles1]

And those others in 1939, 1940, 1941, 1942, 1943, 1944, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.

We had just as good of chance of winning as those years in all of those?

 

[Titles1]

I went through this thread fairly carefully - rather than the usual skimming - as I was trying to get a feel for who and how many posters were critical of this. And these two win the award for dumb comment of the day.

Pretty sure we've won more games than any program since Cal has been here. I know we've won more NCAA tournament games. By any reasonable metric - other than titles, and only one school has more than we do in that time frame - we have been the most successful program in the country since 2010. For anyone to think this program - of all programs in the country, for crying out loud - has suffered a "black eye" or has any "major problem" is either insufferably negative, a troll, or a drama queen. Take your pick.

By the way, out of nearly 160 posts, I count 6 guys who are critical of Isaac specifically (most under the delusion he plans to go to the NBA, when apparently he simply wants to go home) and 7 others critical of Cal. Like someone said, I guess Cal is supposed to get Isaac in a headlock, or maybe hold him at gunpoint to get him to stay. Like someone else said, for all the knuckleheads who insist Cal needs to get some 4 stars who will stay 3 or 4 years.....how do you explain this? Doesn't this show that players leaving early, no matter their high school rating, isn't predictable?

Anyway, the point is, as I've always suspected.....you can have a very few posters (here, less than 20 posts out of 160) create the impression they enjoy strength in numbers. Just lines of text rolling down a screen, makes it hard to get a good feel on whether they are a lot or a few.

Any reasonable metric, other than, the most important one.

 

[Wall2Boogie]

I didn't read through the 5 page love fest but isn't ironic hump chose "hump day" to announce his intentions

 

[BostonCat2001]

Any reasonable metric, other than, the most important one.

fans will just have to settle with being 2nd best then.

 

[harlancatfan]

I went through this thread fairly carefully - rather than the usual skimming - as I was trying to get a feel for who and how many posters were critical of this. And these two win the award for dumb comment of the day.

Pretty sure we've won more games than any program since Cal has been here. I know we've won more NCAA tournament games. By any reasonable metric - other than titles, and only one school has more than we do in that time frame - we have been the most successful program in the country since 2010. For anyone to think this program - of all programs in the country, for crying out loud - has suffered a "black eye" or has any "major problem" is either insufferably negative, a troll, or a drama queen. Take your pick.

By the way, out of nearly 160 posts, I count 6 guys who are critical of Isaac specifically (most under the delusion he plans to go to the NBA, when apparently he simply wants to go home) and 7 others critical of Cal. Like someone said, I guess Cal is supposed to get Isaac in a headlock, or maybe hold him at gunpoint to get him to stay. Like someone else said, for all the knuckleheads who insist Cal needs to get some 4 stars who will stay 3 or 4 years.....how do you explain this? Doesn't this show that players leaving early, no matter their high school rating, isn't predictable?

Anyway, the point is, as I've always suspected.....you can have a very few posters (here, less than 20 posts out of 160) create the impression they enjoy strength in numbers. Just lines of text rolling down a screen, makes it hard to get a good feel on whether they are a lot or a few.

Sunshine pumpers are always cute. Anytime someone disagrees with you they are trolls or drama queens, same old story. Sorry, not everyone warships this system that Cal has created, I know that hurts your feelings but it is a true story. You may love the numbers, but I love championships; and with the talent we have had there should be more, period.

 

[harlancatfan]

Yes.

If the decisions of 18 year olds who put a ball through a hoop greatly impact your emotions and/or daily life, then yes, it's sad. If the success of the UK basketball team helps determine your self worth, it's time to re-evaluate your priorities.

Then maybe you should not call yourself a fan bud. Seems like your heart aint in it.

 

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

This is so stupid. This is all on Cal for creating this POS culture where you turn pro after 1-2 years tops no matter how good or bad you were or if you can't turn pro then you just transfer. Cal will never see another title doing things like this. There's a very good chance that next year will end up like the 2016 season. Then we will probably lose about 4-6 more players, and 3-4 of those will likely have no business going anywhere.

The outrage isn't because Hump was going to put up big numbers next year, it's the fact that we keep losing the 4 year type guys that are critical to winning a title. If Hawkins had "gone pro" before last year a bunch of y'all would act like it's no big deal but the truth is that we don't become as good as we were this year or even make the elite 8 without him. We have to retain guys like Hump, Hawk, Matthews, Willis, Miller and so on. Cal will never win a title with a freshman dominated team. His best teams here have all had key upperclassmen.

