Apparently this has been in development for awhile and other countries actively use it.
Government Weather Modification aka Cloud Seeding
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Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Weather Manipulation Claims Backed by Science — Must Read Deep Dive into History of Weather Manipulation — Shocking Facts Revealed! | The Gateway Pundit | by Cara Castronuova
Marjorie Taylor Greene was right.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Man your search history and google algorithms must be insane
The author of that article makes a number of claims about our ability to control the weather and then provides links to the sources behind each of those claims.Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Weather Manipulation Claims Backed by Science — Must Read Deep Dive into History of Weather Manipulation — Shocking Facts Revealed! | The Gateway Pundit | by Cara Castronuova
Marjorie Taylor Greene was right.
But what I find most interesting, is that the sources seem to say the exact opposite of what the article’s author says.
For example, the author of the article states that “Project Cirrus of 1947 attempted to modify a hurricane off the coast of Florida only to artificially redirect it to demolish parts of Georgia.”
But when you read the source article, it says that project Cirrus had zero effect on the hurricane. Which would make sense intuitively. All they did during Project Cirrus was drop 80kg of dry ice into the clouds on the edge of the hurricane. The source article even goes as far as to say it’s laughable to believe that 80kg of dry ice would be capable of disrupting a hurricane.
I’m not sure how the Gateway Pundit author could screw that up so badly.
I know they use Silver Idodide to make it rain. Supposedly it causes ice crystals to form and then disperse which produces rain, or some stuff like that. Canada uses it to reduce hail storms.
It is also toxic and some surmise that increased seeding has something to do with increased allergies. idk.
It is also toxic and some surmise that increased seeding has something to do with increased allergies. idk.
And the firmament. Just look at Werner Von Brauns tombstone. It’s so obvious, they aren’t even trying anymore
Is it best to nuke a hurricane or use space lasers on it? I’ll hang up and listen.
I do have to give my boy BigSexy credit though - dude started the original COVID thread in like 2018
The only correct answer is Sharpie’s. You can alter a hurricane with those every time.
If you look at her "credentials" it makes total sense.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/author/carac/
175 lbs of dry ice. That seems well thought out. I like that they wanted to aim it at Georgia instead of back into the gulf as well.
Weather modification is absolutely real
Normally referred to as geo-engineering now
There are various systems & methods that were developed over decades
Ground based systems - satellite platforms - aircraft that can directly alter cloud composition - older patents feature ship based designs that create chemical laced updrafts
i had exactly one (1) direct interaction with the HAARP site in AK while in the AF
Their website at that time was ".mil" and openly listed offensive capabilities they could employ. - so that site is enormous - over 200 antenna type devices - its called a research facility now but you CAN use it to heat large swaths of the atmosphere & ocean as well
It can disrupt / EMP a ground based target and radically alter the electrical properties of the atmosphere -
Russia and China have similar sites
China openly bragged about artificially manipulating the weather when they had the Olympics
I can totally understand why it would sound strange to anyone who hasn't considered the idea
Military technology inherently features operating systems that people just don't know about -- directed energy weapons would be another operational, non-classified weapon type that many ppl would still consider "far fetched" ?
Then you have actual classified weapons or classified varieties of weapons - and that includes various compartmentalized levels of secrecy
THEN there's stuff in development or low rate initial production
and finally - more concept level systems that are IR&D or possibly DARPA research
Point is - it shouldn't surprise anyone that capabilities exist that you've never heard of
There's definitely a portfolio of weapons - defensive systems - electronic / electromagnetic / nanotechnology and neurological based weapons on line - and at the disposal of our CINC and Sevices
I have provided extensive links in the global climate change thread if anyone wants to see - those are all public facing / objective sources
US Patents are a good place to start if you're genuinely interested in getting an overview of some of the things developed over time -
That's an inherently reliable source that includes an abstract/overview - design blueprints or electronic schematics and details regarding various methods of deployment- including possible chemicals used and their effects
I will respond a second time below this post to provide a list of US patents that go back to the 1950's -- all related to various methods of weather modification
Normally referred to as geo-engineering now
There are various systems & methods that were developed over decades
Ground based systems - satellite platforms - aircraft that can directly alter cloud composition - older patents feature ship based designs that create chemical laced updrafts
i had exactly one (1) direct interaction with the HAARP site in AK while in the AF
Their website at that time was ".mil" and openly listed offensive capabilities they could employ. - so that site is enormous - over 200 antenna type devices - its called a research facility now but you CAN use it to heat large swaths of the atmosphere & ocean as well
It can disrupt / EMP a ground based target and radically alter the electrical properties of the atmosphere -
Russia and China have similar sites
China openly bragged about artificially manipulating the weather when they had the Olympics
I can totally understand why it would sound strange to anyone who hasn't considered the idea
Military technology inherently features operating systems that people just don't know about -- directed energy weapons would be another operational, non-classified weapon type that many ppl would still consider "far fetched" ?
