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Well I think we're down to Sunday or never at this point and I'd lean heavily toward never. Of course I also thought the Warriors would win easily last night, so what do I know.
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Well I think we're down to Sunday or never at this point and I'd lean heavily toward never. Of course I also thought the Warriors would win easily last night, so what do I know.
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I'm leaning towards Sunday only because all of the evidence points towards never. I think it's a misdirection and one they could pull off because the shot could be a small one with limited people in the know, unlike the big ass battle scene with all the extras, etc.Of course.
Well I think we're down to Sunday or never at this point and I'd lean heavily toward never. Of course I also thought the Warriors would win easily last night, so what do I know.
But also, what do I know.
Yeah so I was 100% lying there, gents, if you weren't already privy.
It would be a dick move to spoil that she wouldn't be on the show, which is why it makes me think it could've been misdirection or just talking out of his ass. A quick end of the episode reveal in a tent or something would be relatively easy to hide during filming, but with psychos out there who would go to the lengths of tracking cast member's travel and such I'm not sure it would have been possible without something leaking out.
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It would be a dick move to spoil that she wouldn't be on the show, which is why it makes me think it could've been misdirection or just talking out of his ass. A quick end of the episode reveal in a tent or something would be relatively easy to hide during filming, but with psychos out there who would go to the lengths of tracking cast member's travel and such I'm not sure it would have been possible without something leaking out.
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I think word is he's either going to convince the strong empowered women who don't need no men in Dorne to back his strong empowered insane queen who don't need no man, or we're getting a stunning Aegon entrance, which is way less likely.
I am convinced that Dany and Jon will somehow rule together before this show is over. Which would be awesome. They have to kill Tommen off soon though. Dear god what a bad character. Cersei really should die too and most of the kings landing people. I just want to see the mountain go down swinging and maybe the hound takes him out.
I love how they fixed fans' complaints with Dorne. Kill everyone and ignore it for the rest of the season but for one throwaway line from Jaime.
In the books Varys helps Ceresi stay in power because (IMO at least) he knows she'll screw things up so badly that the people will welcome a regime change with open arms. Blowing up the Sept and killing all those people sure speeds up the process .
So what's your thoughts on Jamie if she goes thru with it?
.So what's your thoughts on Jamie if she goes thru with it?
If Tommen dies and (as in the show) Jaime is released from his duty as Kingsguard, he is the rightful heir to the throne, correct?
Long may King Onehand reign.
Long may King Onehand reign.
In the books Varys helps Ceresi stay in power because (IMO at least) he knows she'll screw things up so badly that the people will welcome a regime change with open arms. Blowing up the Sept and killing all those people sure speeds up the process
So what's your thoughts on Jamie if she goes thru with it?
Jaime will kill her next season and fulfill the valonqar prophecy. I think Jaime's ultimate destiny is to lead the Lannister army alongside the Starks in the Battle For the Dawn 2.0.That's why it was important that Brienne saw that Jaime allowed her to escape on the show. Brienne will be crucial in building a Stark/Lannister alliance.
Also, I think it would be hilarious if nearly all of Dany's army drown and she made it to Westeros with two surviving dragons, a few hundred Unsullied, and a few hundred Dothraki.
Also, I think it would be hilarious if nearly all of Dany's army drown and she made it to Westeros with two surviving dragons, a few hundred Unsullied, and a few hundred Dothraki.
I know I'm in the extreme minority here but damn it I'm on team Dany. She has three ****ing dragons people. I just can't understand why we can advance her on and let her destroy with her dragons and really badass dothraki army at this point. I also like tyrion and greyworm and that makes her even easier to root for.
Kingslayer is not inline to be king - but if things progress as many predict he could take the Iron Throne in the vacuum and wait for somebody with a real claim to step up...
I am as well expecting Danys to lose the Dothraki Horde to the seas...nothing goes as plan lol
So much of the books where the deal with prophecies I think in the long run is just "filler" to help explain some characters motivations - in the end I see Jon and Danys ruling the way think it should be --- watching her deal with LesboTheon is a sign of things to come --- yes Danys wants to be Queen but she doesn't want to be hated...
