It was a (really terrible) play on Cal's pitch about Anthony Davis taking the fourth most shots on the team when he was here and his whole "what?! are you kidding me?!" schtick.
Diallo doesn't need guarantee of first round pick to remain in draft
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It was a (really terrible) play on Cal's pitch about Anthony Davis taking the fourth most shots on the team when he was here and his whole "what?! are you kidding me?!" schtick.
To add...all second rounders aren't created equal. Ulis was a second rounder last year who got a first round style contract.
Maybe Diallo would accept a similar deal?
For the record, I hope we get to see him in a UK uniform next year. If he stays in the draft, I hope he knows what he's doing.
But whatever the case, I'll root for the team we put on the floor. I won't take it personally if he moves along.
Maybe Diallo would accept a similar deal?
For the record, I hope we get to see him in a UK uniform next year. If he stays in the draft, I hope he knows what he's doing.
But whatever the case, I'll root for the team we put on the floor. I won't take it personally if he moves along.
How does that hurt UK? He did help by pushing our starters in practice. I'm not sure why this is such a big deal.
The way I see it if Diallo doesn't come back he will still have paid for his time here in publicity. This scenario just cements Cal's players first philosophy. It was in this kids best interest to come and practice with the team and to be coached up. Now it appears that he will possibly a first round draft. As bad as people hate to admit this is the nature of today's recruiting climate. As I previously stated the worst outcome is that there will be plenty of publicity about this in basketball circles.
He wasn't "not ready for college". He was not ready to be infused at that point of the season. His game is perfectly ready.
But remember… These kids practice together all off-season, and during season. There is a familiarity, comfort level and a chemistry that develops.... and it is not entirely about skill set.
What are you even talking about?
First, who do you think is primarily responsible for creating this current recruiting climate?
Second, the worst outcome is we lose one of our best players for next year and are unable to find a decent replacement because the entire staff expected him to be our starting SG next season.
But the question is.... Is diallo part of the program? He never played a game... Just playing devils advocate.
I'm a UK fan first and foremost. I like to see our guys do well in the NBA but I'm far from NBA fan. I will have a little trouble with Hami entering if no first round guarantee, actually I feel like lotto guys are really the only guys who should enter early UNTIL your max potential in college is realized. However, just like always I'll root for the guys we trot out there at BBM and enjoy the ride. All that said, as much as I love UK and our basketball heritage I would walk for millions of guaranteed cash.... These things are multifaceted and not cut and dry.
WE don't do jack. WE watch games and type on message boards. WE don't play...WE don't Coach. The kids & Cal can do whatever they want...
What point do I draw the line...? Nobody gives a &*%# where my line is drawn?
10 or more losses year after year after year and not getting into the tournament would probably be a start though. And we're not there.
I'll just suffer through another miserable eight years...hopefully.
For the record, I'm not a fan of the OAD rule & hope the NAD doesn't become a trend.
And if fans start treating our players like we are starting to do with Diallo and to some extent Briscoe and Humphries, that coaching change may come sooner rather than later.
Briscoe and Humphries actually played in games though, that is the difference. I don't consider Diallo one of "our" players. I think many people would/will feel the same way.
Not to mention his conditioning after he got here. The college game is a lot faster and more intense than high school ball.
He wants Diallo to go because he is only happy when complaining and he loves to bash Cal, so Diallo coming back would be bad for his agenda.
For the schools that actually get the "one and done" players, the recruiting climate AWF pointed out, is the climate. Take a look at Kansas, UCLA, Arizona, Duke, etc.; look around at the mock drafts and you will see numerous players from those aforementioned schools.
The days of premier players dreaming of NCAA championships and playing for a particular university as opposed to the NBA, NBA lifestyle, shoe deals, etc. are over.
A balance somewhere in the middle would be nice, but I'm assuming it's hard to recruit the ultra talented and expect them to stick around and play for free.
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It's not everywhere in college basketball because very few places can land the kids good enough to do this.