Then you have actual classified weapons or classified varieties of weapons - and that includes various compartmentalized levels of secrecy
THEN there's stuff in development or low rate initial production
and finally - more concept level systems that are IR&D or possibly DARPA research
Point is - it shouldn't surprise anyone that capabilities exist that you've never heard of
There's definitely a portfolio of weapons - defensive systems - electronic / electromagnetic / nanotechnology and neurological based weapons on line - and at the disposal of our CINC and Sevices
I have provided extensive links in the global climate change thread if anyone wants to see - those are all public facing / objective sources
US Patents are a good place to start if you're genuinely interested in getting an overview of some of the things developed over time -
That's an inherently reliable source that includes an abstract/overview - design blueprints or electronic schematics and details regarding various methods of deployment- including possible chemicals used and their effects
I will respond a second time below this post to provide a list of US patents that go back to the 1950's -- all related to various methods of weather modification
Some US Patents For Various Methods of Weather Manipulation:
2614083 – October 14, 1952 – Metal Chloride Screening Smoke Mixture
2633455 – March 31, 1953 – Smoke Generator
2688069 – August 31, 1954 – Steam Generator – Referenced in 3990987
2721495 – October 25, 1955 – Method And Apparatus For Detecting Minute Crystal Forming Particles Suspended in a Gaseous Atmosphere
2730402 – January 10, 1956 – Controllable Dispersal Device
2801322 – July 30, 1957 – Decomposition Chamber for Monopropellant Fuel – Referenced in 3990987
2881335 – April 7, 1959 – Generation of Electrical Fields
2908442 – October 13, 1959 – Method For Dispersing Natural Atmospheric Fogs And Clouds
2986360 – May 30, 1962 – Aerial Insecticide Dusting Device
2963975 – December 13, 1960 – Cloud Seeding Carbon Dioxide Bullet
3126155 – March 24, 1964 – Silver Iodide Cloud Seeding Generator
3127107 – March 31, 1964 – Generation of Ice-Nucleating Crystals
3131131 – April 28, 1964 – Electrostatic Mixing in Microbial Conversions
3174150 – March 16, 1965 – Self-Focusing Antenna System
3234357 – February 8, 1966 – Electrically Heated Smoke Producing Device
3274035 – September 20, 1966 – Metallic Composition For Production of Hydroscopic Smoke
3300721 – January 24, 1967 – Means For Communication Through a Layer of Ionized Gases
3313487 – April 11, 1967 – Cloud Seeding App
5357865 – October 25, 1994 – Method of cloud seeding
5360162 – November 1, 1994 – Method and composition for precipitation of atmospheric water
5383024 – January 17, 1995 – Optical wet steam monitor
5425413 – June 20, 1995 – Method to hinder the formation and to break-up overhead atmospheric inversions, enhance ground level air circulation and improve urban air quality
5434667 – July 18, 1995 – Characterization of particles by modulated dynamic light scattering
5441200 – August 15, 1995 – Tropical cyclone disruption
5486900 – January 23, 1996 – Measuring device for amount of charge of toner and image forming apparatus having the measuring device
5556029 – September 17, 1996 – Method of hydrometeor dissipation (clouds)
5628455 – May 13, 1997 – Method and apparatus for modification of supercooled fog
5631414 – May 20, 1997 – Method and device for remote diagnostics of ocean-atmosphere system state
5639441 – June 17, 1997 – Methods for fine particle formation
5762298 – June 9, 1998 – Use of artificial satellites in earth orbits adaptively to modify the effect that solar radiation would otherwise have on earth’s weather
5800481 – September 1, 1998 – Thermal excitation of sensory resonances
5912396 – June 15, 1999 – System and method for remediation of selected atmospheric conditions
5922976 – July 13, 1999 – Method of measuring aerosol particles using automated mobility-classified aerosol detector
5949001 – September 7, 1999 – Method for aerodynamic particle size analysis
5984239 – November 16, 1999 – Weather modification by artificial satellite
