Exactly.Being unhappy with this situation doesn't mean I hate Cal and want to go back to Tubby.It's just terrible to have a talented player possibly leaving without playing a minute.There is zero benefit for UK.People say practice helped Monk and Fox but those guys were already great.Hurts our chance for a championship.
Diallo doesn't need guarantee of first round pick to remain in draft
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Doesn't bother me a bit....I find it more odd that people are upset.
I don't have a dime in it...
Had he played this season instead of sitting on the bench just to protect his draft stock I wouldnt mind as much.
Some kids just want the NBA so bad no matter what. Maybe that's his way. I don't know.
If he wants it that bad, not much will change his mind unless every one he talks to tells him he will not be drafted at all. But he will likely get drafted in the 2nd round. Someone will take a chance on him likely. It's his life and choice.
Not really gonna worry about it. Either way, I think UK will be fine. No use to fret over it anymore. Seems all but assured he's gone. Get Johnson and Bamba and let's toss it up.
If he wants it that bad, not much will change his mind unless every one he talks to tells him he will not be drafted at all. But he will likely get drafted in the 2nd round. Someone will take a chance on him likely. It's his life and choice.
Not really gonna worry about it. Either way, I think UK will be fine. No use to fret over it anymore. Seems all but assured he's gone. Get Johnson and Bamba and let's toss it up.
What is funny as there will be a few who don't realize the satire in this .![[laughing]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/laugh.r191677.gif "Laughing [laughing]")
I almost did but glad I waited a second before responding..
I didnt want him to play this season.
I was afraid he would show too much potential and leave.
I guess I was wrong.... he showed nothing and may still leave, in the 2nd round no less...?
I just hope he comes back.
Man I can't figure out if some of these guys are UK fans or NBA fans. Just posting here waiting to see who their team will get. Becasue they don't seem to care one damn bit about our roster and Kentuckys position.
If Diallo leaves UK for the second round........
I'll just reserve the rest until it happens.
I won't defend the decision.
I'll call it a dumb decision out loud if he leaves for anything short of a 100% lock first round guarantee.
I'll openly express disappointment and I won't be particularly attached to the kid.
I just won't fault Cal for it, because
a. everybody would've taken Diallo mid season
and
b. you know Cal's not encouraging him to leave for the second round
I agree with ya. But I'll be upset that Cal banked on this and it cost us on the recruiting trail. Cal needs to be more careful with our roster. So I do blame him somewhat. He's also set a culture where, well, even a none and done is accepted. Not by me. Even though I know that doesn't count for much.
Not looking like it Brother.
He goes 2nd round, hope enjoys D league for a long while.
Still dont fault Cal for taking the chance as @Jkwo said above.
And btw, if anyone notices, we've already been conditioned. It's now OK If he leaves for the first round.
Ummm, no. That's not ok. The agreeement was to sit out and play this year. So if that happens Diallo and his family are flat liars and Cal needs to be more careful with his approach.
Ummm, no. That's not ok. The agreeement was to sit out and play this year. So if that happens Diallo and his family are flat liars and Cal needs to be more careful with his approach.
Cant say it cost us on the recruiting trail.
Weak year for guards. Our other two top targets had already committed.
Have to trust Cal in that it didnt affect us...even if wrong, he deserves the benefit of the doubt in recruiting.
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Definitely a weaker class. Surely Cal could have put time in somewhere had he though this might be possible though. I don't know .......
I don't blame Cal for taking Diallo, I do blame him for some of the culture though. None and done? Where else would that happen?
You are just guessing now..
No way Cal tells kid with a solid 1st round guarantee he has to stay.
2nd round...? I am on board with you.
Another reason why I have been screaming we need him to be a major priority.
He wants to go in RD2 and play in the D League instead of playing at UK and being a top 5 pick in 18. LMAO Stupid. Again. He's coming back
Exactly.
Everything we heard was Cal agreed on the condition that he test the waters, find out what he needs to work on, and come back. That was what both parties seemed to agree to. So far, that's what is playing out.
If Diallo leaves to be a first rounder, it's breaking that agreement, but no one would fault him for taking the money.
If he leaves to be a second rounder, that's an awful decision, but it's still his decision to make. Cal can't make him stay. Cal has already done all he can to "protect" our interests here, and it was a risk easily worth taking because there's no downside. He didn't cost us anyone, he helped in practice, and he made us more attractive for Quade and Bamba.
But that doesn't matter, because it'll be an excuse to whine about the second best coach in program history.
Posters first!
Collateral damage of the OAD culture...
True OAD's have made us great.
Wannabe OADs and 2ADs have hurt us.
