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Diallo Entering Draft... Not hiring agent
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Only other player I know of coming in mid season was Wynyard. He also chose not to play.
Absolutely. This thread was more related to all players because I have such a passion for Kentucky basketball and it's disheartening that I care more than some players do. That's why I didn't post in the diallo thread. But diallo is a great example of a player who took complete advantage of UK and I don't support that whatsoever
I agree woth OP. I am not ok with taking a kid to sit on the bench for 1 semester, never playing a second and going pro. Then the argument...more UK kids in NBA...nobody that played 0 secs of game time counts. O understand including Enes in the family because he got screwed, but if Diallo stays in the draft I am not ok with that type of thing contonuing to happen.
Depends. But a system with more commitment to the University of Kentucky will provide more leeway for lots of fans like myself.
Not going to debate this here. There are over 800 posts on the subject already.
it's tough not knowing the real story. whether diallo didnt want to play or cal didnt want to mess with the roster but Diallo was the exact guy the team didnt have. if he is everything Cal said in that press release then it's blasphemous he didnt play him if the kid wanted to play. i hope if he is going to leave though we know sooner than later, there are still a lot of unsigned kids in the top 50 still including a few 5 stars. Maybe Cal could work that overnight magic on one.
sure. Except that coach won't win enough. Or won't recruit well enough. Or won't engage with the fans well enough. Or won't market the program well enough. Or won't dispel NBA rumors. Or won't be good enough to coach in the NBA. Or won't recruit enough Kentucky boys. Or one of a million other things you'll find to complain about.
if you can't be happy now, you can't be happy. Might be time to find a healthier way to spend your free time and disposable income.
Maybe you should reread my post. It doesn't change anything whatsoever. I want players who care about Kentucky. If he comes back and he put his name in the draft to simply understand where he stands and what he needs to improve upon, then maybe he cares about U.K. And doesn't fall into that category. But If his plan all along was to come to U.K., and never play and go pro, then that's BS. He essentially would've lied about not being ready just to not hurt his stock.
Did y'all not watch the 30 for 30? Cal will always tell a player to go if they're good enough after Dajuan Wagner.
That would be great...please call the commissioner of the NBA.
Or plan on having a good ONLY team every four years or do that has a chance at number 9.
Not you.., but the some of same people that bitch that "only titles matter" also bitch about taking OADs; that keep UK in the hunt EVERY year.
Reality is the last years of Tubby and BCG really hurt the UK brand.
We didn't have a solid coach (as K) for 8 years or so and we fell behind UNC DUKE and others in relevancy.
True story....circa2005 or 2006 I go into a sporting goods store in Las Vegas and ask if they have any UK hats... no shitting you... the guy says "I think we have some Kansas hats over there." He was correct. UNC, KU, Duke were will represented. Not ONE UK hat...we were irrelevant, except to diehard college fans or old guys...which, recruits are neither.
All speculation on your part.
And please don't tell me how I feel or can't feel. It's possible to be happy but show some discontent with the way things are working right now. But honestly I have spent less time following/supporting over last few years. For example, I don't bother looking at box scores anymore, couldn't care less about the player stats. And I don't listen to the coaches show Monday nights or the pre-game show on the radio like I used to every week and game. Just not as enjoyable.
I can believe that. Those were hard times for us. I'm not saying I don't like the OAD. Players like cousins, and KAT, etc show so much love for U.K. That is what it's all about to me.. what makes winning so special is the passion within the program.. if players don't care as much as fans then it takes away from the winning to me. I know some people only care about winning, but to me U.K. is deeper than that. Of course I love to win, just saying that I want to share a passion for the university of Kentucky with the players. Hard to be emotionally invested into a team if the players aren't as well. Fortunately, I believe most of our OAD players have had a passion for U.K.
And everyone has to remember. Players are drafted on Athleticism, talent and POTENTIAL...they get playing time, college and NBA careers; based on actual results
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What you do with your life is your business, what Diallo does with his life is his business. Don't get things twisted.