6025402 – February 15, 2000 – Chemical composition for effectuating a reduction of visibility obscuration, and a detoxifixation of fumes and chemical fogs in spaces of fire origin
6030506 – February 29, 2000 – Preparation of independently generated highly reactive chemical species
6034073 – March 7, 2000 – Solvent detergent emulsions having antiviral activity
6045089 – April 4, 2000 – Solar-powered airplane
6056203 – May 2, 2000 – Method and apparatus for modifying supercooled clouds
6110590 – August 29, 2000 – Synthetically spun silk nanofibers and a process for making the same
6263744 – July 24, 2001 – Automated mobility-classified-aerosol detector
6281972 – August 28, 2001 – Method and apparatus for measuring particle-size distribution
6315213 – November 13, 2001 – Method of modifying weather
6382526 – May 7, 2002 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
6408704 – June 25, 2002 – Aerodynamic particle size analysis method and apparatus
6412416 – July 2, 2002 – Propellant-based aerosol generation devices and method
6520425 – February 18, 2003 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
6539812 – April 1, 2003 – System for measuring the flow-rate of a gas by means of ultrasound
6553849 – April 29, 2003 – Electrodynamic particle size analyzer
6569393 – May 27, 2003 – Method And Device For Cleaning The Atmosphere
0056705 A1 – March 17, 2005 – Weather Modification by Royal Rainmaking Technology
6890497 – May 10, 2005 – Method For Extracting And Sequestering Carbon Dioxide
7965488 – November 9, 2007 – Methods Of Removing Aerosols From The Atmosphere
8048309 – August 28, 2008 – Seawater-Based Carbon Dioxide Disposal
8012453 – October 27, 2008 – Carbon Sequestration And Production Of Hydrogen And Hydride
7645326 – January 12, 2010 – RFID environmental manipulation
7655193 – February 2, 2010 – Apparatus For Extracting And Sequestering Carbon Dioxide
8079545 – December 20, 2011 – Ground based Manipulation and Control of Aerial Vehicle during nonflying operations
0117003 – October 5, 2012 – Geoengineering Method Of Business Using Carbon Counterbalance Credits – alternate link
8373962 – February 12, 2013 – Charged seed cloud as a method for increasing particle collisions and for scavenging airborne biological agents and other contaminants
2614083 – October 14, 1952 – Metal Chloride Screening Smoke Mixture
2633455 – March 31, 1953 – Smoke Generator
2688069 – August 31, 1954 – Steam Generator – Referenced in 3990987
2721495 – October 25, 1955 – Method And Apparatus For Detecting Minute Crystal Forming Particles Suspended in a Gaseous Atmosphere
2730402 – January 10, 1956 – Controllable Dispersal Device
2801322 – July 30, 1957 – Decomposition Chamber for Monopropellant Fuel – Referenced in 3990987
2881335 – April 7, 1959 – Generation of Electrical Fields
2908442 – October 13, 1959 – Method For Dispersing Natural Atmospheric Fogs And Clouds
2986360 – May 30, 1962 – Aerial Insecticide Dusting Device
2963975 – December 13, 1960 – Cloud Seeding Carbon Dioxide Bullet
3126155 – March 24, 1964 – Silver Iodide Cloud Seeding Generator
3127107 – March 31, 1964 – Generation of Ice-Nucleating Crystals
3131131 – April 28, 1964 – Electrostatic Mixing in Microbial Conversions
3174150 – March 16, 1965 – Self-Focusing Antenna System
3234357 – February 8, 1966 – Electrically Heated Smoke Producing Device
3274035 – September 20, 1966 – Metallic Composition For Production of Hydroscopic Smoke
3300721 – January 24, 1967 – Means For Communication Through a Layer of Ionized Gases
3313487 – April 11, 1967 – Cloud Seeding App
5357865 – October 25, 1994 – Method of cloud seeding
5360162 – November 1, 1994 – Method and composition for precipitation of atmospheric water
5383024 – January 17, 1995 – Optical wet steam monitor
5425413 – June 20, 1995 – Method to hinder the formation and to break-up overhead atmospheric inversions, enhance ground level air circulation and improve urban air quality
5434667 – July 18, 1995 – Characterization of particles by modulated dynamic light scattering
5441200 – August 15, 1995 – Tropical cyclone disruption
