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Quade is my most hated player in recent memory and I'm so happy he will be gone (better be...he fooled me last time).

But he doesn't "deserve" that hate. He's not even close to Dom Hawkins good, but if he worked his tail off to get better and contribute, had a positive attitude, he could be a nice addition to this team as an 7-9th man.

(but I mostly hate him because bbdk sucked his wang sooooo hard because short people are fn weirdos and have some sort of short people "code" they abide by)
 
See? Quade is a 4 year dude and has the potential be a very good college player, but he has ZERO desire to stick around actually do that here. We have a team very similar to an early 2010’s UNC that if they stick around will be great in a couple of years but Cal has created this atmosphere that if you’re not gone after year 1, you’re a bum. Now watch Quade go have a nice career for 4 years at DePaul and be perfectly content. This is what’s frustrating. Tyler Herro, Ashton Haggins, Immanuel Quickly, EJ Montgomery is a final four team next year and the year after. None of them will be back.


While his ballhandling has been awful, He's shooting 42% from 3, in very limited minutes...8 & 10 minutes each of the last 2 games on a team that DESPERATELY needs shooting while Herro is out there going 0-37 from deep. He easily had an important role on this team if utilized properly.

Don't blame him, Cal has hated him from Day 1. Now he can go somewhere else, develop, and have a nice normal college career.
 
I could talk myself into this being a little bit of "addition by subtraction". While it sucks to see Cal lose yet another sort of decent veteran, Quade was never going to play here, almost left last spring, and *something* is off with this team.

I'm fulling willing to attempt to convince myself that Quade's attitude was dragging this team down.

I've gotta admit, I'm kind of disappointed that Nick Richards isn't transferring too.
 
Exactly. Everyone wants the best of the best recruits AND very good 2-4 year players. Can’t have both but we right now we do have the latter. But the problem is these dudes get here and the entire message is NBA NBA NBA REACH YOUR DREAMS GENERATIONAL BILLIONAIRE NOT HERE THOUGH THIS IS JUST THE AIRPORT TERMINAL HEY WHAT ARE YOU STILL DOING HERE CATCH THAT PLANE BABY GO DO YOUR THING!! and that works great when you’re getting the Zions and Rj Barrett’s but when you’re getting Herro and Haggins and EJ maybe we reign some of that in and focus on the development and program building. I realize that’s blasphemous but other schools do this and it works nice. Sorry this Quade news is just exactly what’s been chapping my ass since approx 2016.
 
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If he had kept wearing these glasses he'd be in the NBA right now.
 
While his ballhandling has been awful, He's shooting 42% from 3, in very limited minutes...8 & 10 minutes each of the last 2 games on a team that DESPERATELY needs shooting while Herro is out there going 0-37 from deep. He easily had an important role on this team if utilized properly.

Don't blame him, Cal has hated him from Day 1. Now he can go somewhere else, develop, and have a nice normal college career.

see :joy:
 
Our expectations of Green were probably unreasonable based on his ranking coming out of HS. He was a 5-star guard but was undersized, not all that quick with the ball, couldnt really create for himself, and was an above average shooter... But he can still be a good college basketball player in the right setting. Maybe on a team that runs an offense.

Its whatever. Hope he does well.
 
Dunno, just feel like it's up to a HOF coach to find a way to maximize/utilize a guy HE RECRUITED rather than toss him to the side once it's learned that he's not elite or OAD. Again, especially given the ONE thing he can do (shoot) is something that once again we're one of the worst in the country at doing.

This goes for a lot of guys who've passed through here, one of which is well on his way to being an All American this season on a Top 5 team fresh off the National Title Game.

Transfers happen, but ours are as predictable as Tax Time ---> unless you're a KY boy or OAD, it's transfer time - and that's bullshit.

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When you spend a decade publicly marketing your program as the best, fastest and most profitable path to NBA riches, this is the inevitable result.

Cal needs to change his marketing strategy, obviously, but at this point I don’t know how or even if he would do it.
 
Maybe he could put in a call to Roy Williams or Jay Wright or Bill Self or K or basically anyone of these coaches that seem to keep players of similar caliber for longer than a single season?
 
You guys clamoring for Cal to "change his strategy" have any compelling evidence to support why he would be successful in doing so?

He's approached the college game virtually the same way since he arrived in Memphis. Recruit elite talent, hope it's enough. Roster building and player development focus simply isn't who he is, and nothing really tells me he's equipped for it in a "tradtional" college basketball program way. He certainly doesn't seem to be interested in it.

The question is two parts: Will he change, and can he be good at it?
 


Was the staff not expecting Quade transferring part of Tucker's article because that's honestly baffling.
 
Doesn't seem like much of a 'strategy' change to simply NOT run guys off who are on a typical 3-4 year college track. Can guarantee you he didn't bat an eye when Charles dropped by the office to tell him he was considering transferring - probably offered to make some calls before he even finished his sentence.
 
Cal: Damnit Tony I told you to talk to Quade, I don't have time to deal with him.

Tony: (is asleep/possibly dead?)

Joel: Hey John, I've reached out to Quade multiple times via email to gauge his interest in the team and keep track of his vitals...

