Maybe, just maybe, the boosters don't like what's going on with the program.
Ah so I’m not alone in my beliefMaybe, just maybe, the boosters don't like what's going on with the program.
And you would be correctActually don’t hate the man
Never have.
But there is absolutely nothing I could say to change your stance so I won’t even try and that’s perfectly fine.
I have my own thoughts as to why there is a lack of financial contributions . And that IS directly related to Calipari’s performance
Just my opinion
I find it hard to believe that stoops went out there and bought the top qb transfer yet our basketball team is going off scraps.
Didn’t the head of the basketball team proclaim to the world that Kentucky is a basketball school?
I mean that's one player. It's not like UKs football recruiting classes are tops in the SEC or anyone thinks we are winning the SEC this coming season.
UK signed 4 stud players in basketball. Not sure why they can't sign some transfer from Dakota state or wherever.
You might be right, but grassroots isn’t the issue. Its business. Can you drop 100k on a single player for ads and get your money back in the Lexington market? One maybe? or two? This was predictable day 1 of NIL. Bottom line is we simply could not afford Oscar or Dickinson.Actually don’t hate the man
Never have.
But there is absolutely nothing I could say to change your stance so I won’t even try and that’s perfectly fine.
I have my own thoughts as to why there is a lack of financial contributions . And that IS directly related to Calipari’s performance
Just my opinion
Don't know but they have a big money guy named Booth, who out-bid Duke for the original rules of basketball, then built KU a building off Allen Fieldhouse for them. It was on a 30 for 30 episode. He could be the well they go to.
No NIL money goes to Cal’s Contract. What a bald faced lie.That’s on Barney and cal for not evolving. Also it doesn’t help that most of the
“Nil” money goes to Cals salary. The central banks of the world can’t afford cal and players. He is like a black hole for our resources. I mean if he made self money there would be alot more to go around
Maybe we need to give Bezos and Musk honorary degrees.I don’t really know how or where the NIL money comes from, but just off the top of my head the Booth guy you mention is worth over $5 Billion, a KU family that owned Russell Stover chocolates sold it a few years ago to Lindt Chocolates for about $2 Billion, and a local KC company Cerner was just sold to Oracle for @ $28 Billion and one of the founders was a KU graduate. He also owns the Sporting KC soccer team. Again, I don know how NIL works, but those are a couple big alumni.
We need the dealers of the state to start a collective.Who's gonna be KYs donors. Top 5 in ky
1-Whiskey kids luv booze..
2-Horses lots of tradition in the state but doesn't pay out for us.
3-Home of the Corvette again doesn't do shit because GM is like so what.
4-Meth and Fentalyn can't really capitalize on that.
5-Not much left but Sports and it's not gonna pay for itself apparently.
I'm not sure what the hell is going on but I'm gonna be ready by October to watch us burn this the rest way down because we damn sure don't see anyone putting this out. College Basketball 🏀 gotta love it.
it sucksHas anyone else here been to Tuscaloosa?
For whatever reason, it's always basketball that has these youngsters thinking it's their meal ticket. It's never football.
Stewart Horejsi, another big donor. 2.7 BillionI don’t really know how or where the NIL money comes from, but just off the top of my head the Booth guy you mention is worth over $5 Billion, a KU family that owned Russell Stover chocolates sold it a few years ago to Lindt Chocolates for about $2 Billion, and a local KC company Cerner was just sold to Oracle for @ $28 Billion and one of the founders was a KU graduate. He also owns the Sporting KC soccer team. Again, I don know how NIL works, but those are a couple big alumni.
I mean that's one player. It's not like UKs football recruiting classes are tops in the SEC or anyone thinks we are winning the SEC this coming season.
UK signed 4 stud players in basketball. Not sure why they can't sign some transfer from Dakota state or wherever.
For whatever reason, it's always basketball that has these youngsters thinking it's their meal ticket. It's never football.
Football team is having no problem with it.Kentucky businesses and donors cannot fund the NIL money to compete with most power schools. We don’t have the backing to guarantee large deals….and the future is bleak for improvement.
The pie is too small.
Always an excuse. Kyexcusefan, Calexcusemaker, blindlyfollowcoach…. All of those would be good usernames for you. I bet you’re a big Joe Biden fan too. SMHYou might be right, but grassroots isn’t the issue. Its business. Can you drop 100k on a single player for ads and get your money back in the Lexington market? One maybe? or two? This was predictable day 1 of NIL. Bottom line is we simply could not afford Oscar or Dickinson.
It’s easy to blame Cal. Maybe that’s best. The real issue is much more difficult to fix.
They do not care about football.But BFE, Kansas has a big budget?
What about the horse farms and the distilleries. They should have some money. I don't know but I would think they could fund some NIL $$$.It is absolutely true. One of the things that recruits, IIRC, have said in the past is there is not a lot to do in Lexington. If you take away the gozillion dealerships on New Circle, and the hospitals and Lexmark, what is there? Not meaning to belittle the city, there doesn't seem to be a lot of entertainment revenue in Lexington.
The thing is everybody that has money is not necessarily into sports, UK or otherwise. They have other uses for their money.What about the horse farms and the distilleries. They should have some money. I don't know but I would think they could fund some NIL $$$.
Exactly. I have added to my post since you commented. But I totally agree with you.The thing is everybody that has money is not necessarily into sports, UK or otherwise. They have other uses for their money.
