I've disagreed with you a lot this year but I believe you thoroughly enjoyed the UCLA thrashing and thought we were screwed versus the cheaters.
Humphries is turning pro
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Disagreed about what exactly?
Yeah, I was in Memphis and enjoyed the win against the Bruins. And all three refs screwed us out of a final four berth in the Cheats game.
So, again, what are you disagreeing about?
Neither of them are half a world away from home. Both have lost tons of money by returning. The longer you stay the less the pay. What about that don't you idiots on this board understand?
Isn't free education, worth tens of thousands of dollars btw, food and lodging for free, national exposure for free, and the personal training, coaching, and ability to make connections worth something?
Nope. Not as much as hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars most are making after they leave here. When they leave they're making connections, being coached by good coaches, and making a living. Sorry you don't want that for them.
It makes sense to me. He's not likely going to be an NBA player anyway. He can however make a name for himself at home, maybe make the Olympic team, and then retire having made a very good living.
As a fan I can see why it is also a very emotionally charged issue. He would have been a great presence as a leader of the team from the standpoint of being there for the new guys to show them the ropes. I wish him well because in the end his leaving doesn't truly affect my life. Kentucky is a great program and will continue to be great well after Humphries career is over wherever that is.
As a fan I can see why it is also a very emotionally charged issue. He would have been a great presence as a leader of the team from the standpoint of being there for the new guys to show them the ropes. I wish him well because in the end his leaving doesn't truly affect my life. Kentucky is a great program and will continue to be great well after Humphries career is over wherever that is.
No. I call myself an adult.
It's a f-ing game, not life or death.
I saw us cut down the nets in New Jersey in 1996 and San Antonio in 1998 in person live in the arena. I saw us fall to Michigan in 93 and left the old Hoosier Dome very disappointed in 1997.
So kindly take that "I'm a bigger fan than you" nonsense and stick it you know where. I just know how to control my emotions and don't let something I have ZERO control over affect me personally.
I don't have a huge issue with certain players leaving but guys like Hump can be key pieces for us down the road. You're dreaming if you don't get that.
As far as what he wants, fine. I'm not his dad, I'm a UK basketball fan. This is not the development league for European basketball. This program means more than that. How I feel.
As far as what he wants, fine. I'm not his dad, I'm a UK basketball fan. This is not the development league for European basketball. This program means more than that. How I feel.
I mean Hump played 21% of the mins last season.
With the possible addition of Bamba and the possibility that bam might come back, he wouldn't have gotten much more mins next year than he did this one.
With the possible addition of Bamba and the possibility that bam might come back, he wouldn't have gotten much more mins next year than he did this one.
Bingo.
Like almost everyone else, I think it's cool when players develop for 3-4 years. But after 35 years of watching this stuff, I absolutely KNOW that you are better off with more talent.
If anyone wants to see Exhibit A of that, go watch the 93 FF game against Michigan. In the 6 games from the SEC Tourney through the Elite 8 that year, UK looked like the most finely honed machine you could possibly hope for with a college team. Michigan, OTOH, pretty much stumbled through that tournament, looking completely unfocused and bored, lucky not to get knocked out.
In that FF game, though? It was blatantly obvious that Michigan had the physical edge on UK, and that UK was going to need Michigan to break down mentally to win the game. Or that Jamal Mashburn, the one guy on their level, was going to need to dominate (and he almost did). They were just bigger, faster, and stronger all over the floor.
Give me a choice between what UK had in 93, and what Michigan had, I take Michigan. Harder to coach, bigger level of variation in performance, but the ceiling is just a lot higher.
Hump means almost nothing to UK's title hopes for next year. Yeah, he could be useful, and yeah, in certain situations he could become Jorts 2.0. But the reality is that, if UK really wants a shot at a title next year, then UK needs someone more gifted than Hump on the floor.
What is kinda confusing and makes me feel like this all is a bit agenda driven. Is that if the prospect of being over recruited by Bamba and pushed even further back by Richards had of made Hump transfer not one person would be bashing him or Cal. Their would be a few saying i wish he would wait til we know for sure. But not one person outside of the few crazier posters that would be saying a thing. We prob should be excited I would say this is confirmation of either Bamba signing or Bam coming back. If Hump hadn't of mentioned the NBA and just said over seas would so many be criticizing. I don't think hump is crazy enough to think he would get drafted but u can sign deals that pay way more than average in the d league. Maybe as much as he could make in Australia. Do you people forget the kid is 19 years old. A 7ft with a decent outside shot. Maybe worth a couple hundred grand a year to see if he develops.