5486900 – January 23, 1996 – Measuring device for amount of charge of toner and image forming apparatus having the measuring device
5556029 – September 17, 1996 – Method of hydrometeor dissipation (clouds)
5628455 – May 13, 1997 – Method and apparatus for modification of supercooled fog
5631414 – May 20, 1997 – Method and device for remote diagnostics of ocean-atmosphere system state
5639441 – June 17, 1997 – Methods for fine particle formation
5762298 – June 9, 1998 – Use of artificial satellites in earth orbits adaptively to modify the effect that solar radiation would otherwise have on earth’s weather
5800481 – September 1, 1998 – Thermal excitation of sensory resonances
5912396 – June 15, 1999 – System and method for remediation of selected atmospheric conditions
5922976 – July 13, 1999 – Method of measuring aerosol particles using automated mobility-classified aerosol detector
5949001 – September 7, 1999 – Method for aerodynamic particle size analysis
5984239 – November 16, 1999 – Weather modification by artificial satellite
6025402 – February 15, 2000 – Chemical composition for effectuating a reduction of visibility obscuration, and a detoxifixation of fumes and chemical fogs in spaces of fire origin
6030506 – February 29, 2000 – Preparation of independently generated highly reactive chemical species
6034073 – March 7, 2000 – Solvent detergent emulsions having antiviral activity
6045089 – April 4, 2000 – Solar-powered airplane
6056203 – May 2, 2000 – Method and apparatus for modifying supercooled clouds
6110590 – August 29, 2000 – Synthetically spun silk nanofibers and a process for making the same
6263744 – July 24, 2001 – Automated mobility-classified-aerosol detector
6281972 – August 28, 2001 – Method and apparatus for measuring particle-size distribution
6315213 – November 13, 2001 – Method of modifying weather
6382526 – May 7, 2002 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
6408704 – June 25, 2002 – Aerodynamic particle size analysis method and apparatus
6412416 – July 2, 2002 – Propellant-based aerosol generation devices and method
6520425 – February 18, 2003 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
6539812 – April 1, 2003 – System for measuring the flow-rate of a gas by means of ultrasound
6553849 – April 29, 2003 – Electrodynamic particle size analyzer
6569393 – May 27, 2003 – Method And Device For Cleaning The Atmosphere
0056705 A1 – March 17, 2005 – Weather Modification by Royal Rainmaking Technology
6890497 – May 10, 2005 – Method For Extracting And Sequestering Carbon Dioxide
7965488 – November 9, 2007 – Methods Of Removing Aerosols From The Atmosphere
8048309 – August 28, 2008 – Seawater-Based Carbon Dioxide Disposal
8012453 – October 27, 2008 – Carbon Sequestration And Production Of Hydrogen And Hydride
7645326 – January 12, 2010 – RFID environmental manipulation
7655193 – February 2, 2010 – Apparatus For Extracting And Sequestering Carbon Dioxide
8079545 – December 20, 2011 – Ground based Manipulation and Control of Aerial Vehicle during nonflying operations
0117003 – October 5, 2012 – Geoengineering Method Of Business Using Carbon Counterbalance Credits – alternate link
8373962 – February 12, 2013 – Charged seed cloud as a method for increasing particle collisions and for scavenging airborne biological agents and other contaminants
Finally - here's an Air Force paper published when i was active duty
Written in the mid 90s and addressing how we planned to effectively wield weather modification as a battlefield force multiplier - by 2025
USAF - Owning the Weather by 2025
Please note - I'm not commenting on use of this stuff
But the tech and capabilities are very real
Have a good night - 👍
Written in the mid 90s and addressing how we planned to effectively wield weather modification as a battlefield force multiplier - by 2025
USAF - Owning the Weather by 2025
Please note - I'm not commenting on use of this stuff
But the tech and capabilities are very real
Have a good night - 👍
That list looks like a few cloud seeding patents sprinkled throughout a random list of things that have nothing to do with the weather.