You are so pathetic you can’t discuss basketball and resort to pretty boy politics? You tell me, just how big a NiL check you think Cal can write? Let’s have it kycrapslinger.Always an excuse. Kyexcusefan, Calexcusemaker, blindlyfollowcoach…. All of those would be good usernames for you. I bet you’re a big Joe Biden fan too. SMH
Me, too. The kids who would run through walls to play for Kentucky don't seem to exist anymore. If they're any good they're trying to go somewhere else. I'm inclined to say that these kids have resources regarding other schools at their fingertips, but you've hit the nail on the head. Cal does not represent the heart of this program. From many angles. And kids and their parents don't look up to him to Cal or UK like they did when we were kids. 😢What about the horse farms and the distilleries. They should have some money. I don't know but I would think they could fund some NIL $$$.
EDIT: I posted this before I saw another post about these plus some others. I wonder also about how the OAD's here are affecting the possible donors, etc. Now if they were a guaranteed top 5 or 10 in the draft, maybe I would want them to advertise for me. But to just be here for a year (or less, in some cases), a lot of people wouldn't even know (or care) who they are. Now take a Kentucky born and bred kid, that might be different. I would prefer a KY kid to advertise for me. But that's just my personal opinion. But Cal doesn't seem to care for KY kids much. Anyway, all of it is a mystery to me. And I am just so tired and weary of Cal and his games.
I think he has a valid point. If you're investing money in a player, hoping to see a deep tourney run and get more exposure due to that player, wouldn't you expect more than what UK has delivered?Always an excuse. Kyexcusefan, Calexcusemaker, blindlyfollowcoach…. All of those would be good usernames for you. I bet you’re a big Joe Biden fan too. SMH
You’ve been running around from thread to thread making excuses. Like usualYou are so pathetic you can’t discuss basketball and resort to pretty boy politics? You tell me, just how big a NiL check you think Cal can write? Let’s have it kycrapslinger.
He’s going from thread to thread making excuses. My post to him without going through them allI think he has a valid point. If you're investing money in a player, hoping to see a deep tourney run and get more exposure due to that player, wouldn't you expect more than what UK has delivered?
Just proves what I’ve been saying the whole time when all this “pay the players”NIL talk was going around and everybody was like, “damn right about time- NCAA are tyrants……”Kentucky businesses and donors cannot fund the NIL money to compete with most power schools. We don’t have the backing to guarantee large deals….and the future is bleak for improvement.
The pie is too small.
Good post, but there is about issue yiu haven’t raise. Say you have 50 schools with big NIL pockets. They all want 2 recruits in the top 30. You are one of the schools , but you want 6 or 7. You have to out bid 30 schools, 6 or 7 times. They are wanting 2, you want 6. Your pockets have to be much deeper or you will fail.What about the horse farms and the distilleries. They should have some money. I don't know but I would think they could fund some NIL $$$.
EDIT: I posted this before I saw another post about these plus some others. I wonder also about how the OAD's here are affecting the possible donors, etc. Now if they were a guaranteed top 5 or 10 in the draft, maybe I would want them to advertise for me. But to just be here for a year (or less, in some cases), a lot of people wouldn't even know (or care) who they are. Now take a Kentucky born and bred kid, that might be different. I would prefer a KY kid to advertise for me. But that's just my personal opinion. But Cal doesn't seem to care for KY kids much. Anyway, all of it is a mystery to me. And I am just so tired and weary of Cal and his games.
Right. I knew you couldn’t answer a very simple question. I forgot your challenges. I am sorry.You’ve been running around from thread to thread making excuses. Like usual
I just made the exact point in another thread. If there is any chance to save collegiate sports, as we've always known it, changes must be made, like capping NIL benefits to create an equitable and level playing field. The argument was that student athletes needed some extra walking around money. As usual, without some constraint, it's now out of control and in this form it will kill the game. I don't care what SCOTUS has ruled ... another path will emerge as a work around or prepare to lose what you love. Same goes for OAD and Portal as huge problems. Changes are needed to preserve the sanctity of the game. Set the rules, recruit the players to play in exchange for a free education, the players sign a waiver, agreeing to abide by the rules, limited NIL and go from there. If the NCAA gets in the way ... we can rid ourselves of the NCAA and create a compliant oversight organization for all member schools. The way it is now will not work and isn't working now.Kentucky businesses and donors cannot fund the NIL money to compete with most power schools. We don’t have the backing to guarantee large deals….and the future is bleak for improvement.
The pie is too small.
I agree with one aspect of what you say. NIL has and will continue hurting college sports. You have to adapt with how you build rosters and other programs are doing much better at that than we are.Right. I knew you couldn’t answer a very simple question. I forgot your challenges. I am sorry.
Did Florida Atlantic, San Diego state, Creighton and Gonzaga rely on NIL money to get far in the NCAA tournament???? Did Kansas state have higher rated players than we did? Keep making excuses.Maybe we need to give Bezos and Musk honorary degrees.
Actually, that’s pretty naive. This is far from stable. What worked this year might not work next. Coffers will dry up, others fill up. In its current state, one would expect the biggest markets to prevail. Eventually some regulation will be imposed by either the NCAA or the federal government. Nobody has witnessed this sort of debacle in history. Just wait for organized crime to make a play…… That’s coming.I agree with one aspect of what you say. NIL has and will continue hurting college sports. You have to adapt with how you build rosters and other programs are doing much better at that than we are.
With no cap on it, I can understand where you’re coming from. I was kidding with you about Joe Biden.Actually, that’s pretty naive. This is far from stable. What worked this year might not work next. Coffers will dry up, others fill up. In its current state, one would expect the biggest markets to prevail. Eventually some regulation will be imposed by either the NCAA or the federal government. Nobody has witnessed this sort of debacle in history. Just wait for organized crime to make a play…… That’s coming.
Funny how NIL doesn't seem to be a problem in the thriving metropolises of Lawrence, KS or Tuscaloosa, AL or Fayettenam, AR.Always an excuse. Kyexcusefan, Calexcusemaker, blindlyfollowcoach…. All of those would be good usernames for you. I bet you’re a big Joe Biden fan too. SMH