How bad do we beat Duke in Nov and who guards Flagg?
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Yeah, I expect he will be Zion level good. I cann't think a big will guard him on perimeter. He for sure would eat them alive. That is why I think when in man you have to looks at a physical wing on him. Someone who is fast and strong. Even if they give up some height, they could be disruptiv out top. I just don't know if any of our bigs are quick enough to deal with him on perimeter.
Not a chance, he’s gonna be the number one pick fairly easy IMO. He’s gonna have to have a ridiculously bad year to stop that and his performance with the team USA select team shows he can already play with the best players.
Williams is good, but Flagg is a unique talent, we don’t want Williams chasing him on the perimeter he will get burnt.
Flagg is the real deal. He is a matchup nightmare.
I expect that Pope will try lots of different strategies throughout the game trying to contain him.
I expect that Pope will try lots of different strategies throughout the game trying to contain him.
I don’t know but you can ask the dudes he plays against, I’m sure they can help you out.
Doesn't sound like we have anyone who can handle him, but that will be a problem for most teams.
I'd almost say focus on stopping the other guys as one guy isn't going to beat you most of the time.
I'd almost say focus on stopping the other guys as one guy isn't going to beat you most of the time.
Flagg is really really good. At Duke almost every team they play will get touch fouls called on them when Flagg attacks the basket which is why you have to make him take jump shots. You want to win the game, you dare Duke to take 3's and long 2's. If they make them and you cant hit your shots then its GG, tip your hat and hope for a different outcome in the tournament at the end of the year. But knowing the refs will send that kid to the line constantly duke and he will get more points per possession than if you just let him have open shots.
I think if we can turn the game into a 3pt shooting contest, we'll have the advantage.
I think if we can turn the game into a 3pt shooting contest, we'll have the advantage.
I'm preparing myself mentally for the barrage of discussion, closeups, and family shots in the stands for this game, for Flagg. As others have said I think they'll have different strategies to make him uncomfortable. Around his favorite areas to shoot I expect doubleteams and hedges to guide him toward our bigs so they can potentially block his shot.
Wish last year was when UK played Duke. I thought last year's Duke team sucked. Was never/am not a fan of Flip and they were slow and had crappy guard play. Only reason they made Elite 8 is Sean McManus at CBS Sports was retiring and his gift was that bracket. Just a putrid bracket and if Houston's PG didn't get hurt-they'd have lost there. Was hoping they'd have been placed in UConn's Region out East and gotten a UNLV in '90 like beating.
This year I think they'll be very good and a contender. They are athletic and really like the roster makeup on the wings--with Kneuppel and Harris as shooters. Not as big of an Evans fan, but they have bodies. I also don't view Malauch like most-think he's a bit stiff, but he's better than Ryan Young who was playing for whatever reason and like the kid they got that was teammates with Harris in HS--reminds me of that Nova Center Daniel Ochefu. Flagg is going to be a great player. Hope for UK is that Tyrese Proctor thinks he's the star and plays like...well to this point Tyrese Proctor.
This year I think they'll be very good and a contender. They are athletic and really like the roster makeup on the wings--with Kneuppel and Harris as shooters. Not as big of an Evans fan, but they have bodies. I also don't view Malauch like most-think he's a bit stiff, but he's better than Ryan Young who was playing for whatever reason and like the kid they got that was teammates with Harris in HS--reminds me of that Nova Center Daniel Ochefu. Flagg is going to be a great player. Hope for UK is that Tyrese Proctor thinks he's the star and plays like...well to this point Tyrese Proctor.
Williams may be the best big in America defensively. If any big can, its Williams.
I’m actually more interested in how UK can possibly exploit him on defense. Put him in pick and roll and pick and pop all night and make him make decisions and guard out in space.
He’s offensively gifted but I’m hoping Pope exploits him defensively all night long. Make him make reads in PNR defense and see if he’s willing to chase guys, hedge appropriately, and make rotations. Because physical strength and team defense will not be his strongest attributes that early in the season.
He’s offensively gifted but I’m hoping Pope exploits him defensively all night long. Make him make reads in PNR defense and see if he’s willing to chase guys, hedge appropriately, and make rotations. Because physical strength and team defense will not be his strongest attributes that early in the season.
True but if UK puts the wraps on Flagg from scoring Duke wont be able to beat us.
I think it’s going to be tough to completely contain him. But it will be easier if we make him work on defense.
BTW I think Oweh is the best bet to match up with Flagg but we’ll need a full team effort on defense. I think Flagg will struggle with someone that physical.
I don't think Flagg will be anywhere close to Zion on the offensive end. Zion was one of the most efficient scores we will ever see in college. Defensively he will be better than Zion was. He will get a bunch of points on dunks and in transition if we don't guard him well. Think Oweh will get the first chance guarding him but it will be a team approach.
We put Carr on Flagg to start he's 6-9 195 Carr is 6-11 227 and I think can give him fits from inside and outside. If Carr can't guard him I think this is Almoror's game to shine at 6-7 232 he's perfect to guard Flagg after all he did a great job on the caveman from Purdue Edey. This is not a great matchup for Duke. We're deep, experienced and I'd say more disciplined then them oh and we shoot better.
I appreciate the props. Yes, when I state my opinion, I do like to give the reason behind it, a lot of posters just post but do not provide anything to back their opinion. You bring up some very valid points, however, Flagg is not a big body at 6-9. He is only 190 lbs. and is more of a finesse player. Flagg gets most of his blocks from off the ball, help defense, not bodied up against his man. he is not strong enough to play against stronger, more physical players. He has range out to the 3 point line shooting, excellent passer, and runs very well. He is better suited being able to move around on offense and use his passing to prevent double teams. By putting him on the block down low, it hurts his ability to play to his strengths. Think of a former UK player Tayshaun Prince, he was 6-9 and only 190. He was too weak and slender to play the PF position, he was most suited playing the wing, just because a guy is 6-9, doesn't make him a PF. Flagg is actually listed as a SF, not based on how tall he is, but his game.
I appreciate the civil discussion, both posters providing valid points and neither ignore the others opinion. It is what message board discussions are SUPPOSE to be about, but we both know way too many times, it is not the case.
Sounds like maybe the best way to slow his offense may be run screens on offense till he is on someone much stronger than him and isolate him and let him pick up fouls trying to guard someone?
We better beat them early because by the end of the season I fully expect them to be the favorites to cut down the net. All this talk about Flagg and I feel the guy you better be watching is Maluach. He can defend, rebound, and really seems to be coming along as a shooter. Only been playing basketball for 4-5 years.
They have just enough veteran leadership, look to have a possibly really good defensive team, and their freshmen, especially the top 2, project to be future NBA all-stars. Scheyer put together a very good team.
They have just enough veteran leadership, look to have a possibly really good defensive team, and their freshmen, especially the top 2, project to be future NBA all-stars. Scheyer put together a very good team.
JMU also lost their best player early in the game. I think they likely get past JMU regardless, but you never know. Jon Scheyer kind of was gifted a pass for last year, but that very well could have turned into a disastrous year.
It's amazing how just a single injury here or there can totally change the outcomes in March, and therefore change the narrative around the team, the players, and the coach. What if UK had kept facing teams with injuries to their best player? We probably walk to the Elite8 as well, DESPITE the fact that we still had a lot of issues with the lineup and coaching.
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