The agreement was, as far as I was aware, that Diallo would sit for the year, gain experience, and come back ready to play. That's what was sold. I never heard the first statement about him leaving if he was a first round pick. I figured he'd just play here and go higher next season.
So do we just keep taking reclassified top 10 kids mid season, have them tell us they are going to come back (can find the article where Diallo says he will be back), not play a minute, and then just have them declare for the draft?
At what point do you draw the line?
Bagley, negating injury, is pretty much a sure fire #1 pick in the NBA draft. Do we give him a scholarship, tell him he doesn't have to play in games because Cal doesn't want to get the kid possibly injured and hurt his future earnings, he only practices, then leaves? At this point, this isn't out of the realm of possibility. Far fetched? Sure, but anything is possible at this point.
Took the 13th most shots on the team. Are you serious? What?!
That is what you figured, I think most of us figured that as well... (although a couple called this as soon as it happened @BigBlueFanGA being one).
But knowing Cal, he wont be pissed at a 1st round guarantee, he most likely knew it wasnt coming and it seems as though it isnt. So Cal was absolutley right in doing this.
No way Cal thought kid would roll out without a 1st round guarantee...
I guess I just don't see the need for the wailing and gnashing of teeth until it happens. So much is being said, some of which is going to look really bad on the poster, if he comes back. I guess we are in the age of "I have to tell everyone my opinion immediately, before I know any facts".
Well Cal needs to start drinking some ensure 3 a day and rest. Because he's been losing guys for years who weren't guaranteed first round. These families play him.
If he does stay even if he's gonna be 2nd round, I'm assuming that's because of financial issues, or he just really doesn't want to be in school. If it's the latter, then Cal would need to adjust his recruiting to weed out such guys, no matter how talented they are. My guess is he didn't think that would be the case with Diallo, but maybe he felt the risk was worth it. I don't know. If it happens, it happens. I've only recently starting getting my hopes up about next season (assuming Diallo was staying and we got Bamba). So, maybe I just revert back to my previous belief that next year would be an actual rebuilding year and we have enough guys come back to really have a great team in '19.
What kind of "feedback" is he going to receive from the NBA teams that he hasn't already been told at this point?
I realize the NBA Combine will give him one last opportunity to compete against other 2 Guards, but what can he do in 3 days that will convince him he can get a SECOND NBA contract? That's what these kids don't take into consideration.
If he's really wanting to turn pro, why not hire an agent now?
If Cal knows that he is gone, why doesn't he encourage Hami to announce he won't be back?
Why would Cal allow Hami to keep UK from getting Knox or Johnson by stringing everyone along?
IMHO, Hami is more likely than not returning to UK. The Combine will allow him to showcase his measurements and athleticism so the scouts will follow him closer next season.
I realize the NBA Combine will give him one last opportunity to compete against other 2 Guards, but what can he do in 3 days that will convince him he can get a SECOND NBA contract? That's what these kids don't take into consideration.
If he's really wanting to turn pro, why not hire an agent now?
If Cal knows that he is gone, why doesn't he encourage Hami to announce he won't be back?
Why would Cal allow Hami to keep UK from getting Knox or Johnson by stringing everyone along?
IMHO, Hami is more likely than not returning to UK. The Combine will allow him to showcase his measurements and athleticism so the scouts will follow him closer next season.
He always said he would talk to Cal about it when the season was over.
I always took that as he would leave if it looked promising enough.
I think it's crazy on his part to leave if he's a second rounder. Because if he's a second rounder it's for two reasons...lack of a jumper and lack of a resume in real game situations.
It would be a clear case of someone being in a position to better himself by proving himself in a college setting.
One other thing. Diallo can't really say he needs a first round guarantee right now if he wants to hold the attention of all the NBA teams. He has to at least appear to be wide open to staying in the draft, or teams will be less likely to commit time and resources to working him out.
That may or may not be what is happening, but Diallo has shown that if nothing else, he is savvy with his words.
I have no info on this one, but I am confused as to what may have changed. Several months ago he was looking forward to next season and playing at uk. There wasn't the suggestion that he was anxious to leave as a possible second-rounder.
Perhaps this is just due-diligence, but if he does bolt-- odd change of direction.
Perhaps this is just due-diligence, but if he does bolt-- odd change of direction.
If he was bent on staying in regardless, I would have to think that Cal would want him to come out with it, so we could assure Knox and/or Johnson that the door is open for PT here.
Can't see Cal allowing Hami to "HAMSTRING" him.
And some fans rightfully asked the question "If he was so unready for college then how ready can he be for the NBA?" - regardless of future potential.
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