Because I know the board is waiting for my opinion , and I've made ya wait 6 pages I'll say my thoughts are pretty random. I get why he chooses to leave , get to go home , make some cash playing in some league around his home area , But if you cant see the humor in bench warmers at UK turning pro to get playing time then I guess your sense of humor isnt in line with mine . Just that line of " he has so and so playing in front of him so go pro to get some PT " thats just comic gold , but there are a certain number of Big Blue Bloods who think it blasphemy to ever question anything at all . Speaking purely as a selfish fan I wish he would have stayed , gives us depth and experience , and you cant teach 7'0 . We lost what could have been a valuable part of next years team ,and next year I get to read " wait til March " about our youngin's again. I'll be there rooting them all on , just wish we some experience coming back .
lol no reason to lose those games.
Two of those three teams were also good.
Losses happen.........shit.
Not nearly as good as the teams we had those years.
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Not a crutch dumazz. Like I said, if you've played any competitive sports other than pocket pool, you would know. Your takes are ignorant. You need to learn the game.
Good to see we can have a conversation without cursing at people. Top notch stuff.
When you're substantially better than the other team you should win. No excuse for the wis game, period.
Look at this. Seems like the vast majority of time when you see comments like this, it's the same profile. One of these jokers joined this board 2 weeks ago, has less than 150 posts. The other one joined Thursday, has less than 100. Why would such devout, lifelong fans join this board now? Either they are trolls, or they are intolerably miserable "fans", only living to complain about some perceived slight, always whining about how life's not fair.
Why engage in either case?
I didn't realize my fandom was related to when I joined a message board. I'm definitely disappointed in the amount of titles we've had under Cal, given the talent we've had.
We weren't "substantially better" tho. In 2014 we were a 1 point favorite. 51% chance of victory. In 2015, we a 3 point favorite. 65% chance of victory.
See that's the problem more than anything. People massive overrate the difference between teams IMO. It's almost as if we forget that in 2014 we were an 8 seed and really had no business playing in that title game. That year was an over achievement, not under. And while we played better at the end of the year, it took Aaron Harrison again and again to even reach that game. 2 point win over Wichita St, 5 over UL, 3 over Michigan, 1 over Wisconsin....I mean any of them could have gone against us.
The only cases that can be made is 10,12 and 15. That's it. And 12 we won a title. In 10, we weren't even the overall number 1 seed. We clearly didn't have a "substantially better" team that year, In fact if I remember many people that year was upset because they felt WVU deserved a 1 seed over Duke.
In 15 we had the best team. But it wasn't as if Duke and Wisconsin had bad teams. Wisconsin had a historic season on offense that year. Since 2002 when efficiency stats have been kept, Wisconsin 2015 has had the best offense not just that year but in that entire span.
And lastly it's sports. Things happen. That's why we watch the games. Upsets happen
Humphries played half of his college career here already and isn't on one reliable mock draft site out there. The same for Briscoe. The odds of that changing after two more years is pretty low. They might as well go make money instead of wasting two more years in school.
All I see are a handful of whiny, crybabies who are only satisfied with a title every year, and who exhibit no depth of thought or comprehension.
Wait, so you think we are substantially better? Then what is the reason we didn't win? According to you, how Cal is doing it isn't working, so just how were we substantially better? Sounds like somebody wants it both ways.
Great post! Wisconsin was a great team and the loss of Poythress left nobody to guard Dekker. The John Wall team is my favorite of all time, but they had a fatal flaw and in a one game scenario it bit them.
Yes, and Dekker was abusing Booker, which is why Cal didn't play him more. Everybody who thinks he should have been playing in that game never mention that.
We also didn't have the most talent nearly every season during those 12 years as we have with Cal so our expectations were much lower. Those tournament losses bothered me much less than some of fhe ones under Cal.
Booker not being in wasn't the problem. Ulis should have been in.
"how little the average fan knows about the dynamics of UK basketball" ? Maybe, but seems more like "how a young man who is not even remotely close to being a professional basketball player" makes a very poor decision.
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