Look at the roster turnover at the places that are. Ours is still higher because Cal is the best recruiter, but the rest of those programs are starting to feel this strain too. Duke is scrambling worse than we are right now. Kansas is taking every transfer willing to move west of the Mississippi. Arizona is taking kids who won't even qualify.
Edit: Contracts and Wildcats basically beat me to it.
Of course, none of this should be surprising, but to many on here, it is.
This is my take as a fan..unless Diallo clocks minutes in a UK uniform, I don't give an ish. If that makes me a bad fan to some of you, so be it because I know better. Ill wait and see how it plays out...
And hey, if there's a big NBA card of Diallo hanging in the Craft Center with the likes of John Wall, Anthony Davis, and KAT, then yeah I may or may not roll my eyes.
This is my take as a fan..unless Diallo clocks minutes in a UK uniform, I don't give an ish. If that makes me a bad fan to some of you, so be it because I know better. Ill wait and see how it plays out...
And hey, if there's a big NBA card of Diallo hanging in the Craft Center with the likes of John Wall, Anthony Davis, and KAT, then yeah I may or may not roll my eyes.
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Gone Gone Gone. Got great coaching in practice with our great assistants and of course Cal himself. Then of course the nutritionists. Then a tremendous strength and conditioning coach. Then of course maybe school itself. Then maybe practicing day and night against the 2 best guards in the country. The best meals. Best trainers. Of course outstanding living conditions. If he leaves in 20 minutes to me thats a problem without ever playing a minute in the blue and white
Maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but the last thing I thought I read when he committed was that he would sit out the semester and be ready to go for next year. Nothing about "testing the waters" or even getting feedback from the scouts. I might be wrong, and if I am, please link the info.
I'm not going to be mad at anybody. I'm a fan. I don't have a right to be. I will be aggravated and feel as if Diallo abused the opportunity/offer to play here. I wouldn't see him as a former UK player either, so hopefully they dont list him as such in the NBA. Would Cal have gone after somebody else had he known Diallo's plan was to sit out the semester then stay in the draft (if thats what ends up happening)? We'll never know. But if Cal was banking on him coming back next year and then he goes back on his word, then I wouldn't be too happy if I were him (especially if its for anything other than a 100% guarantee to go in the 1st round).
We still have a few weeks before we 100% know what he's going to do, but I honestly don't have a good feeling about it. So hopefully we will end up getting Johnson, because we are going to be thin at the 2-3 spot if not.
I'm not going to be mad at anybody. I'm a fan. I don't have a right to be. I will be aggravated and feel as if Diallo abused the opportunity/offer to play here. I wouldn't see him as a former UK player either, so hopefully they dont list him as such in the NBA. Would Cal have gone after somebody else had he known Diallo's plan was to sit out the semester then stay in the draft (if thats what ends up happening)? We'll never know. But if Cal was banking on him coming back next year and then he goes back on his word, then I wouldn't be too happy if I were him (especially if its for anything other than a 100% guarantee to go in the 1st round).
We still have a few weeks before we 100% know what he's going to do, but I honestly don't have a good feeling about it. So hopefully we will end up getting Johnson, because we are going to be thin at the 2-3 spot if not.
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I can't imagine Cal being happy if he leaves to be a second round pick.I think Cal really thought Diallo would return because he just started recruiting Johnson and really hadn't been after anybody else at that Position.Knox doesn't seem to fit a 2 guard.Of course Cal will only be positive about Diallo to the press and say this was the plan. JMO
Agreed. Its like now the goal is just enjoying getting players to come stay a year and then say im so happy for them! But when you say what about titles? They get mad and say cant you just be happy for them? Smh must be a younger generation but after every season we are gonna be disapointed because until we luck into a situation like 2012 where great players returned, we will not win. But its ok, players first us last.
NEVER said he wasn't entering the draft. You are an idiot but I think you know this. It was always the plan to see where he stood.
I hope you don't drive.
you have no grasp of basketball. This is all over your head. the dumbness is unreal
Once again for the slow.
There were TWENTY YEARS between Rupps last NCAA championship in 58 until Halls in 78.
