Again u conviniently leave out facts. We have landed recruits and talent the likes of which haven't been seen before and probably never will. That 4 in 39 years argument doesn't hold up.
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Diallo doesn't need guarantee of first round pick to remain in draft
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So if part of the deal for Diallo to come to KY was to play him when he felt he was ready you would have broken that promise and attempted to force him to play?
You make my point. Cal allowed a player to play us. He came here, could have played but didn't because he didn't want to hurt draft stock, and you and many others are ok with that. Cal allowed it to happen, now he is covering it up under the ridiculous "players first" umbrella.
Nope. He actually said testing the waters in the draft was always the plan.
Nothing was left out of that post and you still didn't answer it's question. You are reading what you want into this situation so you can cry and bitch on the internet. Ignorance is bliss
Maybe look at these players as 17 and 18 year olds and playing on a totally new team?
Maybe look at the injuries in 14 and 15?
Maybe look at simply poor shooting in 10 and 11 (just like 84 with 17 seniors)?
Maybe look a Cal's coaching in 10, 14, 15?
Maybe look at the refs in 14, 15, and 17?
another popular argument that doesn't hold up the classic "we are young". Cal CHOOSES to play that way.
And you leave out that he has his best players one year. He starts over every year. Name another coach that can do that.
I have thought Diallo wasn't going to be here next year since he made the decision not to play last year. He obviously was concerned about hurting his stock. I wouldn't draft him if I were an NBA team solely due to that but somebody will. Hard to miss what you never had. We have a nice backcourt coming in with Green and Alexander. After watching Alexander a couple of times in all star games I don't think Diallo would play over him anyway. Moving on. We will be good next year.
Yeah, he's always said he intends to stay but he definitely left the door open. I think a lot of people ignored that part.
I totally agree.
But that still doesnt change the fact that an entirely new team with kids straight out of HS are going to be world killers every game.
These straight out of HS'ers also out performed our previous way of playing 100X the last decade that so many want to return to...
Only way this was a bad move is if we truly missed on another recruit because of it. That's it.
You guys are crazy thinking Cal got played and was taken advantage of or by surprise with all this.
Fans saw what they wanted to see and that's why the outrage now. Trust me, Cal saw this coming and imo is cool with it. We still don't even know what Diallo is going to do yet.
I would think Cal was preparing Diallo to play next season if he wasnt guaranteed a first round slot... just my opinion.
And we still don't know that he won't be back? If he is gone, why no agent?
And maybe that's still the plan. Maybe not. These conversations will be better had in a couple months.
If it's true what Knox's dad said about Cal trying to sale Knox as a 2 guard it does make me wonder.
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Still waiting on a link for that to know the direct quote and context. I don't read too much into that to be honest.
I still say the most telling sign for Diallo going pro was him not playing last season. No reason for that kid not to have been on the floor.
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You had a decent argument going til you said that. Cal/UK had one title but they should of had 4 (2010, 2011, 2012, 2015) with OAD's. So your point is moot.
This is not hard. I understand it's hard for some to answer.
The hypothetical nature aside, the OAD gradually happened as well. One year it was just a guy or two, a few years later we're sending 3/4. 8 years ago people would have laughed at the notion that players like Briscoe and others would leave with little shot of getting drafted. Now it happens at times. Not uncommon.
So aside from the theoretical proposal, who's to stop others from doing it if Diallo shows it's benificial to wait it out? Maybe more do, you really want to guarantee they won't? We're so young, one recruit screwing around could destroy our chances.
However my original point, again, was IF your opinion is this is fine and Diallo is just playing it smart, then how could you complain IF this happens more routinely? I was trying to gauge how far some of these fans would go to back any position necessary.
Only dumb if he's the 21%. 79% of second round picks have gotten guaranteed contracts. I have no issue with him
Leaving since it's supposed to be about doing what you feel is best for you just like fans want what's best for their fandom
Leaving since it's supposed to be about doing what you feel is best for you just like fans want what's best for their fandom
For what exactly? Getting the best players possible? The bastard.
And you'll be whining about something else then. Cal's done very well for us in his time here recruiting. Historically well. He's also won many league championships and a NC.
Blaming the REF'S has been part of the history of UK's FAN BASE! The five decade's I can remember' in the BIG LOSS GAME'S, is part of it? A big portion of the UK fan's I've known, including my Dad, MYSELF, and MOST OF MY UK BRETHREN! Truth be TOLD, MOST WOULD AGREE!!!
He should do whatever he wants to do, but there is a big difference between a partially guaranteed 2nd round deal and the contract of a top 20 pick.
Diallo seems to be very thoughtful and strategic. If he weren't, he wouldn't have come to UK in January.
I'm sure he will apply that same thoughtfulness to this process.
And UK is the only fan base to do that?Blaming the REF'S has been part of the history of UK's FAN BASE! The five decade's I can remember' in the BIG LOSS GAME'S, is part of it? A big portion of the UK fan's I've known, including my Dad, MYSELF, and MOST OF MY UK BRETHREN! Truth be TOLD, MOST WOULD AGREE!!!
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You're overstating everything. We don't lose our entire roster every year and the entire group of freshmen next year won't leave regardless of whether they are going to get drafted. If they do we probably won the NC but you've already decided we'll be lucky to even make the field.
Im not going to do research for your always argumentative ass....look it up yourself, several instances he stated he planned on returning and never mentioned the draft.
If you just read this thread, you will see where I quoted Diallo from 3 months ago saying he would talk to Cal about it at the end of the season.
Ok, if you read this thread you would also see that i did not dispute that...I said hes made quotes stating he would be coming back next season and didnt mention the draft.
But honestly I dont care what Hami said....he should have played and contributed this season instead of worrying about his draft stock. Thats what irritates me about it. The fact he came here and could have played and didnt. But chose to enter the draft. Why didnt he just stay at his high school..prep school whatever it is and just do the same? Commit to UK if you dont enter the draft
Yeah ignore the NC. And the 4 FFs. And the 6 EEs in 8 years. And.....I'm not sure what team you're a fan of other than the criticize Cal at all costs team.
Accountable for what?
And what punishment would you bestow?
You dont have an answer I know. Just a bunch of stupid statements and I mean this in the most complimentary way possible.