For example:
- 5486900 – January 23, 1996 – Measuring device for amount of charge of toner and image forming apparatus having the measuring device - this appears to be a patent filed by Sharp Corp to measure toner in copy machines
- 6034073 – March 7, 2000 – Solvent detergent emulsions having antiviral activity - this is a patent by Novovax regarding a process for inactivating viruses
If that’s supposed to represent a list of weather related patents, it is exceedingly sloppy work.
I was about to do the same thing.
Here is one item from the list he provided
It is classified as Soap-bubble toys; Smoke toys
5. IN A TOY, A DEVICE FOR PRODUCING SMOKE AND THE LIKE BY VAPORIZING A LIQUID,
I’m sure Gerhard Seuthe was really trying to master the elements with that patent.
Here is one item from the list he provided
Electrically heated smoke producing device
It is classified as Soap-bubble toys; Smoke toys
5. IN A TOY, A DEVICE FOR PRODUCING SMOKE AND THE LIKE BY VAPORIZING A LIQUID,
I’m sure Gerhard Seuthe was really trying to master the elements with that patent.
5383024 – January 17, 1995 – Optical wet steam monitor
This one expired because the patent seeker didn’t pay the fees.
Go read the actual summary of the invention.
This one expired because the patent seeker didn’t pay the fees.
Go read the actual summary of the invention.
That list of patents has been circling conspiratorial sites for several years.
For example, here: https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread626718/pg1
For example, here: https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread626718/pg1
Interesting. It boggles my mind how people can fall for something like that.
It only takes two seconds of scanning the patent descriptions to realize it’s a completely nonsensical list of random patents.
I like the idea that we can create and direct the energy in a hurricane -- hundreds of thousands of megatons of TNT -- by seeding clouds. That's all it takes. *poof*
People who believe these kinds of things don't have a sense of the impossibility to do the things claimed. Now, not knowing is no shame. Few of us understand much about the thousands of marvels we enjoy daily. But there is psychic masturbation behind the thrills of conspiracy theories. It feels so good to be in the know of the behind the scenes stuff that real life can't hold a candle. And if you "know" the who-did-it behind these issues, the how-in-the-fork nuts-and-bolts don't matter. "It's that guy over there! Get him!" The guy over there has nothing to do with the phenomenon, but that doesn't matter. Someone said he did. That's all it takes.
People who believe these kinds of things don't have a sense of the impossibility to do the things claimed. Now, not knowing is no shame. Few of us understand much about the thousands of marvels we enjoy daily. But there is psychic masturbation behind the thrills of conspiracy theories. It feels so good to be in the know of the behind the scenes stuff that real life can't hold a candle. And if you "know" the who-did-it behind these issues, the how-in-the-fork nuts-and-bolts don't matter. "It's that guy over there! Get him!" The guy over there has nothing to do with the phenomenon, but that doesn't matter. Someone said he did. That's all it takes.
The thing is, people do fall for stuff like this. And even worse. You almost have to wonder if some folks purposely seek this stuff out. Maybe like the drama in life. Maybe like to disagree and “fight the man”.