I am as well expecting Danys to lose the Dothraki Horde to the seas...nothing goes as plan lol
So much of the books where the deal with prophecies I think in the long run is just "filler" to help explain some characters motivations - in the end I see Jon and Danys ruling the way think it should be --- watching her deal with LesboTheon is a sign of things to come --- yes Danys wants to be Queen but she doesn't want to be hated...
I was expecting a little more from the dragons than all three of them having to hover together breathing fire for like 20 minutes to take out one ship.
Part of me thinks Dany will go mad like her father. Or maybe part of me hopes she goes mad. Not a fan. Jon the warrior > Jon the strategist. His decision making last night brings into question his ability to rule in my opinion. Hopefully he learns from it and it's part of his growth.
"You know what? Eff this one ship right here in particular."
She just added another nickname "Daenerys Stormborn... the Supported Incomprehensibly By Nubb16, first of her name."
If you read the books, the first mate on that ship, guy second from the right who looks up and sees the dragon, is actually one of the guys who worked in the market when the guy tried to sell her poison wine back in season one.
So he had it coming.
Ah yes. Of course. "Ay. Dat one nikkuh wif da poison ova here on dis boat. Let's eff him up."
What an amazing episode. Even though the outcome was predictable, it was absolutely fantastic nonetheless. One of the best episodes in the entire series imo considering that last weeks was one of the worst. Even the mereen scenes were better than I thought. When the dothraki came around that hill, I was like oh shit! The dragon scenes were pretty good but I thought it was hilarious they just decimated that one ship. I guess they wanted to prove a point so they could have as many ships as possible. The battle of the bastards was pretty remarkable. I held out a little hope that smalljon umber would switch but alas he didn't and he paid the price. The knights of the vale cut through the boltons, karstarks, umbers like butter. And to watch Jon beat Ramsey close to death was inspirational
If _____ on your list dies without being naked in the show, it's a great travesty and horrible writing.
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I don't think Jon Snow has any plans of staying at Winerfell. He's going to fight the white walkers. Really poor leadership by him last night too, should have died. Ran into Bolton's army all by himsel after being tricked into it. He failed to list to Sansa.
It appears to me that Little Finger has almost his full army and is in Winterfell. I think he makes his play for Winterfell and Sansa next week. Jon and Sansa don't have the soldiers to deny Little Finger anything he wants.
The Umbers switching sides mid battle wouldn't have made any logical sense because they were the ones that handed Rickon over to Ramsay in the first place. They basically signed his death warrant. Jon was going to kill them regardless.
The dragons only went after one ship because Dany wanted to save the fleet to for the Dothraki.
I feel like Sansa is about to turn heel
The dragons only went after one ship because Dany wanted to save the fleet to for the Dothraki.
I feel like Sansa is about to turn heel
Littlefinger had permission to use the Vail's army to assist the Starks, not use it against them. I doubt Robin would be very happy if he tried to use them against his family, or that the army would do it. That's not his army. No doubt though, he wants Sansa, Winterfell, and to be Warden of the North.
Can we just elect Littlfinger as president this year? He'd have the Middle East sorted out in six months.
I don't know how a Lannister could be heir when it's House Baratheon that holds the crown?
Isn't it widely accepted by the plebeians of King's Landing that all of the Baratheons remaining are incest-Lannisters?
Tommen has no heirs so his lineage goes up the geneological tree and Jaime, as Tommen's ostensible uncle, shakes out to be the true heir if Tommen bites it. At least that is my understanding of the matter. After Jaime, it goes to Tyrion.
Tommen is going to die. We know that. So if Jaime becomes king then that creates an interesting dilemma for Tyrion. If, of course, Jaime survives long enough for Dany and Tyrion to make it to kings landing.
Dany is Tommen's heir. The throne passes through his Baratheon heritage, not his Lannister heritage. The Baratheons were cousins to the Targaryens through Rhaelle Targaryen. She was Robert's grandmother. The entire Baratheon line of succession has been wiped out (save Tommen) except for cousin Dany.
Assuming Daenarys' plot armor eventually has a break in it, she's setting up to be the perfect red herring for the story. Conquers like Aegon, descends into madness just like her pops. Targs are either geniuses or insane, and it's clear where she's heading.
I've been thinking the same thing for a while. Tyrion or someone is trying to keep her from going Mad King 2.0 at every turn it seems. And Daario made the comment earlier this season that she was a conqueror not a ruler. I'm a supporter of evil Dany theory.