Then EIGHTEEN YEARS until 96
And FOURTEEN YEARS between 98 until 2012
Cal has had us in the hunt 7 out of 8 years. If you can't be happy with what he has done, nothing will do it for you.
What is funny as there will be a few who don't realize the satire in this .![[laughing]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/laugh.r191677.gif "Laughing [laughing]")
I know I shouldn't feel bad about it (I want kids to reach their dreams), but I'll be disappointed if he leaves. I guess partly because Cal didn't play him at all (even in blowouts).
But they talked about this on KSR, and I totally agree, all of this would be different if we win the 2015 National Championship. The fact we gave away that title (or even 2014 when we got to the title game) hurts. We should have won one of those and that would have calmed the "titles only" fans. It'll never be better than right now, and the fact we have only 1 title is disappointing. Once Cal is gone, we will still be good, but won't be contenders every year.
But they talked about this on KSR, and I totally agree, all of this would be different if we win the 2015 National Championship. The fact we gave away that title (or even 2014 when we got to the title game) hurts. We should have won one of those and that would have calmed the "titles only" fans. It'll never be better than right now, and the fact we have only 1 title is disappointing. Once Cal is gone, we will still be good, but won't be contenders every year.
“When the season is over, me and Coach Cal will sit down and have a talk about that.”
https://www.seccountry.com/kentucky/kentucky-hamidou-diallo-sitting-out
From 3 months ago.
yep, this is where I am. I have no attachment to this kid, so he causes no passion me in either direction, not anger, not joy. His presence here, so far at least, is a complete and total non-event.
I still haven't seen any explanation as to why this is supposed to make me mad - especially at the coach. The only way this was a negative is if we took him expecting him to be here next year and that cost us another recruit. I've seen no one say that. Net, it's nothing. All this talk about him "using Kentucky" or anything along those lines is nonsense.......Even if true, what does it matter, and what does it matter to anyone on this board? There is no practical consequence of that, it's true in theory only.....
We are very lucky Johnson might fall into our hards because if he doesn't come who is our shooting guard next season?
The Diallo situation has made one thing readily apparent (as many others have).... .there's a segment of BBN who either simply don't understand how NCAA basketball has changed or won't accept the changes they are seeing,
I hate to tell you, but the 1980s aren't coming back. And if a kid who may be able to go lock in a multi-million dollar contract is making you this upset, you probably need to find another hobby. Following UK bball is obviously bad for your health.
I hate to tell you, but the 1980s aren't coming back. And if a kid who may be able to go lock in a multi-million dollar contract is making you this upset, you probably need to find another hobby. Following UK bball is obviously bad for your health.
I'm fine with one and done.What would bother me is a kid leaving for the second round without ever playing here.
This isn't a one way street buddy.
Do not come to this program if you aren't going to contribute. It has nothing to do with a fans preference on their life. Cal says constantly, we do right by them, they do right by us. So I guess that coach speak is void now?
fine - if Johnson doesn't come and if we don't get another adequate 2 next year, then let the kvetching begin.
But that's two pretty good sized IFs......
I don't get why people seem to be taking this personally (I guess that's silly - UK hoops, everything is personal. It's not business, it's personal. heh)......
I'm not conditioned. Since day 1, I've gone by what I would tell my son to do.
If my son signed on with a school on a scholarship for any program in any department, with the understanding that he might be able to go before producing anything and the professor assented to it ahead of time (meaning my son was not reneging on an agreement)...
and then my son was offered a 7 figure contract...
I would absolutely tell him to go.
Double so if there was a chance that his performance at the school the next year might prevent him from getting the contract in the future.
Even more so if there was a small chance that he could incur a medical problem in that schooling year that would prevent him from getting the contract also.
Again, this only applies to a first round lock.
I would not advise my son to gamble on a startup when he was on scholarship (the equivalent of Diallo's situation).
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You, nor he, know where he would be drafted if he stays in. His decision will boil down to how much risk he's willing to take to get that first round contract vs how much he wants to be a potential lottery pick in a year. Cal doesn't make that decision for him, nor do fans. He does. That's part of being an adult.