Never got it twisted. Just gave an opinion on Kentucky basketball. Never said he was wrong, but it's not something I believe U.K. Fans should have to support
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nobody with half a brain said dallio was not ready. He is the best player on our team . It was simply an agreement not to play because he would have left this year. He a top 10 #1 SG Ranked player. Youre makin him out to be Tai. Teams are VERY lucky Cal didnt play him this year it may have cost us 9.
If he stays in, the only part that would really irk me would be that we didnt play him this past season when he could've helped us.
1/2 and done is actually tolerable when the team gains from it too, rather than being treated like some sports academy.
That said, he almost has to come back. Why come to college and go to class, etc? He could've just spent all semester training.
1/2 and done is actually tolerable when the team gains from it too, rather than being treated like some sports academy.
That said, he almost has to come back. Why come to college and go to class, etc? He could've just spent all semester training.
I guess he has some deficiencies in his coaching, since Cal gets some of the best talent yr in yr out.
I don't know that I have all the answers for that but it's got to be on his shoulders. I don't know the inner workings behind the scene and what was said or not said, what was promised, or what was thought by both sides. There are a lot of answers that I don't have and don't pretend to have but I know if he decides to stay in the draft that it really hurts our team. I do know that and the guy that would be responsible for that is Cal.
Now, the ones that have been on here awhile, such as yourself, should know that I defend Cal to the end. I always trust in Cal but that doesn't mean that he's beyond reproach and not capable of making mistakes. If Diallo leaves, did Cal make a mistake? I'd have to say yes. I have to believe that Cal knew that this was a possibility and he may have even encouraged him to declare. Those are also things we do not know but I don't believe that Cal was just completely blindsided by this. He had to have known that this was coming or at least a good possibility of happening.
Granted that this is all dependent on him leaving this year because if he stays, then all is good and it was a great plan by Cal. If he leaves though, there is only 1 person that can be looked at in this situation and it's gotta be Coach.
What did UK get out of this situation? Players get everything that the school, program, and coach can do for them for as long as they're here. In return, the school, program, and coach get everything that the player can do on the court. It's a win win situation for both when everything works out but what would UK get for their "efforts" if Hami were to leave? Nothing! Plus we would be even more short handed for next year when we could've been out recruiting that position for the past 4 months. Not to mention we lose his connection with Bamba. That's a big risk to take if you ask me.
Cal took a big risk and I'm not sure that I would've taken that risk if there was possibility he actually go through with it and leaves. That's just me though and I know others may feel differently about it. If we lose him, I obviously don't think it was worth it but like I said, we don't know the inner workings about their plan and what was talked about. This may all be for show and for the experience of doing it. We just don't know. We can only go by results and just as Cal is pointed to when he gets everything right with recruits, he's only human and can make a mistake. He's the only one that can be pointed to either way.
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I guess I'm old school but, I don't ever want to see ANY player commit to UK, sit on the bench for a half season and then leave for the NBA without playing a minute. Just kinda cheapens the value of the name on the front of the jersey IMO. Don't know if it will happen in this case with Diallo but, there is definitely a chance.
It's not a win-win situation, it's a win for Diallo and a lose for us. The situation it would put us in if he were to leave is not a win situation for us. We have enough "ammo" and enough players in the league to get the point across that we can get them there quickly. We don't need to have some player come through for 4 months, never play a single minute, and then enter the draft to prove that the staff is good at what they do. It will just open the door for more kids to want to reclassify or graduate early and do the exact same thing Diallo did. It will also become part of the same problem we are seeing with kids thinking they're a failure if they're not OAD here. This is not something we want or need here. We have plenty of pros to sell us to future recruits. Just my opinion of course.
Someone should have held your beer while you typed that. I'm not outragedy at all. I've been saying he will do this for months. I don't agree with risk/benefit analysis though. I thought it was pretty obvious what he would do so there was previous little reward to be had from my perspective. There is almost no chance that he comes back but you can cling to that hope for a few more weeks I guess.
cal breaks records for wins not broken since rupp. you're the likelihood of this being outdone with our next coach speculation? k.
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Not high level but I can tell sight unseen what he needs to work on. Shooting, dribbling, passing, defending, rebounding -- maybe his walk
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