Bigblue, There's alot more people damaged by alcohol than most know, it's just not as fast or apparent as other drugs in most cases.
Bigblue, There's alot more people damaged by alcohol than most know, it's just not as fast or apparent as other drugs in most cases.
Wow, so sorry for your losses.Drugs period is a very depressing thing and does hit close to nearly everyone. I had a uncle die with $700,000 in his banking account and a needle in his arm, he od'd on Dilaudid. My older brother who was married for 20 years, went thru a crushing divorce, and had a motorcycle wreck and died while under the influence of the same drug. My aunt and uncle came upon the wreck 15 minutes after it happened and identified him at the scene. My youngest brother od'd on Morphine, he had it legally for serious pain suffered. He took too much, od'd and wife thought he was just asleep. he abused it, and by the time she realized he wasn't just asleep, he lost too much oxygen to the brain, died in his sleep. That is 3 people very close to me within a 5 year period. While I did recreational drugs in a social setting, I saw the shit first hand and it affected me directly with their deaths that I knew it was not a path I wanted to go down. By the way, this is 9 years ago with my uncle, 7 with my oldest brother, and 4 with my youngest. My kids are terrified about the abuse drugs can and do to you. If there was any silver lining from my personal and up close loss to the shit, my kids are also witness to the outcome and hopefully never, ever even let the thought enter their minds to do it. It is not 100% lock they won't, but I can only hope they do not, it is a very huge and very deadly epidemic. I can relate and deeply feel for those of you who have lost loved ones from any kind of drug abuse. Don't really feel comfortable putting all that out there about my personal life, but maybe it will help guide someone reading this away from the terrible grips that drugs can put on someone no matter the social or economic status.
February 5th will mark the one year anniversary of my oldest son dying from a heroin overdose.
At one time, he was on the President's List, and the Dean's List at EKU. Some of his professors, and friends alike, said they believed him to be a genius. He wasn't TOO smart, because his entire family tried everything we knew to do to get him into rehab. He went once, stayed four days, walked out pronouncing himself "cured." He was dead one month later.
I've always advocated, if someone is caught dealing heroin they should get a minimum of 25 years in prison. JMO.
I understand the guys who got addicted to pain pills because of injury and then switched to heroin because they were cut off. But the people who started using heroin only, c'mon. That was the one drug they always told you never to do because of how bad it could end up being for you. So my question for you guys who either have kids, brothers, cousins, friends, etc who are hooked on it is this: how did they get started on these things?
February 5th will mark the one year anniversary of my oldest son dying from a heroin overdose.
At one time, he was on the President's List, and the Dean's List at EKU. Some of his professors, and friends alike, said they believed him to be a genius. He wasn't TOO smart, because his entire family tried everything we knew to do to get him into rehab. He went once, stayed four days, walked out pronouncing himself "cured." He was dead one month later.
I've always advocated, if someone is caught dealing heroin they should get a minimum of 25 years in prison. JMO.
Thanks JD, much appreciated. No parent should outlive their child, it's the most heartbreaking thing ever, IMO.Holy shit Welder. I can't begin to tell you how terribly sorry I am to hear that.
Personally, I would like to see drugs legalized. Sell them out of gov't ran and regulated stores just like the ABC stores in some states. Use the profits after operating costs to fund "real" rehab for people who want to get clean. Make the unauthorized manufacture and distribution of drugs punishable by death.
Thank you.That's terrible! Truly sorry!
I honestly think the war on drugs fails because it doesn't address the issue. Much like the poster thinking alcohol is worse the war on drugs can not decipher the different degrees in which drugs impact society.
Heroine is the worst! Meth/Crack would be next then Coke etc. But I know a lot of functional drunks, and I do not know a single functional heroine addict or abuser. That's all you need to know.
Born and raised in Richmond, and it's still a nice place to live...if you live in a good part of town of course.Detroit literally came down and took over Richmond. I assume Lexington, too, but richmond is small enough that you know everything that goes on. There was a stretch where they were arresting multiple guys from Detroit every damn week. They ran a hotel on exit 87 right off the interstate, and another at the Athens exit next to the strip club. The police did a good job of running them out of here. They don't operate out of the hotels at least.
That's terrible! Truly sorry!