They’ve been chasin Bigfoot since at least the 70s o and they haven’t got him yet. And I remember in the 80s my grandmother saw where scientists had bred a human amd a bat and created a Batboy. She was effing terrrified. No joke. Granny kind lost her marbles…
My other grandma was a poor farmer who sent money to Jim and Tammy Fae Baker. Swore they were doing the lords work. She got pissed when I said the lord would have sent clowns with better face paint…
But yeah. I link the linked article that alluded to cloud studies in the west and the program concluded that seeding sometimes caused more rain than average, and some time it was less than average…you know….average.
That wasn't the only thing he was referencing. He was talking about the entire topic that someone else brought up.
Aside from someone posting an MTG article, I didn't think the angle of this topic was to get political.
Thought this one was kind of interesting.
This patent is for a chemical that, when applied to a hurricane, expands the eye wall and greatly weakens its intensity.
It was filed in Aug. 1993 by Ernest Rovella (I’m assuming the filing was motivated by Hurricane Andrew the year before). Ernest was the owner and operator of Oxygen Plus Respiratory Care and Home Health Equipment, Inc. in Vero Beach, FL. Unusual background for an inventor in the meteorological space.
His filing claims that experiments using his method resulted in an 11x increase in the size of the hurricane’s eye. I’m a little skeptical that NOAA, or any other agency, would lend Ernest their hurricane hunter aircraft to conduct tests of his chemical. And surely these successful experiments would’ve made the news, though I didn’t come across anything. So his 11x claim seems a little dubious.
The chemical that Ernest describes in his patent is also interesting. He says it’s an “anhydrous hydrate.” In other words, it’s a chemical compound that contains zero water molecules while at the same time containing water molecules. So his grasp of chemistry doesn’t appear to be that great.
But essentially, what the patent seems to describe is a process where you grind a desiccant (like you might find in a new pair of shoes) into a fine powder and sprinkle this in the hurricane’s eye. The powder absorbs water vapor to create fat, heavy raindrops that are flung outward by centrifugal force. These raindrops then pull the eye wall outward, weakening the hurricane. That seems a bit like a scheme that Kramer from Seinfeld might come up with.
So it would appear that this weather related patent is likely fraudulent in the sense that it never worked. Not surprisingly, the patent expired due to not paying the fees.
It is real. But it also probably has little/nothing to do with hurricanes because these were a thing well before.
The underlying issue is the government's refusal to be honest. That causes everything to be doubted and imo critical thinking is a good thing.
As to the weather manipulation in general, as i said in another thread i wish experts would leave nature alone. Way too smart to be so dumb, but here we are.
The underlying issue is the government's refusal to be honest. That causes everything to be doubted and imo critical thinking is a good thing.
As to the weather manipulation in general, as i said in another thread i wish experts would leave nature alone. Way too smart to be so dumb, but here we are.
What I enjoy is the same guys who easily believe in the evil government with their secret evil genius scientists are controlling the weather are same guys who scoff and dismiss any ideas of "man made" climate changes the "other" side wants to curb
Great post, thanks for detailing your firsthand account. I've heard talk of lasers being used in weather modification which would be fascinating if true.
On a side note I'm quite amazed with the science deniers we have responding to this thread.
So you're saying clouding seeding and the science associated with it is false. Can you elaborate?
Most importantly, and I cannot understand how people still need to be told this - patents, even owned by the US, often are totally 1000% MEANINGLESS. They do NOT have to even be real. Literally. There are literal UFO patents, go ahead and look them up. They can be totally bogus fantasies.
"Patents" can be civilization changing. Like lightbulbs or lasers. Or innocuous doodads. You can't cite a patent to prove government conspiracy. In 2023, there were over 300,000 patents issued.
Practical modification of the weather involves rainmaking. Seeding clouds. It has some success but it's advantages are ambiguous. You sure can't gin up a hurricane and you can't dissipate it. Trump once asked if he could nuke one to dissipate it. That's the kind of energies involved.
Practical modification of the weather involves rainmaking. Seeding clouds. It has some success but it's advantages are ambiguous. You sure can't gin up a hurricane and you can't dissipate it. Trump once asked if he could nuke one to dissipate it. That's the kind of energies involved.
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