So y'all can keep acting like this trend is no big deal and keep celebrating elite 8's and Final Fours but don't expect #9 anytime soon. Meanwhile our main rivals keep returning guys for their 3rd and 4th year that would have left UK after their 1st year, 2nd at the longest. Duke and UNC just keep slowly chipping away at the title difference. It'll be 8-8-8 before you know it.

This ain't your daddy's Kentucky Wildcats. Kids don't owe YOU or any UK fan a damn thing. Quitcher bitchin'. It ain't gonna change and the majority of us don't want it to change. We're happy to have a chance every year. The difference between most of us and YOU is we realize we were a last second shot from going to the 5th Final Four in Cal's 8th year here. But nah, jackwags like you think it's a cakewalk to the title. My guess is you never played one second of competitive sports on any level higher than elementary school or otherwise you would understand the degree of difficulty in playing high level sports such as college basketball. Your act is getting old.

 

[Mojocat]

Sunshine pumpers are always cute. Anytime someone disagrees with you they are trolls or drama queens, same old story. Sorry, not everyone warships this system that Cal has created, I know that hurts your feelings but it is a true story. You may love the numbers, but I love championships; and with the talent we have had there should be more, period.

doesn't hurt my feelings, at all. you want to dispense with any mystery and reveal yourself to be a knucklehead, that's up to you. you love championships, good for you. means you're miserable the vast majority of the time. which is self-evident.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

This ain't your daddy's Kentucky Wildcats. Kids don't owe YOU or any UK fan a damn thing. Quitcher bitchin'. It ain't gonna change and the majority of us don't want it to change. We're happy to have a chance every year. The difference between most of us and YOU is we realize we were a last second shot from going to the 5th Final Four in Cal's 8th year here. But nah, jackwags like you think it's a cakewalk to the title. My guess is you never played one second of competitive sports on any level higher than elementary school or otherwise you would understand the degree of difficulty in playing high level sports such as college basketball. Your act is getting old.

ohh goodie, a Final Four, 3rd and 4th place. The Final Four has become a crutch for many UK fans.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

I'm sad he's leaving.. but what other option did he have? The staff recruited over him. Yes, the argument can be made that Hump should then work harder.. but it's no guarantee next year. And Cal has proven to play the sure-fire NBA guys first to get him to the league. That's his model. And it's a great model, but sometimes it fails.

Not sure how anyone can be mad at Hump for this. What was he supposed to do?

 

[The_Answer1313]

Sunshine pumpers has to be by far the dumbest saying.

 

[harlancatfan]

We have only loss 4....Bam is not officially gone and the other 3 graduated. Geez you drama queens are smearing your mascara with all your weeping!

I was talking about Humphries being our 9th man off the bench

 

[Mojocat]

Any reasonable metric, other than, the most important one.

so among useful metrics UK is 1,2,1,1,1,1, and 1.

And you want to bitch about that.

And anyone disagreeing with that lunacy is a 'sunshine pumper'.

This feels like an episode of Homeland, and I'm lost in the Deep State and a room full of programmers have created thousands of bots, fake personas, fulfilling every stereotype.

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

We have only loss 4....Bam is not officially gone and the other 3 graduated. Geez you drama queens are smearing your mascara with all your weeping!

Aren't you and floatingcat just as sensitive and upset about people disagreeing with you?

 

[Mojocat]

Sunshine pumpers has to be by far the dumbest saying.

surprising, really, as they are otherwise so original......

 

[harlancatfan]

Stupidity is your friend I see. First off, he is probably going home. And play professionally there. Not the NBA. The fact that you do not know this is very sad and just shows how selfish you are. This young man made a decision for HIMSELF. So so sorry you're mad and not at all glad about it but that says more about you than it does Hump. IF you are not satisfied with Cal or think people have been "brainwashed by Cal or long for to have the Tubby years back, then I suggest you find another team. A majority of us are enjoying the ride. Or just quit watching, it seems the game has passed you by anyways.

But to my original reply to you, I asked sad for who. and you answered sad for yourself in so many words. Think about that if possible

I get it, you love losing our entire roster each year, and Cal is your hero. I have a passion for the Kentucky Wildcats, unlike you. You and the rest of your Cal defenders are like schoolyard bullies I have noticed, everyone must agree that Cal is the greatest or we get our lunch money taken.