GD SHUTUP JOEL YOU'RE FIRED!!!!

^ best case scenario here.
 
Quade looks of disdain for cal when he was screaming like a maniac was all of us. Good luck to him.

Cant wait to be deadlocked withe utes on sat and watch PJ flex on a rebound. I need SOMETHING on saturday to like this team. Its not how a fan should be.
 
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Simply keeping this roster for another year would be the most beneficial thing to him, the players, and the program as a whole. If future Kyle tucker tweeted about next season and it was full of this years roster I’d be fine. That would help create a culture that sometimes it takes a year or 2 or 3 AND THATS OK. That’s f*cking LIFE.
 
Quade green got a raw deal because a lot of people expected him to be or at least be in the same mold as Tyler Ulis.

Instead he is the anti Tyler Ulis.
 
By “change his strategy,” I mean stop making the NBA the focal point of his program. It’s everywhere. When you first walk into the Craft Center, on all the pregame promos, every time he gives an interview, etc.

I get that it is a good sales pitch, and I get that he cares about the kids’ success, but the drawback is that when Quade Green or Charles Matthews or Marcus Lee or SKJ looks up after a couple of years and he isn’t in the NBA, he starts thinking “this place was supposed to get me to the league ASAP but it didn’t so let me hit the reset button.”

Of course, none of this would matter if he were landing the Barretts and the Zions of the world, but he’s not.

And this is the result.

(Also, it wouldn’t hurt if he would calm the F down on the sidelines.)
 
- The problem with this particular team is that no one can create their own shot or create shots for others. I think Hagans has the potential to do that, but his mindset/skillset are limiting him right now. In my opinion, that's why the offense is stale. Run a bunch of Horns sets with elbow entry or dribble handoff to the wings. Well, if there is no one out there for the D to really respect, you get to play off of the them and clog everything up. Basically, pay attention to your off-ball D and just shadow D the guy with the ball. Man, we'd have trouble scoring 40 against Virginia.

- However, maybe we do have guys that can create, but we just don't get to see it until the second month of their NBA season. I got into a little twitter spat with an "analytics coach" out on the west coast that was pumping up Fox and how much of a leap he has made. He made a comment about guys that come out of "that particular program" not knowing how to play the game when they arrive in the league. I called him out on it, but by damn he could be right. Seeing Hami become a legit rotation guy this year helps his cause.

- I don't really know what I'm talking about because I probably haven't watched 60% of the actual game time so far this year.

- Can't beat a good Cuban sandwich. Often times overlooked in this part of the country, it's my go-to choice of sammy at any BISTRO worth a flip.
 
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Re: WWC (from April)

I watched it in its entirety the first weekend it came out. Obviously. Don’t @ me.

Sorry you guys want to talk about it now, though.

I got married at NYC City Hall on SantaCon weekend, our immediate families attended.

Transferring through Grand Central with everyone, around 4pm, surrounded by galavanting, debacherous Santas and elves was an experience we’ll all cherish forever
 
You guys clamoring for Cal to "change his strategy" have any compelling evidence to support why he would be successful in doing so?

He's approached the college game virtually the same way since he arrived in Memphis. Recruit elite talent, hope it's enough. Roster building and player development focus simply isn't who he is, and nothing really tells me he's equipped for it in a "tradtional" college basketball program way. He certainly doesn't seem to be interested in it.

The question is two parts: Will he change, and can he be good at it?
Outside of DRose his best Memphis teams were loaded with Juniors and Seniors including the DRose team.

I think he could be good at it but not sure he will change back to what he had success with at Memphis and UMass.
 
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Ultimately, Cal's marketing pitch has screwed him with Kentucky fans. Billy Joe Wildcat is all about John Wall, Anthony Davis, etc coming here for a year as a stepping stone for greatness if it means that UK wins some games while they are here.

But absolutely no UK fan wants to hear that shit if the on-court results are just ok and we come off more as an NBA halfway house than an actual college basketball team.
 
Pretty bummed about it to be honest. Liked Quade, he's been all over the place this year, but would've been a nice upperclassman asset.

Glad Cal took the high road. Way to go buddy, make sure you text him Happy Birthday when he's dropping 30+ for Temple next winter.

Dude isn't lying when he said, "this isn't for everyone."
 
Some UK fans will spin this as positive or not so bad but this just sucks and I haven't been this down on UK basketball since like March of 2014.
 
TJ Beisner has a son on the UK football team (and a younger son who Quade befriended at a cookie shop).

I figured he was about 25 tops. Good genes.

This is probably - no, definitely the best UK season since 2012 because we are in the Citrus Bowl *cal voice: like whaaaaa??!*. This UK basketball season can’t possibly be as heartbreaking as some of our recent exits, so that’s good. Also the first time in ever I’ve straight up not known when we played, or just disregarded the game against these early crap teams. Wish I could ignore some of these upcoming games, but that’s not happening. I’ll just grit my teeth and think about Terry, Josh, Benny, Lynn, Kash, Mike, etc.

Then we’ll probably get beat by PSU and it’ll be FTBGE for a long while. But that’s OK.
 
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