I honestly think the war on drugs fails because it doesn't address the issue. Much like the poster thinking alcohol is worse the war on drugs can not decipher the different degrees in which drugs impact society.
Heroine is the worst! Meth/Crack would be next then Coke etc. But I know a lot of functional drunks, and I do not know a single functional heroine addict or abuser. That's all you need to know.
I definitely am not saying heroine isn't a problem. It is a huge problem. Especially when it involves a family member. I just think alcohol causes problems that are far more reaching. Maybe not as fast as a drug like heroine. Unless you drink and drive and kill yourself and others.
My dad was physically and mentally abusive because of his drinking. He hit me (one of many times) upside my face so hard that I had bruising all over my face by my ear. I was to scared to tell the teachers what happened and lied and said I was hit by a baseball. My mom was afraid to do anything out of fear for the longest time. That kind of stuff will take a toll on you and change you.
Just this week a woman that works with my wife was fired because she was drinking on the job. The same woman has been talking about suicide. Her issues seem to stem from relationship problems that led her to drinking. It is a shame that drugs/alcohol is out there and we even have to deal with addictions/abuse.
I'm sorry alcohol abuse has affected you in this way, but this a very naive and ignorant post. You must be loving under a stone if you don't know anyone with a family member on heroine. We have 5 families at our church. A lady has her great grandchildren living with her because her grandson and his wife have been living in a tent for 4 years now. They can't get off heroine.
Holy shit Welder. I can't begin to tell you how terribly sorry I am to hear that.
Personally, I would like to see drugs legalized. Sell them out of gov't ran and regulated stores just like the ABC stores in some states. Use the profits after operating costs to fund "real" rehab for people who want to get clean. Make the unauthorized manufacture and distribution of drugs punishable by death.
How in the world can you think making heroin legal and accessable to that degree is insanity
OK, maybe a dumb question but how is Neurotin in that category? I know it's not narcotic, so I guess I'm missing something. Genuinely want to know, thanks in advance. WW.I see it in court every day. What was once Oxy, Zanax and Lortab is now turning to a big 3 of Meth, Heroin and Suboxone abuse. A good helping of Neurotin thrown in. I wish it was just alcohol or weed.
I'd say 70-75% of DUI's I see are drug related, not alcohol
How in the world can you think making heroin legal and accessable to that degree is insanity
Did you read the rest of my post? Heroin is currently illegal. Someone posted that it was hard to get. That you had to "know a guy who knows a guy". My cousin's son once told me in effect that he "knew several guys who knew several guys" and that with a phone call he could get a fix within 20 minutes. In a nutshell, it's not hard to find. People are going to use it.
My suggestion is to make it, and all drugs legal. Have them manufactured to meet certain standards. Sell them out of gov't run/regulated stores, just like alcohol is in some states. To get them you have to show a vaild ID. Use the profits after operating costs to fund REAL rehab for people who WANT to get clean. Make the ILLEGAL manufacture or distribution/sale of drugs punishable by DEATH, with the only exception maybe being a very low level dealer who has to turn in his source to settle for life in prison instead of the death penalty.
I read it, and it's still insane as is this post
Did you read the rest of my post? Heroin is currently illegal. Someone posted that it was hard to get. That you had to "know a guy who knows a guy". My cousin's son once told me in effect that he "knew several guys who knew several guys" and that with a phone call he could get a fix within 20 minutes. In a nutshell, it's not hard to find. People are going to use it.
My suggestion is to make it, and all drugs legal. Have them manufactured to meet certain standards. Sell them out of gov't run/regulated stores, just like alcohol is in some states. To get them you have to show a vaild ID. Use the profits after operating costs to fund REAL rehab for people who WANT to get clean. Make the ILLEGAL manufacture or distribution/sale of drugs punishable by DEATH, with the only exception maybe being a very low level dealer who has to turn in his source to settle for life in prison instead of the death penalty.
It could be argued that those dealers are in fact knowingly, while not intentionally of course, selling a product that has a higher than average chance of killing the buyer. More often than not, the seller isn't the filth that cooked the stuff up, so he doesn't know if it's "average", or very potent.I'm right there with you on making all drugs legal, and taking total control over the manufacture and distribution. I'm also right there with you on offering free rehab for addicts. We part ways on the death penalty for black market dealers. Let's save that penalty for those that intentionally take lives, not hand it out to those that sell a product.