 

[harlancatfan]

Aren't you and floatingcat just as sensitive and upset about people disagreeing with you?

No doubt about it brother.

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

Any reasonable metric, other than, the most important one.

And UConn and Duke both have two titles since Cal has been here.

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

I love the "We are fine" crowd because everything is always sunshine and rainbows with this crew. Overhype eveything and downplay losing upperclassmen like it doesn't hurt. It does.

We have never made a Final Four after losing everyone. It has never happened with Cal. 2013 is a great example of what we looked like after losing everyone (we returned Wiltjer which was better than anyone returning next year).

Even in 2016 when we returned basically just Ulis as a contributor, we couldn't even get to the Sweet 16.

2011, 2012, 2014 and 2015 all featured players who had contributed the previous year.

2011- Miller, Liggins, Harrellson
2012- Miller, Lamb, Jones
2014- Poy, WCS
2015- Poy, WCS, Dakari, Harrisons

 

[KYFOSSIL]

Aren't you and floatingcat just as sensitive and upset about people disagreeing with you?

Nope because you all are panicking and whining where as I'm being insulting and making fun of you to combat how annoying you are. Other words your the itch and I'm scratching. It's not cordial or nice or socially acceptable but it is the only way to respond to to you pansies. I probably should just ignore Harlan, Zaytohoven and others but just not there yet.

 

[Titles1]

ohh goodie, a Final Four, 3rd and 4th place. The Final Four has become a crutch for many UK fans.

Very sad. The goal is not the FF, it's titles. This is Kentucky.

 

[kev69]

So pathetically stupid that words can't describe it.

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

So pathetically stupid that words can't describe it.

Yeah, who needs a 7-foot junior who can shoot jump shots? We are going to have all 18 years olds. Totally going to be fine, according to this crew.

No, we will not. We need upperclassmen contributors and we have nothing now.

 

[Titles1]

Yeah, who needs a 7-foot junior who can shoot jump shots? We are going to have all 18 years olds. Totally going to be fine, according to this crew.

No, we will not. We need upperclassmen contributors and we have nothing now.

Cal apologists.

 

[kev69]

Yeah, who needs a 7-foot junior who can shoot jump shots? We are going to have all 18 years olds. Totally going to be fine, according to this crew.

No, we will not. We need upperclassmen contributors and we have nothing now.

Totally agree.

It's not as much fun being a fan as it used to be.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Very sad. The goal is not the FF, it's titles. This is Kentucky.

Yeah if we don't win it all year it is because of the Hump leaving. He had one good game in 2 years. This board is suffering from recency bias in the worst way possible lol

Good luck to Hump. Enjoy being back down under.

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

Yeah if we don't win it all year it is because of the Hump leaving. He had one good game in 2 years. This board is suffering from recency bias in the worst way possible lol

Good luck to Hump. Enjoy being back down under.

How many good games did Josh Harrellson have before the 2011 season?

 

[harlancatfan]

How many good games did Josh Harrellson have before the 2011 season?

Excellent point. It's strange how many on here are content with what's going on.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

How many good games did Josh Harrellson have before the 2011 season?

Harrellson only played because of Kanter not playing. I seriously doubt Hump would have payed much over the more talented and better basketball player in either Bam or Bamba next season.

 

[Hoskins21]

Very quick research shows Australian league salary average is about $70k.

IH basically has a 1% chance of FA NBA contract, so IMO it's obvious he's going home, making a good salary in his home country at 19 yo.

Maybe he develops playing ball full-time and gets in the NBA. If not then not a bad fallback.

Best of luck to Isaac.

Yeah, I can't believe the amount of stupidity in this thread. Apparently, some are unaware that there are OTHER PLACES to play professionally besides the NBA. I'd kill to start out making 70k+ without a college degree. I don't make that now and almost have a doctorate.

 

[harlancatfan]

Yeah, I can't believe the amount of stupidity in this thread. Apparently, some are unaware that there are OTHER PLACES to play professionally besides the NBA. I'd kill to start out making 70k+ without a college degree. I don't make that now and almost have a doctorate.

Think about this, Justin Jackson and Grayson Allen just completed their 3rd year of college hoops, both of whom play tons of minutes in both of their first two years and put up big numbers. We just lost a guy that hardly ever got on the floor! What dont you sunshine pumpers see about that?

 

[Titles1]

Yeah if we don't win it all year it is because of the Hump leaving. He had one good game in 2 years. This board is suffering from recency bias in the worst way possible lol

Good luck to Hump. Enjoy being back down under.

Would be in the position to go to ot if Maye missed it, of he didn't play well?

 

[Titles1]

Think about this, Justin Jackson and Grayson Allen just completed their 3rd year of college hoops, both of whom play tons of minutes in both of their first two years and put up big numbers. We just lost a guy that hardly ever got on the floor! What dont you sunshine pumpers see about that?

Whenever anyone questions Cal you hear:
"Do you want Billy Clyde back?"
"We've won more games than anybody during his time here."
"It's hard to win a title."

 

[UK90]

Oh Humphries, you are nowhere close to an NBA-ready level.

He knows that. This is not about the the NBA. He's leaving to go home and play in the Australian League.

And it's a decision that makes good sense for him. He'll make nice money (as opposed to zero at UK), get to play in front of his family and lifelong friends (as opposed to 10,000 miles away), live by those beautiful sunny Aussie beaches, and have a damn good life. Good luck to him.

 

[harlancatfan]

Whenever anyone questions Cal you hear:
"Do you want Billy Clyde back?"
"We've won more games than anybody during his time here?"
"It's hard to win a title."

Yea, those are the front lines of their defense. I love the Billy Clyde one especially because it is like, if Cal were to leave, we could only hire another horrendous coach...There are no other good coaches out there, its Cal, or, someone on Clyde's level.

 

[BostonCat2001]

Yea, those are the front lines of their defense. I love the Billy Clyde one especially because it is like, if Cal were to leave, we could only hire another horrendous coach...There are no other good coaches out there, its Cal, or, someone on Clyde's level.

almost as predictable as "he could end up like josh harrelson" line.

 

[KYFOSSIL]

I love the "We are fine" crowd because everything is always sunshine and rainbows with this crew. Overhype eveything and downplay losing upperclassmen like it doesn't hurt. It does.

We have never made a Final Four after losing everyone. It has never happened with Cal. 2013 is a great example of what we looked like after losing everyone (we returned Wiltjer which was better than anyone returning next year).

Even in 2016 when we returned basically just Ulis as a contributor, we couldn't even get to the Sweet 16.

2011, 2012, 2014 and 2015 all featured players who had contributed the previous year.

2011- Miller, Liggins, Harrellson
2012- Miller, Lamb, Jones
2014- Poy, WCS
2015- Poy, WCS, Dakari, Harrisons

How many good games did Josh Harrellson have before the 2011 season?

And you Debbie Downers run around scream doom and gloom and proceed to bitch all year long instead of giving it a chance to playout. People were down o. This year team even during the winning streak and were a ref screw job and last second shot by a role player from the FF. Yes we had key seniors but they were Freshnan dominated. You say NEVER but this has hardly ever been the situation as you have pointed out so why not see what our roster is first and then let's see how the season plays out.

 

[kev69]

He knows that. This is not about the the NBA. He's leaving to go home and play in the Australian League.

And it's a decision that makes good sense for him. He'll make nice money (as opposed to zero at UK), get to play in front of his family and lifelong friends (as opposed to 10,000 miles away), live by those beautiful sunny Aussie beaches, and have a damn good life. Good luck to him.

I guess my question is, why not just do away with high school and college basketball all together?

What's the point?

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Would be in the position to go to ot if Maye missed it, of he didn't play well?

That was the one good game I was talking about. He played great against UNC.

People are freaking out over a guy who was not going to play much next year. I'd rather have SKJ back as he has more of an upside...if he can solve whatever ailed him this year. I feel something more than his lack of skill kept him sidelined.

 

[KYFOSSIL]

Think about this, Justin Jackson and Grayson Allen just completed their 3rd year of college hoops, both of whom play tons of minutes in both of their first two years and put up big numbers. We just lost a guy that hardly ever got on the floor! What dont you sunshine pumpers see about that?

And how did that work out for Duke. Bad rep, scandals and losing to a 7th seed. There will be a team for UK this year and either support them or go elsewhere because they are who they are or ultimately will be and none of your bitching can change that. We have had an incredible 8 years with Cal and even your dumbass should see that.